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Human-like Broodwar AIs, Revamped - Page 2

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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
February 22 2018 12:34 GMT
#21
This is so cool. Keep up the work!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
February 22 2018 16:08 GMT
#22
Woah, very cool ! Nice work man, excited to see how good the improved Human like AI is!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 22 2018 19:26 GMT
#23
On February 18 2018 17:04 Jealous wrote:
What would be amazing is, I think, if someone could make bots just analyze progamer reps and mimic their opening BO exactly - same placements, same everything - and you can practice against it as the other progamer in the replay, to get your own timings down. This would of course work only and best before the first engagement, but I think having some existing AI take over at that point would make it the best of both worlds.


Really nice idea. Could be used for many "generic" macro or timing oriented builds. Probably the only thing it would struggle with would be harass oriented openers that require significant adjustment from the CPU such as 1 gate exp PvZ .
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
February 25 2018 22:10 GMT
#24
On February 22 2018 17:43 Moataz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2018 12:50 Quatari wrote:
The https://goo.gl/r1LiUt link in the OP and in the YouTube video doesn't work for me - I'm guessing Google Drive thinks it contains malware, or their malware scanner doesn't support the latest version of the archive format you're using. Here's the page I see:

"Google Drive

We're sorry. You can't access this item because it is in violation of our Terms of Service.

Find out more about this topic at the Google Drive Help Center."

It doesn't bother me because I already downloaded the file via the other links - just thought I'd let you know. Thanks for doing all this - it's great!

Google & Mediafire are deceiving companies (uploader doesn't know anything until logged off from their sites), Its actually violation of the uploader rights to be informed of what he did wrong, thanks for letting me know.
+
I posted a comment on the old video that direct confused people (all of them) to the new one, but seems the uploader hated & deleted my comment, again I noted that only by chance after I logged of Youtube (deceiving for sure).

So I bumped the topic in response, sorry, and thanks to the old video uploader for giving me a reason to bump the topic
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-03 06:33:52
March 03 2018 06:33 GMT
#25
On February 22 2018 21:34 A.Alm wrote:
This is so cool. Keep up the work!

I'm just surprised that you say that, then the insulting from you and razorsuke in another topic ?
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
March 03 2018 09:55 GMT
#26
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
March 08 2018 01:01 GMT
#27
up
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
March 13 2018 08:18 GMT
#28
up again.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
March 28 2018 17:26 GMT
#29
another up.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
March 28 2018 19:53 GMT
#30
On February 18 2018 17:04 Jealous wrote:
What would be amazing is, I think, if someone could make bots just analyze progamer reps and mimic their opening BO exactly - same placements, same everything - and you can practice against it as the other progamer in the replay, to get your own timings down. This would of course work only and best before the first engagement, but I think having some existing AI take over at that point would make it the best of both worlds.

They have had bots online playing previously in the past
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
March 29 2018 16:44 GMT
#31
On March 29 2018 04:53 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2018 17:04 Jealous wrote:
What would be amazing is, I think, if someone could make bots just analyze progamer reps and mimic their opening BO exactly - same placements, same everything - and you can practice against it as the other progamer in the replay, to get your own timings down. This would of course work only and best before the first engagement, but I think having some existing AI take over at that point would make it the best of both worlds.

They have had bots online playing previously in the past

Bots replicating progamer build orders and placements from replays?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
March 29 2018 19:08 GMT
#32
On March 30 2018 01:44 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 04:53 GGzerG wrote:
On February 18 2018 17:04 Jealous wrote:
What would be amazing is, I think, if someone could make bots just analyze progamer reps and mimic their opening BO exactly - same placements, same everything - and you can practice against it as the other progamer in the replay, to get your own timings down. This would of course work only and best before the first engagement, but I think having some existing AI take over at that point would make it the best of both worlds.

They have had bots online playing previously in the past

Bots replicating progamer build orders and placements from replays?


I don't think BWAPI AI developers will spend their life hard coding infinite probabilities, Blizzard could make AI compete with top progamers without cheating (having access to BW memory), but I don't think will do it for you (no profit for them), and I don't see the difference between learning from replays or from look & learn on real game, the major problem comes from Decision Making.

Until then, I hope you found something interesting in BWAPI AIs from this video that you didn't know before.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
March 29 2018 19:57 GMT
#33
On March 30 2018 04:08 Moataz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2018 01:44 Jealous wrote:
On March 29 2018 04:53 GGzerG wrote:
On February 18 2018 17:04 Jealous wrote:
What would be amazing is, I think, if someone could make bots just analyze progamer reps and mimic their opening BO exactly - same placements, same everything - and you can practice against it as the other progamer in the replay, to get your own timings down. This would of course work only and best before the first engagement, but I think having some existing AI take over at that point would make it the best of both worlds.

They have had bots online playing previously in the past

Bots replicating progamer build orders and placements from replays?


I don't think BWAPI AI developers will spend their life hard coding infinite probabilities, Blizzard could make AI compete with top progamers without cheating (having access to BW memory), but I don't think will do it for you (no profit for them), and I don't see the difference between learning from replays or from look & learn on real game, the major problem comes from Decision Making.

Until then, I hope you found something interesting in BWAPI AIs from this video that you didn't know before.


Did you know that Command Centers give you 10 supply?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-03 02:15:42
April 02 2018 08:41 GMT
#34
A new map released that could allow easy win vs UDAI with some coaching.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
April 07 2018 17:16 GMT
#35
Question: If I buy SC:R will I be able to play against BWAPI AIs (that running on v1.16.1) in a multiplayer game ?
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
krasi0
Profile Joined March 2014
Germany21 Posts
May 16 2018 20:32 GMT
#36
Shameless plug: I've implemented a launcher for my bot (a single .exe file) that downloads and sets everything up and runs the latest version of my bot automatically. The only prior requirements are Windows 7+ and Starcraft 1.16.1.
More instructions here goo.gl
Enjoy!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
May 16 2018 21:49 GMT
#37
The highest ELO BWAPI AI maker, and http://www.openbw.com/replay-viewer/ owner ?
Thanks for your efforts man, the lazy Blizzard should hire you to get things done fast.

But it looks to me a cumbersome work, with no great benefit.
And why do I need to "create a network UDP game" instead of Local PC, most people will find Local PC easier to setup.
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
May 16 2018 22:17 GMT
#38
On May 17 2018 06:49 Moataz wrote:
The highest ELO BWAPI AI maker, and http://www.openbw.com/replay-viewer/ owner ?
Thanks for your efforts man, the lazy Blizzard should hire you to get things done fast.

But it looks to me a cumbersome work, with no great benefit.
And why do I need to "create a network UDP game" instead of Local PC, most people will find Local PC easier to setup.

I'm going to guess it's because the bots don't function like a Computer slot but as a human slot. Single Player mode does not allow for more than one human slot, so UDP is necessary. You should think of playing the bot not as playing a computer but as playing another player.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Moataz
Profile Joined January 2018
Egypt267 Posts
May 16 2018 22:43 GMT
#39
On May 17 2018 07:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2018 06:49 Moataz wrote:
The highest ELO BWAPI AI maker, and http://www.openbw.com/replay-viewer/ owner ?
Thanks for your efforts man, the lazy Blizzard should hire you to get things done fast.

But it looks to me a cumbersome work, with no great benefit.
And why do I need to "create a network UDP game" instead of Local PC, most people will find Local PC easier to setup.

I'm going to guess it's because the bots don't function like a Computer slot but as a human slot. Single Player mode does not allow for more than one human slot, so UDP is necessary. You should think of playing the bot not as playing a computer but as playing another player.

UDP is not needed most of the time, you can run multiplayer games using "Local PC" connection, without the need for other PC or virtual machine.

Are you missing something, or its me ?
"All who believe in Allah and the last day, either say good or be silent." Muhammad
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10154 Posts
May 16 2018 23:49 GMT
#40
On May 17 2018 07:43 Moataz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2018 07:17 Jealous wrote:
On May 17 2018 06:49 Moataz wrote:
The highest ELO BWAPI AI maker, and http://www.openbw.com/replay-viewer/ owner ?
Thanks for your efforts man, the lazy Blizzard should hire you to get things done fast.

But it looks to me a cumbersome work, with no great benefit.
And why do I need to "create a network UDP game" instead of Local PC, most people will find Local PC easier to setup.

I'm going to guess it's because the bots don't function like a Computer slot but as a human slot. Single Player mode does not allow for more than one human slot, so UDP is necessary. You should think of playing the bot not as playing a computer but as playing another player.

UDP is not needed most of the time, you can run multiplayer games using "Local PC" connection, without the need for other PC or virtual machine.

Are you missing something, or its me ?

You're not missing something, you're making something up. "Local PC" connection is not an option in 1.16 or RM. I assumed you meant "Single Player" but apparently that was not the correct assumption. What exactly do you mean by "Local PC?"
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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