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On October 25 2017 07:02 BongChambers wrote: This is sad to hear but not unexpected at this point. Blizzard has become a shell of its former self that curb stomped the best rts game ever created, ruined WoW and failed miserably with D3. Not to mention their pathetic attempt to cash in on the moba series with Hots, the only reason OW is successful is the character fan art drives its players. From shutting down private servers to making every game monetized, Blizzard is pure garbage at this point. Be sure to lookout for WC4 being made in the backgrounds 100% for the easy cash grab.
To be fair, Hots is a fantastic moba. Don't care about the initial critics, the game massively improve since.
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On October 25 2017 06:17 Eywa- wrote: In fact, all of the major events that have come up in the past few months are a direct result of Blizzard's intervention, creating Starcraft: Remastered and the hype surrounding that.
Like ATB 2
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On October 25 2017 10:45 ortseam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:17 Eywa- wrote: In fact, all of the major events that have come up in the past few months are a direct result of Blizzard's intervention, creating Starcraft: Remastered and the hype surrounding that.
Like ATB 2  that made me so mad. Not sure what he's talking about, guessing he means the foreign community tourneys since KR ones have been doing fine and improving before rm announcement.
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Well Blizzard hasn't intervened with the foreign scene for years and this didn't change with SC:R (which is imo a good thing), obviously the release created interest but still not a direct involvement.
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On October 25 2017 06:09 JungleTerrain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 02:52 hiro protagonist wrote: In the short term, this sucks for those who prefer 1.16.1
In the long term, maybe we can put more pressure on blizzard to improve SC:RM
In the very long term, StarCraft BW will become public domain in another 66 years. So after that we won't have to worry about the legal stuff anymore LOL wtf most of us will be dead by that time Gotta leave something for our grandchildren! BW ForevA!
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OpenBW:
Since several people have mentioned OpenBW in this context:
The project is still very much alive. In its current state it is playable by bots. That is, the user interface for human players is missing but the complete game can be played by issuing commands programatically.
tscmoo took the time to implement the BWAPI 4.2 such that a standard interface is available. All code is published on github and can be downloaded / modified by anyone. I will update the OpenBW thread with the latest developments soon. In the meantime, you can see a showcase of a simple example bot playing against itself using OpenBW on Linux here.
we have put on hold only the BW HD part when SC:R was announced.
Personal Opinion:
this is my personal opinion and not not related in any way to OpenBW: we must take matters into our own hands and cannot rely on a company like Blizzard to do what's best for the community. They will always do what they think is best for the shareholder. And more often than not they will have a rather short-term perspective when doing so.
Personally, I bought SC:R asap and have played 1 (!) multi-player game so far, where I ended up apologizing to my opponent because the game was utterly unplayable. Even though it only cost me a few dollars, Blizzard sold me a product that does not work. In other industries that would be considered fraud. And no, I don't want to have to patch anything and hope it will work at some point in the future. Would anyone buy a car and just take home the wheels plus a promise that the engine will be delivered with the next patch?
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man, I wish blizz would just hire mca and wlauncher guy. that's a pipe dream right? they could make things so much better if they had official support..
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To be fair, Brain Server isn't even needed anymore.
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On October 25 2017 14:05 oDieN[Siege] wrote: To be fair, Brain Server isn't even needed anymore.
What's the reasoning behind that? A cryptic comment like that with no explanation or reasoning is pretty useless.
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well... iccup crashes my game after seconds...
mca64Launcher and iCCup launcher. iccup antihack crashes the computer if it is in wlauncher
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On October 25 2017 14:14 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 14:05 oDieN[Siege] wrote: To be fair, Brain Server isn't even needed anymore. What's the reasoning behind that? A cryptic comment like that with no explanation or reasoning is pretty useless. Same guy who said this earlier in the thread:
On October 25 2017 07:34 oDieN[Siege] wrote: It's about time! RIP
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This is getting better and better!
HAHA, so much salt and hate!
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Blizzard sucks.
tbf moving to iccup is not the best idea because the admins don't give a shit about bw anymore, it's a dota website. if you want to play 1.16 properly, go to shieldbattery.
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On October 25 2017 06:16 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote: So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter. This. This thread is just pointless hating until some legitimate source of information comes out. The op should even probably be edited.
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On October 25 2017 15:31 jimminy_kriket wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:16 TheNewEra wrote:On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote: So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter. This. This thread is just pointless hating until some legitimate source of information comes out. The op should even probably be edited. there might be an archive or image of the announcement by the administrator somewhere;; i can't find anything... ask ygosu maybe. i don't know. sorry..
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 25 2017 12:49 imp42 wrote:OpenBW:Since several people have mentioned OpenBW in this context: The project is still very much alive. In its current state it is playable by bots. That is, the user interface for human players is missing but the complete game can be played by issuing commands programatically. tscmoo took the time to implement the BWAPI 4.2 such that a standard interface is available. All code is published on github and can be downloaded / modified by anyone. I will update the OpenBW thread with the latest developments soon. In the meantime, you can see a showcase of a simple example bot playing against itself using OpenBW on Linux here. we have put on hold only the BW HD part when SC:R was announced. Personal Opinion:this is my personal opinion and not not related in any way to OpenBW: we must take matters into our own hands and cannot rely on a company like Blizzard to do what's best for the community. They will always do what they think is best for the shareholder. And more often than not they will have a rather short-term perspective when doing so. Personally, I bought SC:R asap and have played 1 (!) multi-player game so far, where I ended up apologizing to my opponent because the game was utterly unplayable. Even though it only cost me a few dollars, Blizzard sold me a product that does not work. In other industries that would be considered fraud. And no, I don't want to have to patch anything and hope it will work at some point in the future. Would anyone buy a car and just take home the wheels plus a promise that the engine will be delivered with the next patch?
What you're doing with OpenBW is fantastic and I wholeheartedly agree with you.
I believe that we will be able play and enjoy BW to its fullest for many years to come but only if we release ourselves from Blizzard's influence. Until then we will always be looking over our shoulders, hoping they don't decide to fuck us over in an irreparable way.
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On October 25 2017 12:49 imp42 wrote:OpenBW:Since several people have mentioned OpenBW in this context: The project is still very much alive. In its current state it is playable by bots. That is, the user interface for human players is missing but the complete game can be played by issuing commands programatically. tscmoo took the time to implement the BWAPI 4.2 such that a standard interface is available. All code is published on github and can be downloaded / modified by anyone. I will update the OpenBW thread with the latest developments soon. In the meantime, you can see a showcase of a simple example bot playing against itself using OpenBW on Linux here. we have put on hold only the BW HD part when SC:R was announced. Personal Opinion:this is my personal opinion and not not related in any way to OpenBW: we must take matters into our own hands and cannot rely on a company like Blizzard to do what's best for the community. They will always do what they think is best for the shareholder. And more often than not they will have a rather short-term perspective when doing so. Personally, I bought SC:R asap and have played 1 (!) multi-player game so far, where I ended up apologizing to my opponent because the game was utterly unplayable. Even though it only cost me a few dollars, Blizzard sold me a product that does not work. In other industries that would be considered fraud. And no, I don't want to have to patch anything and hope it will work at some point in the future. Would anyone buy a car and just take home the wheels plus a promise that the engine will be delivered with the next patch?
Loving the passion!
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Sad. I like remastered but this is still a giant douche move from Blizzard.
On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote: So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. The koreatimes article was posted over a year ago and nobody had cared about Brain, but now that SC:R came out they suddenly want to take it down. I have a hard time believing Blizzard didn't at least have some hand in that.
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until i can contact the root admin, please hold with a logical:
brain just added a clan channel system two weeks ago brain just added a color chat option one week ago brain just overhauled the 2v2 and 3v3 ladder three days ago
why would it close suddenly?
"oh we did all this now goodbye~" NO NO
ㄷㄷ...
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