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Germany3128 Posts
On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote:
So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise.
Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter.
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On October 25 2017 05:58 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
private servers are not a problem, the problem is public servers having never been good enough
lets be serious, the amount of money blizzard made off of every single game is far above high enough, and if people want to play on private servers, if there are laws that actually help blizzard attack that, well I say these laws should be changed because they are just bad for gaming and for gamers
i feel like I just hate blizzard now. It feels like not only they dont care, but they are actively damaging things trying to control what people play and how. They damage chat, they damage servers, ergonomy, intrude with adware, it looks like they want you to buy smtg and then stop playing that cause its not so good and instead buy and play their newest crap. That may be just what's going on.
Well fuck blizzard. If you work at blizzard, leave this shitty company. The last time I bought smtg from this shitty company was Diablo 3 at release, and then I didn't for years. And now I feel even worse about it. Fuck blizzard, screw its rotten leadership and business making. You suck.
If we're being serious, you'd be hard pressed to find a company that isn't driving their game into the dirt in order to make a quick profit.
Bungie has been eager to drag destiny through the dirt
Call of Duty gets progressively worse
Where is command & conquer?
I mean, do we even need to mention EA?
Credit given where credit is due, Blizzard is one of the least terrible companies in video games (though that isn't saying much). In fact, all of the major events that have come up in the past few months are a direct result of Blizzard's intervention, creating Starcraft: Remastered and the hype surrounding that.
I love shitting on Blizzard as much as the next guy, but to be honest, if I was the owner operator of Blizzard entertainment, I would want to get rid of Starcraft: Brood War and it's community because all we do here is constantly shit on Blizzard and their other more successful (financially) titles. Blizzard is actually doing far more for Brood War than anyone expected and yeah, it's unfortunate that it has to come with the legal side effects.
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On October 25 2017 02:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
In the short term, this sucks for those who prefer 1.16.1
In the long term, maybe we can put more pressure on blizzard to improve SC:RM
It`s clearly not the case, they don`t care after you already bought the game.
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On October 25 2017 06:18 noname_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 02:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
In the short term, this sucks for those who prefer 1.16.1
In the long term, maybe we can put more pressure on blizzard to improve SC:RM It`s clearly not the case, they don`t care after you already bought the game.
They will care if they wan't more people to buy the game.
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On October 25 2017 06:17 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 05:58 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
private servers are not a problem, the problem is public servers having never been good enough
lets be serious, the amount of money blizzard made off of every single game is far above high enough, and if people want to play on private servers, if there are laws that actually help blizzard attack that, well I say these laws should be changed because they are just bad for gaming and for gamers
i feel like I just hate blizzard now. It feels like not only they dont care, but they are actively damaging things trying to control what people play and how. They damage chat, they damage servers, ergonomy, intrude with adware, it looks like they want you to buy smtg and then stop playing that cause its not so good and instead buy and play their newest crap. That may be just what's going on.
Well fuck blizzard. If you work at blizzard, leave this shitty company. The last time I bought smtg from this shitty company was Diablo 3 at release, and then I didn't for years. And now I feel even worse about it. Fuck blizzard, screw its rotten leadership and business making. You suck. If we're being serious, you'd be hard pressed to find a company that isn't driving their game into the dirt in order to make a quick profit. Bungie has been eager to drag destiny through the dirt Call of Duty gets progressively worse Where is command & conquer? I mean, do we even need to mention EA? Credit given where credit is due, Blizzard is one of the least terrible companies in video games (though that isn't saying much).
sure there are a bunch of other shitty companies, I dont care about them cause I dont think their past games are so good or whatever I just dont play them
there are also plenty of better companies, I dont even want to name some
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On October 25 2017 05:58 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
it looks like they want you to buy smtg and then stop playing that cause its not so good and instead buy and play their newest crap. That may be just what's going on.
that one is a good theory, why buy one thing and play it forever when you can get bored of it and buy another and another
On October 25 2017 06:01 duke91 wrote:
Did you guys seriously trust Blizzard for a moment, even though they basically forced the Korean scene to switch so they can make more profits?
The only way BW can survive is through the community itself. Can't trust blizzard ever
Exactly that moment was when i called Lizzard GG no re, what they did then was unforgivable.
OpenBW as a project looks more promising than scr is at the moment.
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On October 25 2017 06:16 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote:
So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter.
wtf does circlejerking mean to you? sure, let's see confirmation
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On October 25 2017 00:35 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2017 22:09 Endymion wrote:
wonderful news... "dude don't worry about 1.16.1, blizzard will just leave the servers alone!!!" iccup is next ICCUp is stationed in Russia with special tactics to defense provided by big President Vladimir. No american aggressor will be able to take it down, have faith in ICCup (;
My guess is that they will leave servers outside Korea alone. Apparently blizzard gets about 25 cents per hour for playing starcraft in pc bangs. Shutting down Korean private server is most likely to maximize that.
edit : 3 cents >25 cents
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Germany3128 Posts
On October 25 2017 06:27 ProMeTheus112 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:16 TheNewEra wrote:On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote:
So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter. wtf does circlejerking mean to you? sure, let's see confirmation
You're right. Maybe circlejerking wasn't the best expression. The point still stands though 
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On October 25 2017 06:17 Eywa- wrote:I love shitting on Blizzard as much as the next guy, but to be honest, if I was the owner operator of Blizzard entertainment, I would want to get rid of Starcraft: Brood War and it's community because all we do here is constantly shit on Blizzard and their other more successful (financially) titles. Blizzard is actually doing far more for Brood War than anyone expected and yeah, it's unfortunate that it has to come with the legal side effects.
Well you know what if you are like that too thats too bad. Blizzard has done a lot of bad for Brood War, and a half assed good (half good, half big damage) that still got me and others to stop playing. I am AGAINST blizzard having any control of private servers. Legal side effects? I don't care if it's legal or illegal, I care if it's good for the gamers or not. One thing is legal there illegal elsewhere. If a law sucks, a law can change. You don't have to use a law that lets you do smtg like that. Only if you are playing AGAINST the players, which we know blizzard is. They have been for a long time now.
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On October 25 2017 06:32 TheNewEra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 06:27 ProMeTheus112 wrote:On October 25 2017 06:16 TheNewEra wrote:On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote:
So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise. Everyone seems to skip your comment in favour of circlejerking because it's so easy to hate Blizz, but I have the same question as you. I really want to know what's going on. It doesn't help that this thread was posted by fish radio and if I have to choose between believing him or random korean netizens I will always choose the latter. wtf does circlejerking mean to you? sure, let's see confirmation You're right. Maybe circlejerking wasn't the best expression. The point still stands though
yeah yours and the other points sure let's see confirmation yes I'm not skipping your posts yo
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I wouldn't be as annoyed with developments like this if the RM version of the game didn't have so many absurd issues. The following is somewhat off-topic but I think relevant in that it demonstrates that developers' seeming complete lack of knowledge regarding what the playerbase actually cares about:
Whispering is still broken. Often can't /r either. Sometimes if I can't whisper a friend by using /w, when they are obviously online and I'm playing with them. Frequently, they won't even show up on my friend list in game, despite the fact that I'm talking to them in a channel. If I minimize and use the app to message them, it crashes BW for BOTH of us.
Display of game records seem to be broken. I can't see a record for anyone on my friend list; it displays 0-0-0 for all of them. I also cannot view profiles for many people on my friend list, but can for strangers. I don't know if this is intended or not.
Adding people to friend list is miserable. There doesn't seem to be any way to do so outside of finding out their NAME#12345 ID, and that often entails asking them to find it and tell you. Typing /f add doesn't do anything. This has been a big pain in the ass in trying to add new friends, since a lot of people don't know how to find their ID or don't speak English well enough for me to explain it. This has led to the position where having played some GGs, I and another player cannot manage to actually friend add one another. If you're on the same realm, playing in the same game, you should be able to type /f add ACCOUNT and that should be it.
Blizz needs to fix these social-aspect issues of the game. Right now, between chat bugs and what I assume is an attempted merger of the Blizz app and the standard b.net friend list, the social portion of BW has been pretty damaged.
There are many other minor bugs right now, but the chat bugs are to me the biggest problem right now. But so many of the issues seem to scream that the programmers don't actually play the game. Like one minor thing--how can you program in a follow button for friends, but then if they join a private game with a password not have the option to press follow and enter the password? Right now, if a friend hosts a private game, and I click the follow button, it just says the game cannot be joined. So I have to go to the public game list--which lists private games publicly--and find the game and enter the PW. Anyone who plays a decent amount of BW knows that tons of games are hosted privately for all sorts of purposes. This issue would have been naturally taken into consideration upon the decision to add a follow button by anyone who regularly plays BW. There are many other issues of this nature; minor, but telling.
As I type this, I'm trying to find a game to play on USW. I can't see any games in the game list. This is a recurring issue. I usually have to go through the hassle of completely logging out of bnet and then back in for the list to show up again. That isn't currently working. I guess I'll just have to wait until the game decides to work again.
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If the leadership of blizzard wants to do away with quality chat & interfaces in their games to control how players play and make it difficult to criticize them, they might put their staff in a position where they are not working on the issue properly. It's possible they do not want their future games to have proper chats, rather interfaces that tell you how to play what games and limit players interactions. And so they might try to erase the past superior features. This is a pattern we have seen since SC2 came out.
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On October 25 2017 02:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
In the short term, this sucks for those who prefer 1.16.1
In the long term, maybe we can put more pressure on blizzard to improve SC:RM
In the very long term, StarCraft BW will become public domain in another 66 years. So after that we won't have to worry about the legal stuff anymore
If anyone wants to play some 1.16.1 PM me on here in 2083 then i guess.
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On October 25 2017 06:53 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2017 02:52 hiro protagonist wrote:
In the short term, this sucks for those who prefer 1.16.1
In the long term, maybe we can put more pressure on blizzard to improve SC:RM
In the very long term, StarCraft BW will become public domain in another 66 years. So after that we won't have to worry about the legal stuff anymore If anyone wants to play some 1.16.1 PM me on here in 2083 then i guess.
Likely dead then sadly, unless we solve aging by then 
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This is sad to hear but not unexpected at this point. Blizzard has become a shell of its former self that curb stomped the best rts game ever created, ruined WoW and failed miserably with D3. Not to mention their pathetic attempt to cash in on the moba series with Hots, the only reason OW is successful is the character fan art drives its players. From shutting down private servers to making every game monetized, Blizzard is pure garbage at this point. Be sure to lookout for WC4 being made in the backgrounds 100% for the easy cash grab.
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Apparently the reason brain server was closed was that it was a private, but free server, which is illegal in korea. It was shut down by/on the advice of the korean government.
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If iCCup wants assistance I will join. I do not request a salary, I can volunteer. I can translate the website, server, and commands to Korean.
I would like to include the Hangul fix patch to the iCCup and mca64Launcher
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On October 25 2017 01:28 PorkSoda wrote:I saw this posted on the Blizzard forum Show nested quote +Free server (private server) is illegal in Korea.
It is not Blizzard's choice.
In Korea, there are also people who were imprisoned by operating a free server (private server).
If you do not know big problems and laws in Korean society, this discussion is meaningless.
Three government agencies in Korea cooperated to close the brain server.
(Game Rating and Administration Committee, Korea Communications Commission, Cyber Police Agency)
This is an effort to solve problems in Korean society.
This seems like the most important piece of argument in Blizzard's favour. Thanks for posting.
Blizzard claims to just be cooperating with a legal initiative that wasn't started by them. This may be false, but it may also be true. Needs further investigation in my opinion. It isn't right to judge Blizzard for this incident in lieu of further information.
Edit: Also this:
Just reposting this in case too many people missed it on the previous page.
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