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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 25 2017 11:42 GMT
#101
I'm still waiting for Blizz to fix all the bugs in 1.20 before buying SCR.
It's so frustrating that basic features such as friends list, messaging, mouse, etc. still don't work. Been like that since 1.18 released in April...
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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 12:25:03
October 25 2017 11:55 GMT
#102
On October 25 2017 10:47 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 10:45 ortseam wrote:
On October 25 2017 06:17 Eywa- wrote:
In fact, all of the major events that have come up in the past few months are a direct result of Blizzard's intervention, creating Starcraft: Remastered and the hype surrounding that.

Like ATB 2

that made me so mad. Not sure what he's talking about, guessing he means the foreign community tourneys since KR ones have been doing fine and improving before rm announcement.

Well, based on a quick survey of the TL threads, ASL4 has generated significantly more traffic here than ASL3, and while some of that can be attributed to the prize pool, a lot of it is due to people coming back to the game.

Yes, ASL already existed and the Korean Scene seemed to be coming back, but the interest level in Brood War has risen since the release of remastered. A lot of people who are complaining about Remastered (not all) weren't here to complain about Brood War as they had stopped playing / stopped regularly tuning in.

I understand the frustration and I share some of the frustration, but Blizzard wants to be in on eSports, this is their biggest opportunity (with the Korean scene) to be in on eSports. They are going to patch their servers so that Koreans can play without issues. I've already seen a whole bunch of improvements from when I first started on remastered till now.
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4460 Posts
October 25 2017 12:32 GMT
#103
On October 25 2017 18:40 fish_radio wrote:
until i can contact the root admin, please hold with a logical:

brain just added a clan channel system two weeks ago
brain just added a color chat option one week ago
brain just overhauled the 2v2 and 3v3 ladder three days ago

why would it close suddenly?

"oh we did all this now goodbye~" NO NO

ㄷㄷ...

It's pretty clear what it's about.
Blizz gets more $$ from the pc bang operators when people play remastered compared to when they play 1.16.
They were worried about PC bangs running parallel 1.16 copies of the game and paying less money to blizz because of the new double dipping fee rules remastered has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
320 Posts
October 25 2017 13:25 GMT
#104
Such a bummer seeing starcraft slowly being dismantled by the same company who promised not to change a thing and conserve starcraft the way it was.

And I thought remastered was going to be amazing =/
Kaos_StarCraft
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia92 Posts
October 25 2017 14:05 GMT
#105
Ya'll keep posting like it fucking matters hey
I'm sure a gigantic multinational corporation gives a fuck about the 500 of you who play this game
Wake up sheeple

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PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
October 25 2017 14:18 GMT
#106
On October 25 2017 12:49 imp42 wrote:
OpenBW:

Since several people have mentioned OpenBW in this context:

The project is still very much alive. In its current state it is playable by bots. That is, the user interface for human players is missing but the complete game can be played by issuing commands programatically.

tscmoo took the time to implement the BWAPI 4.2 such that a standard interface is available. All code is published on github and can be downloaded / modified by anyone.
I will update the OpenBW thread with the latest developments soon. In the meantime, you can see a showcase of a simple example bot playing against itself using OpenBW on Linux here.

we have put on hold only the BW HD part when SC:R was announced.

Personal Opinion:

this is my personal opinion and not not related in any way to OpenBW:
we must take matters into our own hands and cannot rely on a company like Blizzard to do what's best for the community. They will always do what they think is best for the shareholder. And more often than not they will have a rather short-term perspective when doing so.

Personally, I bought SC:R asap and have played 1 (!) multi-player game so far, where I ended up apologizing to my opponent because the game was utterly unplayable. Even though it only cost me a few dollars, Blizzard sold me a product that does not work. In other industries that would be considered fraud. And no, I don't want to have to patch anything and hope it will work at some point in the future. Would anyone buy a car and just take home the wheels plus a promise that the engine will be delivered with the next patch?

You played one game and decided it didn't work? I've played over 100 ladder matches and most have worked beautifully. I've been playing diplomacy and WWII DIE (6-7 player UMS maps) over the last two days, and only one game experienced significant lag and that was only intermittent. Maybe your software isn't configured properly.
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
October 25 2017 14:55 GMT
#107
On October 25 2017 17:41 Zealgoon wrote:
Sad. I like remastered but this is still a giant douche move from Blizzard.
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 06:00 Jealous wrote:
So is it still a Blizzard decision or do those articles posted from Korean sources make it not Blizzard's fault? Need to know if I should take my pitchfork out or not, please advise.

The koreatimes article was posted over a year ago and nobody had cared about Brain, but now that SC:R came out they suddenly want to take it down. I have a hard time believing Blizzard didn't at least have some hand in that.

Did you not see the other article that was posted? Private server didn't become illegal until this year. You can expect to see more of them taken down. If people want to maintain a private server they will have to do it outside of Korea.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
October 25 2017 14:57 GMT
#108
Well fuck you blizzard. Private servers have kept the game alive for years upon years when Blizzard abandoned BW.
First they push fish out of business and now this. I guess iccup is next. BWs future is entirely up to blizzard now, let's hope that they don't fuck it up.
AManHasNoName
Profile Joined September 2017
United States165 Posts
October 25 2017 15:04 GMT
#109
After reading through this whole thread I’m a bit confused. It looks to me like around page 4 information and sources were provided indicating that Blizzard didn’t have much (if anything) to do with this shut down. But the more recent comments go back to hate and bashing on Blizzard. Was there new information posted elsewhere that I’m not aware of?
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PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
October 25 2017 15:05 GMT
#110
On October 25 2017 23:57 Lorch wrote:
Well fuck you blizzard. Private servers have kept the game alive for years upon years when Blizzard abandoned BW.
First they push fish out of business and now this. I guess iccup is next. BWs future is entirely up to blizzard now, let's hope that they don't fuck it up.

Blizz didn't close Brain, and Iccup isn't going to be closed because it's based in Russia
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
October 25 2017 15:06 GMT
#111
On October 26 2017 00:04 AManHasNoName wrote:
After reading through this whole thread I’m a bit confused. It looks to me like around page 4 information and sources were provided indicating that Blizzard didn’t have much (if anything) to do with this shut down. But the more recent comments go back to hate and bashing on Blizzard. Was there new information posted elsewhere that I’m not aware of?

I've followed the thread and no one has posted an actual source indicating that this is Blizzard's doing. People are just reading the title and jumping in to bash Blizzard.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
October 25 2017 16:35 GMT
#112
Are fish_radio posts not enough proof for you? /s
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 17:39:24
October 25 2017 17:38 GMT
#113
On October 26 2017 00:04 AManHasNoName wrote:
After reading through this whole thread I’m a bit confused. It looks to me like around page 4 information and sources were provided indicating that Blizzard didn’t have much (if anything) to do with this shut down. But the more recent comments go back to hate and bashing on Blizzard. Was there new information posted elsewhere that I’m not aware of?

I don't know either but all I can say is it costs resources to track these things down and shut them out, so it being done with no complaints being made seems not too likely. The laws themselves exist at all because game companies must be complaining and lobbying against it, and the article did specifically cite Overwatch as being a victim.

I'm think private servers have always been illegal at least in the US? At least I think it might have been in the ToS whether or not it was really binding. But in general I'm almost certain Blizzard has never wanted private servers to be used for their games, never given permission, never (until Remastered announcement with Fish) ever condoned them. I'm sure it's not a thing specific to Remastered or even to Blizzard alone, but a more general influence of the games industry demanding greater control, and the Korean government complying / buckling under the pressure. And probably part of a wider-spread issue with copyright infringement of foreign characters and IPs in Korea, which does give Korea a somewhat sour reputation.

But still, no one spends money if no one asks for something to be done. It's not like a murder or a kidnapping. Someone has to say their IP is being violated.
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imp42
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
398 Posts
October 25 2017 17:52 GMT
#114
On October 25 2017 23:18 PorkSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 12:49 imp42 wrote:
OpenBW:

[...]I bought SC:R asap and have played 1 (!) multi-player game so far, where I ended up apologizing to my opponent because the game was utterly unplayable. [...]

You played one game and decided it didn't work? I've played over 100 ladder matches and most have worked beautifully. I've been playing diplomacy and WWII DIE (6-7 player UMS maps) over the last two days, and only one game experienced significant lag and that was only intermittent. Maybe your software isn't configured properly.

I tried a couple single player games as well. It's some kind of input lag which makes it virtually impossible to e.g. drone-drill on time.
Maybe you're right and something isn't configured properly. But I don't have those issues with the original 1.16.1.
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404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 18:47:19
October 25 2017 18:08 GMT
#115
On October 24 2017 23:56 Endymion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 22:42 jimminy_kriket wrote:
On October 24 2017 22:35 Endymion wrote:
don't care if they fix the fucking game until they ban players rebinding patrol to q, move to w, and overlord to e, what a joke. "not a material competitive advantage in zvz" lol

Don't start this shit here. Completely off topic.

i'm good, feels completely on topic to me given that it's becoming increasingly harder to play broodwar instead of sc2lite

User was warned for this post

you can still disable hotkeys in custom games you know...

Also is there any actual proof that Blizzard is behind the shutdown? Or is it just another clickbaity title to get the small percentile of the sub 10000 foreigners who play this game to raise their pitchforks, half of them just eagerly waiting on news in this forum to have yet another reason to hate at blizzard and to shit on SC:R, just out of spite.

EDIT:

Only some serious internet riots can make them move their butts and do something.

I don't really think Blizzard as a company really cares that much what less than 1% of their fanbase playing a 20 year old game thinks of them. Most of them do not even buy any new games of them and constantly shit on their new games (even before the release of sc2 that has been the general trend). Yet that hasn't stopped the community from feeling delusional enough to think that SCR was all but a quick cash grab. As if Blizzard would have made more money out of SCR than they would have made from devoting these programmers to fixing bugs in WoW/Overwatch.

Unfortunately the BW community thinks its entitled to everything. You think you are entitled to have illegal servers (even though it should have been common knowledge that Blizzard could shut them down at any moment), free copies of the game... etc.

The only argument of any value is that the promises with SCR (good servers, team matchmaking, ....) were not delivered upon release and are still not delivered 3 months after.
aka Kalevi
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 18:20:04
October 25 2017 18:19 GMT
#116
I was about to buy Overwatch, because a friend was having a blast with it, but now I can no longer support Blizzard Activision.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 25 2017 18:26 GMT
#117
On October 26 2017 00:04 AManHasNoName wrote:
After reading through this whole thread I’m a bit confused. It looks to me like around page 4 information and sources were provided indicating that Blizzard didn’t have much (if anything) to do with this shut down. But the more recent comments go back to hate and bashing on Blizzard. Was there new information posted elsewhere that I’m not aware of?


People are clearly just looking at the title and not reading the several pages of thread.

On October 26 2017 01:35 aQuaSC wrote:
Are fish_radio posts not enough proof for you? /s


No....

His history isn't exactly uhh...too great. Incredibly bias and doesn't actually have any affiliation with brain.

Combine that with the recent passing/effect of the new law regarding private gaming and there is no reason to implicate anyone at this stage. A statement from Brain would be nice, but for now there is no evidence that Blizzard had anything to do with the closure of Brain.

On October 25 2017 23:05 Kaos_StarCraft wrote:
Ya'll keep posting like it fucking matters hey
I'm sure a gigantic multinational corporation gives a fuck about the 500 of you who play this game
Wake up sheeple

User was warned for this post


You clearly don't understand why people are posting here. Stopping to think about it might clear it up for you.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 25 2017 18:28 GMT
#118
On October 25 2017 23:57 Lorch wrote:
Well fuck you blizzard. Private servers have kept the game alive for years upon years when Blizzard abandoned BW.
First they push fish out of business and now this. I guess iccup is next. BWs future is entirely up to blizzard now, let's hope that they don't fuck it up.


Why do people just read the title, only the title, and then post. ;(
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IIEclipseII
Profile Joined February 2016
Germany157 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 18:39:39
October 25 2017 18:38 GMT
#119
Why is Blizzard not making a new version of SC like CS:GO with CS, which Sc2 and SC:BW people can play? A whole community is split amongst games and servers.
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto5007 Posts
October 25 2017 18:43 GMT
#120
Worst case you then have 3 titles in competition. CS got incredibly lucky that this worked out for them, and it took years to get there as initially people didn't like CS:GO a lot. Also you can't just develop such a game in a year.
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