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vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
September 03 2017 03:59 GMT
#21
I actually use the Ajazz Ak33, what I've done is bound F1-F4 as hotkeys 7,8,9,0. I use my Fkeys on tilde,tab,caps.

Also I play with a great deal of commands on c,v,b where my thumb basically does a lot of work. to kinda make it useable in both daily drives and starcraft use i have keycaps that extend out of specific keys so that its really easy for my fingers to find themselves. My only problem as of now is the board came with 65g'ish and they are pretty hefty not gonna lie, thinking of putting reds in or some shit if its easy.

Honestly I wouldnt say that the rebinds are worth if you have a great deal of muscle memory built up, you are fighting yourself more than the game at that point. For me coming back to RTS i decided to try it, I don't regret it but its a long term commitment to see any benefits. I'd still have to put in just as much time as anyone else you may have a theoretical higher ceiling but until someone comes out and does it I think its fine.
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
September 03 2017 04:28 GMT
#22
On September 03 2017 12:13 riotjune wrote:
Does Alt key do anything? I never used it. All I found that it might be any use is (from liquipedia entry):

Alt+Click on own unit: Select all units of its last group (group = units selected by any way)

...which I don't know what it actually means.


Say you select a group of units and tell them to do something. If you alt click on any one of those units that you just selected, it'll re-select the whole group.
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
September 03 2017 05:04 GMT
#23
This is beyond lame. Depending on keyboard you get to remap hotkeys or not. So much for worrying about comp advantages. Circus.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
September 03 2017 05:57 GMT
#24
On September 03 2017 13:28 dhe95 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2017 12:13 riotjune wrote:
Does Alt key do anything? I never used it. All I found that it might be any use is (from liquipedia entry):

Alt+Click on own unit: Select all units of its last group (group = units selected by any way)

...which I don't know what it actually means.


Say you select a group of units and tell them to do something. If you alt click on any one of those units that you just selected, it'll re-select the whole group.

Thanks. I just tried it in-game, seems like a redundant feature when you can just press the hotkey number to select your control group. The other Alt functions seem redundant as well, don't see myself using this key other than Alt-Tabbing
sickkungen
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden179 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-03 08:02:00
September 03 2017 08:01 GMT
#25
alt + c centers camera on unit, i use this every game xD
Mizconout
Profile Joined August 2016
52 Posts
September 03 2017 09:09 GMT
#26
Odd of OP to not include software means for custom hotkey setups. Probably stems from trying to avoid stepping on the toes of the pedantry between OG and custom hotkey setups. Enough derailing, move to another thread to discuss semantics.

StarCraft Remastered has not (yet?) implemented key layering and custom hotkeys for camera and unit selection. TheCore and an alternation of TheCore, TheCore Lite, has had significant community response and research exceeding over half of a decade. TheCore Lite has the best of familiarity, ergonomics, and speed of any custom hotkey layout.

On the Razer Blade through Razer Synapse each key input can be changed to another key.

In a best attempt to emulate TheCore Lite in StarCraft Remastered on a Razer Blade:
[image loading]
Red: Camera Hotkeys
Purple: Control Groups
Blue: All-Purpose Buttons, i.e., spells, buildings, attack commands
Green: Shift
Cyan: Control


Notes:
- camera hotkeys may want to be pushed in slightly to the right for comfort.
- shift and control buttons are positioned for comfort, completely subjective to the user
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 03 2017 22:47 GMT
#27
Damnit TT1... I have a custom keyboard but the Plum84 is super tempting now. Pretty fair price for bluetooth and rgb and "topre" switches which I never tried before, might have to give it a go. What are your thoughts on yours?
|Terran|
Nal_CrayOn
Profile Joined December 2004
600 Posts
September 03 2017 23:27 GMT
#28
lmao TT1
my MacBook keyboard is the best way to play sc yo xD
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 01:52:47
September 04 2017 01:44 GMT
#29
On September 04 2017 07:47 Demurity wrote:
Damnit TT1... I have a custom keyboard but the Plum84 is super tempting now. Pretty fair price for bluetooth and rgb and "topre" switches which I never tried before, might have to give it a go. What are your thoughts on yours?


I didnt buy the Plum84 cus it has 35g switches, i bought the Plum75 cus it has 45g switches which are great for gaming (plum75 also has close f keys, not as close as plum84 tho). Still haven't gotten it yet, i'm currently using a topre realforce keyboard and they're by far the best switches i've ever used.. and i own like 15 keyboards. Plum keyboards don't use real topre switches tho, they're topre clones.

A real topre keyboard costs anywhere from 230 to 300$. You can get a plum 75 for 99$ (black version, no bluetooth/rgb etc.) or 130$ (white version with pbt caps). Plum 84 costs like 120 or 130$. Looks like a great value board, the reviews i've read so far have all been really positive.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Demurity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States424 Posts
September 04 2017 02:23 GMT
#30
On September 04 2017 10:44 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2017 07:47 Demurity wrote:
Damnit TT1... I have a custom keyboard but the Plum84 is super tempting now. Pretty fair price for bluetooth and rgb and "topre" switches which I never tried before, might have to give it a go. What are your thoughts on yours?


I didnt buy the Plum84 cus it has 35g switches, i bought the Plum75 cus it has 45g switches which are great for gaming (plum75 also has close f keys, not as close as plum84 tho). Still haven't gotten it yet, i'm currently using a topre realforce keyboard and they're by far the best switches i've ever used.. and i own like 15 keyboards. Plum keyboards don't use real topre switches tho, they're topre clones.

A real topre keyboard costs anywhere from 230 to 300$. You can get a plum 75 for 99$ (black version, no bluetooth/rgb etc.) or 130$ (white version with pbt caps). Plum 84 costs like 120 or 130$. Looks like a great value board, the reviews i've read so far have all been really positive.


Yeah, the Plum75 is nice but I need home/end keys. I went with a custom board with gateron reds over a topre, makes me curious now to know what topre's would be like... hnggg
|Terran|
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
September 04 2017 02:49 GMT
#31
On September 04 2017 11:23 Demurity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2017 10:44 TT1 wrote:
On September 04 2017 07:47 Demurity wrote:
Damnit TT1... I have a custom keyboard but the Plum84 is super tempting now. Pretty fair price for bluetooth and rgb and "topre" switches which I never tried before, might have to give it a go. What are your thoughts on yours?


I didnt buy the Plum84 cus it has 35g switches, i bought the Plum75 cus it has 45g switches which are great for gaming (plum75 also has close f keys, not as close as plum84 tho). Still haven't gotten it yet, i'm currently using a topre realforce keyboard and they're by far the best switches i've ever used.. and i own like 15 keyboards. Plum keyboards don't use real topre switches tho, they're topre clones.

A real topre keyboard costs anywhere from 230 to 300$. You can get a plum 75 for 99$ (black version, no bluetooth/rgb etc.) or 130$ (white version with pbt caps). Plum 84 costs like 120 or 130$. Looks like a great value board, the reviews i've read so far have all been really positive.


Yeah, the Plum75 is nice but I need home/end keys. I went with a custom board with gateron reds over a topre, makes me curious now to know what topre's would be like... hnggg


well if you dont mind paying 230$ for a keyboard.. xD

https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards,rftenkeyless&pid=rf_se19e0
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
tobai
Profile Joined April 2017
28 Posts
September 24 2017 22:26 GMT
#32
A little update, the board I built i kind of stopped using, since it's a hassle to have 2 keyboards on your desk, i now have this layer on my gh60 based build:
[image loading]
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 22:49:10
September 24 2017 22:36 GMT
#33
I don't think i could ever get used to a layout like that . I'd much rather use regular f keys (preferably closer f keys like on the plum 84 and 75), you can cycle through the keys quicker (which is really important when you wanna evacuate workers or build them).

putting shift on spacebar is cute tho, i like that. makes it easier to setup your cam keys.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 24 2017 22:50 GMT
#34
u don't need keyboards with programmable keys. all keyboards can do that with certain programs or changing stuff in the registry.

i love this though, I love good keyboards. how they feel...
KipnaPlayer
Profile Joined January 2018
2 Posts
January 14 2018 20:33 GMT
#35
What did it cost you to make this keyboard? What kind of tools do you need to make it happen? And from 1 to 10 how difficult was everything. From editing the layout to building it?do you have any good videos of how to do this? and what website did you use?
zoNin
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada57 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-18 15:05:32
January 18 2018 15:01 GMT
#36
double post oops
zoNin
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada57 Posts
January 18 2018 15:04 GMT
#37
If you want a real legit sick KR board look at : http://winkeyless.kr

[image loading]
an example of what you can get, but everything is customizable when you put it together on the site. That certain model is the b.mini which I thought would be nice for RTS because the F keys and number keys are aligned and everything, and it has been so far.

As for help on what to get you could just email the guy and he is really good at communicating and trying to get you exactly what you want, you can get it mostly assembled by him but it costs extra
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1597 Posts
February 01 2018 19:09 GMT
#38
My previous keyboard died last night. I ordered the Velocifire TKL78 mechanical keyboard last night for $28.99, anyone have experience with or use this keyboard?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
February 01 2018 20:31 GMT
#39
On January 19 2018 00:04 zoNin wrote:
If you want a real legit sick KR board look at : http://winkeyless.kr

[image loading]
an example of what you can get, but everything is customizable when you put it together on the site. That certain model is the b.mini which I thought would be nice for RTS because the F keys and number keys are aligned and everything, and it has been so far.

As for help on what to get you could just email the guy and he is really good at communicating and trying to get you exactly what you want, you can get it mostly assembled by him but it costs extra


Are all of these Mechanical keyboards or not? Because they seem extremely basic and standard if they aren't Mechanical, I cannot understand the over 100$ pricetag, just sayin...
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1597 Posts
February 01 2018 22:02 GMT
#40
I can't see myself ever buying a $100+ keyboard. Screwwwww that.
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