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On March 23 2017 19:37 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 18:35 hitthat wrote:On March 23 2017 17:43 [[Starlight]] wrote:On March 23 2017 17:12 hitthat wrote:On March 23 2017 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote: I'm all for new music
Terran 1 and 3 are one of the best video games music pieces ever done. Music however is a thing that can change without braking the game, so I am not against it. Is that regular braking, or anti-lock braking? Don't be dick, SL. I wouldnt be true Pollack if my english was perfect. I know man, and I wasn't trying to be mean. But the posting window does have spellcheck.
In my last case it wouldnt catch the error, I guess
Edit: thx, corrected.
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On March 23 2017 19:49 hitthat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 19:37 [[Starlight]] wrote:On March 23 2017 18:35 hitthat wrote:On March 23 2017 17:43 [[Starlight]] wrote:On March 23 2017 17:12 hitthat wrote:On March 23 2017 16:35 ICanFlyLow wrote: I'm all for new music
Terran 1 and 3 are one of the best video games music pieces ever done. Music however is a thing that can change without braking the game, so I am not against it. Is that regular braking, or anti-lock braking? Don't be dick, SL. I wouldnt be true Pollack if my english was perfect. I know man, and I wasn't trying to be mean. But the posting window does have spellcheck. In my last case it wouldnt catche the error, I guess
That's true. And it's "catch".
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Watch out, we got a grammar nacho here.
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On March 23 2017 19:54 riotjune wrote: Watch out, we got a grammar nacho here. Trying not to be. You 'looser'.
I guess we're getting off-track here, and should get back to bitching about an update whose contents we don't know even yet.
Back to your regularly-scheduled program.
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On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote: They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.
And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!
Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.
Exactly. I'm personally tired of these libtards that are hoping for the remaster to be what they want apart from the original. People are anticipating BWHD for the hope of it being EXACTLY THE SAME nothing more nothing less. People that want a change to the original already have options! Why are people whining when they can play a SC2 mod with ease!? Seriously, wider field of view, more unit selection... we already have that in SC2BW mods. Don't be a troll.
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On March 23 2017 03:14 Jealous wrote: Loving the condescending tone from you, ZenithM. You ask for an explanation, get it, then get an attitude about the fact that what was presented is incontrovertible. I'm sorry that what I wrote disagrees with your fantasy world understanding of Brood War and what will and will not affect it and therefore what will and will not be palatable for the top-level players and organizers who have kept the scene alive in Korea, as well as the foreign players that have stuck with the game throughout the years. Don't descend to Fayth's level by making off-hand comments about me in unrelated discussions with other people. What are you gaining? Trying to get a rise out of me? Or are you justifying your stance by planting me in the "BW elitist" category, thereby dogmatizing my logically presented arguments by painting me an extremist?
I would buy Brood War HD in a heartbeat if the name is representative of what it is: Brood War, unaltered, in higher aesthetic quality. If it is anything but, then I will continue to enjoy BW classic as I have for nearly 20 years and continue watching my favorite progamers continue playing BW classic to increasing viewer numbers and in growing prizepool tournaments without shedding a single tear. Thanks for your concern. I'm sorry for the snarky tone. I already said I actually know screen ratio would change some gameplay situations, that's why I can't really discuss that. But in turn, your argument isn't strong as you think, you haven't played in 16 : 9, and in fact few people have, and it doesn't change anything in the engine, so all you can do is speculate.
I don't see how you wouldn't be a "BW elitist" in this discussion. So far, you haven't agreed to a single trade-off that BWHD could make. That's literally the most extreme position you can take in this debate. I know how it goes now, I'm arguing QoL changes like resolution changes to adapt to modern monitors, rebindable hotkeys, which may very well be enough to attract a nice amount of new players (like me, although I don't actually care much about screen ratio), and of course, you will answer that BW absolutely doesn't need new players because it has survived for so long. Fair enough, I won't discuss it anymore.
But if you truly hope BWHD will change absolutely nothing, you're in for a disappointment.
Edit: I actually almost couldn't tell if the above post was sarcasm or not. I hope you get what you want, BW fans. Which is apparently... BW with 4 times as many pixels? "BWHD" I guess, it's all in the title! That will be $30.
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On March 23 2017 21:44 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 03:14 Jealous wrote: Loving the condescending tone from you, ZenithM. You ask for an explanation, get it, then get an attitude about the fact that what was presented is incontrovertible. I'm sorry that what I wrote disagrees with your fantasy world understanding of Brood War and what will and will not affect it and therefore what will and will not be palatable for the top-level players and organizers who have kept the scene alive in Korea, as well as the foreign players that have stuck with the game throughout the years. Don't descend to Fayth's level by making off-hand comments about me in unrelated discussions with other people. What are you gaining? Trying to get a rise out of me? Or are you justifying your stance by planting me in the "BW elitist" category, thereby dogmatizing my logically presented arguments by painting me an extremist?
I would buy Brood War HD in a heartbeat if the name is representative of what it is: Brood War, unaltered, in higher aesthetic quality. If it is anything but, then I will continue to enjoy BW classic as I have for nearly 20 years and continue watching my favorite progamers continue playing BW classic to increasing viewer numbers and in growing prizepool tournaments without shedding a single tear. Thanks for your concern. I'm sorry for the snarky tone. I already said I actually know screen ratio would change some gameplay situations, that's why I can't really discuss that. But in turn, your argument isn't strong as you think, you haven't played in 16 : 9, and in fact few people have, and it doesn't change anything in the engine, so all you can do is speculate. I don't see how you wouldn't be a "BW elitist" in this discussion. So far, you haven't agreed to a single trade-off that BWHD could make. That's literally the most extreme position you can take in this debate. I know how it goes now, I'm arguing QoL changes like resolution changes to adapt to modern monitors, rebindable hotkeys, which may very well be enough to attract a nice amount of new players (like me, although I don't actually care much about screen ratio), and of course, you will answer that BW absolutely doesn't need new players because it has survived for so long. Fair enough, I won't discuss it anymore. But if you truly hope BWHD will change absolutely nothing, you're in for a disappointment. Edit: I actually almost couldn't tell if the above post was sarcasm or not. I hope you get what you want, BW fans. Which is apparently... BW with 4 times as many pixels? "BWHD" I guess, it's all in the title! That will be $30. Yes, it's all we want. Thank you
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the only stopping me to play sc2 is that MBS and unlimited selection,i wish they put it like bw.
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On March 23 2017 20:21 saalih416 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote: They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.
And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!
Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.
Exactly. I'm personally tired of these libtards that are hoping for the remaster to be what they want apart from the original.
Uhhh... how did BWHD become a liberal vs conservative political issue??? Srsly dude, wtf.
The argument's heated enough as it is, now you want to drag POLITICS into it?
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And adepts, shooting pylons, swarm hosts, brood lords, medivacs with boosts, widow mines, tempests,...
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SC2 was just a bad game in my opinon but thats neither here nor there. People liked it, some people didnt. Broodwar isnt sc2 and an updated hd version of broodwar doesnt merit gameplay changes--- if you want to make a game similar to broodwar with gameplay differences from it, they can do that. But this discussion is about [the possibility of] taking an existing game and abrogating certain mechanics or design features. Its not 'elitist' to say fuck off to that. I'm not looking down on anyone if they want a game very similar to broodwar with key differences. But it isnt broodwar, and the notion that a company may attempt to essentially underhandedly destroy an existing community/experience (after they already tried) is going to produce anger in people. Blizzards incompetence/past active attempts to destroy the community, also drives paranoia.
If bwhd is just fixing bugs and increasing graphics, then it quite literally merits the name broodwar high definition. If its changing gameplay mechanics this is just a lazy attempt by blizzard to once again produce an RTS off the back of starcrafts success. Thats some low lying slime piece of shit behaviour.
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On March 24 2017 06:57 Dazed_Spy wrote: If bwhd is just fixing bugs and increasing graphics, then it quite literally merits the name broodwar high definition. If its changing gameplay mechanics this is just a lazy attempt by blizzard to once again produce an RTS off the back of starcrafts success. Thats some low lying slime piece of shit behaviour. That's why they'll call it Brood War: Remastered and fuck w/ it like a bad DJ trying to score hot chicks on your annual cringe-worthy high school party. I'm praying to be proven wrong just this once.
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btw theres no way they can make units like the reaver behave the same way as they do in BW. You guys can kiss that goodbye, tellin u now.
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On March 24 2017 06:24 [[Starlight]] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2017 20:21 saalih416 wrote:On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote: They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.
And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!
Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.
Exactly. I'm personally tired of these libtards that are hoping for the remaster to be what they want apart from the original. Uhhh... how did BWHD become a liberal vs conservative political issue??? Srsly dude, wtf. The argument's heated enough as it is, now you want to drag POLITICS into it?
Make Brood War Great Again
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I mean I don't want to be mean, but WC3 is still huge in china with sponsors and viewerbase much bigger than BW KR. And what hey got was one small patch fixing modern OS issues, added 16 support and chinese got something special for netease client.
If you guys expect something more that feel free to but dont be dissapointed, from business side of Blizzard im quite sure its "minimal investment" for potentional profit.
Also all of you guys are playing on free servers anyway so there is that. Wonder how that will do for adapting iccup and fish into it.
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On March 24 2017 07:19 ICanFlyLow wrote: btw theres no way they can make units like the reaver behave the same way as they do in BW. You guys can kiss that goodbye, tellin u now.
You are ignoring 20 years of advancements in coding and game development. Where theres a will, theres a way.
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On March 24 2017 07:27 JungleTerrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2017 06:24 [[Starlight]] wrote:On March 23 2017 20:21 saalih416 wrote:On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote: They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.
And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!
Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.
Exactly. I'm personally tired of these libtards that are hoping for the remaster to be what they want apart from the original. Uhhh... how did BWHD become a liberal vs conservative political issue??? Srsly dude, wtf. The argument's heated enough as it is, now you want to drag POLITICS into it? Make Brood War Great Again
It never stopped being great.
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On March 24 2017 07:19 ICanFlyLow wrote: btw theres no way they can make units like the reaver behave the same way as they do in BW. You guys can kiss that goodbye, tellin u now.
They don't have to. It could easily run on the BW engine. Halo remakes for example, were mere texture updates and you could even switch between the original and the hd version during gameplay.
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On March 24 2017 07:19 ICanFlyLow wrote: btw theres no way they can make units like the reaver behave the same way as they do in BW. You guys can kiss that goodbye, tellin u now. Unless they use the same engine but upgrade sprites and terrain graphics? Oops.
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On March 24 2017 07:36 Whiplash wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2017 07:19 ICanFlyLow wrote: btw theres no way they can make units like the reaver behave the same way as they do in BW. You guys can kiss that goodbye, tellin u now. You are ignoring 20 years of advancements in coding and game development. Where theres a will, theres a way.
idk, it's modern blizzard. What can u do except be suspicious?
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