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Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-22 21:21:13
March 22 2017 21:18 GMT
#761
Honestly the way Blizzard initially presented the Diablo 1 "remake" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. They more or less implied they were making Diablo 1 HD, when in reality it turned out to be some weird time limited Diablo 1-like episode completely within Diablo 3.
Tyrant.
james1024
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
118 Posts
March 22 2017 22:08 GMT
#762
I hope they nail this. It would be great to get some new lifeblood into the scene, attracting younger players to our sadly aging (though glorious) game.
Woke this morning to the stinging lash///Every man rise from the ash/// Each betrayal begins with trust/// Every man returns to dust///
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
March 22 2017 22:17 GMT
#763
On March 23 2017 06:18 Jae Zedong wrote:
Honestly the way Blizzard initially presented the Diablo 1 "remake" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. They more or less implied they were making Diablo 1 HD, when in reality it turned out to be some weird time limited Diablo 1-like episode completely within Diablo 3.

I mean to be fair, I don't think anyone actually thought that who actually watched the presentation.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
March 22 2017 22:21 GMT
#764
On March 23 2017 04:50 -Archangel- wrote:
I have been trying to prepare you for days now so you are not too butthurt when BWHD turns out with more modern UI, but you all just keep to your illusions. Don't say I didnt' warn you.


Dont worry, I will shit on Blizzard, not you in that case
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-22 22:34:54
March 22 2017 22:32 GMT
#765
They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.

And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!

Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.
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Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
March 22 2017 22:37 GMT
#766
On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote:Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes?


They did it once.
Tyrant.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-22 23:08:21
March 22 2017 23:00 GMT
#767
New topic about BW in SC2 forums? You force me to invade the alien territory with my pregudices :[

Edit: it took me less than 10 sec to multi-facepalm myself after reading the content there.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
March 22 2017 23:15 GMT
#768
On March 23 2017 07:17 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 06:18 Jae Zedong wrote:
Honestly the way Blizzard initially presented the Diablo 1 "remake" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. They more or less implied they were making Diablo 1 HD, when in reality it turned out to be some weird time limited Diablo 1-like episode completely within Diablo 3.

I mean to be fair, I don't think anyone actually thought that who actually watched the presentation.


Very true. Anyone who thought it would be anything else than what we had in January is terrible at listening and comprehending. The presentation very clearly stated what they were going to give us in the next patch/season, and we got just what they said. And it was still a lot of fun, imo.
LML
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 23 2017 00:17 GMT
#769
On March 23 2017 08:15 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 07:17 lestye wrote:
On March 23 2017 06:18 Jae Zedong wrote:
Honestly the way Blizzard initially presented the Diablo 1 "remake" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. They more or less implied they were making Diablo 1 HD, when in reality it turned out to be some weird time limited Diablo 1-like episode completely within Diablo 3.

I mean to be fair, I don't think anyone actually thought that who actually watched the presentation.


Very true. Anyone who thought it would be anything else than what we had in January is terrible at listening and comprehending. The presentation very clearly stated what they were going to give us in the next patch/season, and we got just what they said. And it was still a lot of fun, imo.

To be fair, there were rumors swirling around about a Diablo 2 remake prior to Blizzcon. I think most of that just piggybacked off of the BW:HD rumor that didn't end up materializing then, plus all the evidence pointing to Blizzard wanting to update their legacy games and possibly bring them to the B.net launcher. I think everyone just let the hype get out of hand.

However, a real BW:HD announcement could still mean good things about remasters for the other legacy games, besides Warcraft 1 and 2 which I heard just won't get remastered according to a Q&A at Blizzcon.
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
March 23 2017 01:21 GMT
#770
On March 23 2017 09:17 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 08:15 LML wrote:
On March 23 2017 07:17 lestye wrote:
On March 23 2017 06:18 Jae Zedong wrote:
Honestly the way Blizzard initially presented the Diablo 1 "remake" doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. They more or less implied they were making Diablo 1 HD, when in reality it turned out to be some weird time limited Diablo 1-like episode completely within Diablo 3.

I mean to be fair, I don't think anyone actually thought that who actually watched the presentation.


Very true. Anyone who thought it would be anything else than what we had in January is terrible at listening and comprehending. The presentation very clearly stated what they were going to give us in the next patch/season, and we got just what they said. And it was still a lot of fun, imo.

To be fair, there were rumors swirling around about a Diablo 2 remake prior to Blizzcon. I think most of that just piggybacked off of the BW:HD rumor that didn't end up materializing then, plus all the evidence pointing to Blizzard wanting to update their legacy games and possibly bring them to the B.net launcher. I think everyone just let the hype get out of hand.

However, a real BW:HD announcement could still mean good things about remasters for the other legacy games, besides Warcraft 1 and 2 which I heard just won't get remastered according to a Q&A at Blizzcon.


A whole bunch of the diablo subreddit seemed to have railed themselves up for no reason, thinking BlizzCon would reveal Diablo 4, or at least a massive D3 expansion. For weeks after BlizzCon it was nothing but shitposts crying about how disappointed they were by everything that was announced. Personally I thought it was great, it showed that they still poured lots of resources into D3, despite the few seasons before being rather lackluster, when it came to new content.

The same thing happened last summer with so many people on here. Now, 6 months later, it's the same story, people just arguing the same things again and again and many hyping themselves into believing something about a remake.

Diablo 2 got their patch a year ago to enable support on newer OS's, and that may very well be what is coming for BW, seeing the 1.17 ftp discovery last summer. All the Remake and HD posts never show any leaks or proof, just sensational headlines to get hits on their articles and make money from ad revenues.
It may be something around this, but maybe the big announcement was just that BW is part of the SSL.
LML
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4336 Posts
March 23 2017 01:26 GMT
#771
On March 23 2017 08:00 hitthat wrote:
New topic about BW in SC2 forums? You force me to invade the alien territory with my pregudices :[

Edit: it took me less than 10 sec to multi-facepalm myself after reading the content there.

Had a quick browse through it.
Saw some guy with 1 post asking for smartcasting to be implemented.
Cringed and came back here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 23 2017 01:34 GMT
#772
On March 23 2017 10:26 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 08:00 hitthat wrote:
New topic about BW in SC2 forums? You force me to invade the alien territory with my pregudices :[

Edit: it took me less than 10 sec to multi-facepalm myself after reading the content there.

Had a quick browse through it.
Saw some guy with 1 post asking for smartcasting to be implemented.
Cringed and came back here.

Smart cast science vessels would be hilarious.

Obviously templars as well but at least they dont fly around in huge clumps of death :D
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
March 23 2017 01:44 GMT
#773
On March 23 2017 10:34 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 10:26 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
On March 23 2017 08:00 hitthat wrote:
New topic about BW in SC2 forums? You force me to invade the alien territory with my pregudices :[

Edit: it took me less than 10 sec to multi-facepalm myself after reading the content there.

Had a quick browse through it.
Saw some guy with 1 post asking for smartcasting to be implemented.
Cringed and came back here.

Smart cast science vessels would be hilarious.

Obviously templars as well but at least they dont fly around in huge clumps of death :D


I think it would be even worse with queens vs tanks :D
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 01:45:19
March 23 2017 01:44 GMT
#774
On March 23 2017 07:37 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote:Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes?


They did it once.

Yup. And then they later went back to the original, better, game.

User was warned for being hilarious
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 02:52:38
March 23 2017 02:26 GMT
#775
On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote:
They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.

And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!

Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.


It would be interesting if BWHD is 'just'...

modern OS support
bnet upgrades (sidegrades? downgrades?)
bug fixes
customizable keys
upped res to 1280x960 (everything scaled up equally, i.e. same view, just higher res)
same 4:3 aspect ratio


Would ppl still bitch about that? Or just be happy that an 18-year-old game got some well-earned love?



(btw, dumb joke: "Why didn't Blizzard give BW any love 'til now?"

"Cuz it was underage.")
User was warned for being hilarious
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-23 03:39:47
March 23 2017 03:34 GMT
#776
On March 23 2017 11:26 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2017 07:32 B-royal wrote:
They won't fuck this up. Do you really think players like Flash, Bisu, Jaedong, EffOrt will switch to a game with a different field of view, MBS, and all these horrible changes? EffOrt complained about having to play on a different OS haha.

And if pro's don't switch, their fans won't switch, which encompasses the entirety of Korea, the major instigator for this very remaster in the first place!

Grubby doesn't even play wc3 in 16: 9 even though w3arena supports it. Pro's very much value comfort and familiarity.


It would be interesting if BWHD is 'just'...

modern OS support
bnet upgrades (sidegrades? downgrades?)
bug fixes
customizable keys
upped res to 1280x960 (everything scaled up equally, i.e. same view, just higher res)
same 4:3 aspect ratio


Would ppl still bitch about that? Or just be happy that an 18-year-old game got some well-earned love?

That would make me pretty happy, although I think the max resolution needs to be at least double that. 960 vertical is already way out of date. Also, widescreen for campaigns/obs mode/UMS would be a pretty reasonable addition.

There's also a big opportunity to add more tilesets, more doodads, etc. I think one thing that's actually really good about SC2 is that the maps look great* and are very visually diverse.

*except for the art direction problems that plague the entire game, but w/e

edit: On this topic, I'm sure mappers would appreciate having things like reverse ramps and the ability to mark tiles as unbuildable without accidentally making them high ground/cover available by default.
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
March 23 2017 04:14 GMT
#777
how about better AI for once
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
March 23 2017 04:21 GMT
#778
you mean pathing or computer opponents?

I'd like my opponent to be AlphaGo
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
March 23 2017 04:35 GMT
#779
On March 23 2017 13:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you mean pathing or computer opponents?

I'd like my opponent to be AlphaGo

You can play alphago if you get really good on Fish

But yeah smarter AI would be pretty cool too, could be updated with builds people actually do to help new players ease in
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 23 2017 05:05 GMT
#780
Multiple difficulties in general would be nice. The campaign could be made easier for noobs so that they don't have to use cheat codes. I can practice builds and macro timings against an easier, passive AI without having to worry about some arbitrary mass zealot or m&m attack that happens 95% of the time.
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