EPTRapid Appreciation Thread - Page 2
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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nbaker
United States1341 Posts
On December 07 2016 19:53 B-royal wrote: 2. Versus Protoss: 2.1. Versus Forge expand: Overpool, 14 hatch at natural, ~ 13 extractor, ~13-15 hatch at third (close-by or new natural) into lair is the standard build order against a forge expand. As soon as lair finishes, a spire for scourge. 2.2. Versus a 1 gate expand: It is common to not tech lair, instead get a 4th hatchery and a hydralisk den first before teching to lair. Do you mean 11 hatch at natural or am I wrong? | ||
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D_lux
Hungary60 Posts
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Comodore
Brazil51 Posts
But they are fun to hear, even if they miss alot of thing going on in the game. I think they bring the fun side of commentating and finally I'm able to understand the interview with players, just that is so awesome that i don't care about they being wrong about BO or meta. | ||
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B-royal
Belgium1330 Posts
On December 07 2016 20:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: do you wait for 6 lings to make your hatch at the natural ? 2.2 is common to get ling speed first :D No I don't wait, but I decided to write 14 in case the zerg gets pylon blocked, which I feel is a pretty common occurrence. Yeah ling speed before the hydra den and 4th hatch. They also take drones off gas etc there's a lot of details I intentionally left out. It was just a short example after all.On December 08 2016 02:47 nbaker wrote: Do you mean 11 hatch at natural or am I wrong? Sure, I just wrote 14 in case they pylon block. 11 is indeed the correct supply if you can place it immediately. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
On December 05 2016 01:49 Elroi wrote: Awesome games, awesome casting. That guy stepping in for tasteless is really nice to listen to. Keep up the good work! | ||
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kogeT
Poland2041 Posts
As for the commentary itself, I enjoy it, but as some other more experienced players it sometimes annoys me when he tries to cover the aspects of a game he has no clue about. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24593 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On December 08 2016 05:20 Heartland wrote: I would like to invite you all to copy my sig line (mostly the relevant part but any/all is good) "I am not a shitposter." Right. O k a y. | ||
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Scaramanga
Australia8092 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
game knowledge is something we're always willing to help with | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2609 Posts
Also please stop praising Starcraft as the only real and best "e-Sport" out there. It is simply not true (even if you do not like DotA, LoL etc. etc., they are beloved e-Sport titles). Why don't you say "Starcraft is one of the best games out there" instead of "Starcraft is the absolute best game, no doubt about it.". No need for superlatives, when it isn't backed up by facts. And as far as I know, liking a game is subjective and personal to every one of us. If you ask me, I would agree that Starcraft is the best and hardest game, but I do not like you guys presenting it like a fact. Lastly, please for god's sake, stop comparing EVERYTHING to SC2. We know that you are primarily SC2 casters and that this is a good flow for you (gives you content to talk about, where you obviously know more about) and I could handle a comparison from time to time, but when you mostly hear SC2 unit names and spells in a BW cast, it is not bearable anymore. Why don't you tell the viewers what a science vessel can do, instead of making an obscure comparison to a mix out of SC2 Ghost and Raven. Just say "it has D-Matrix, which gives the unit 250 extra health for 60 seconds, it has Irradiate, which deals 250 damage to biological targets over 37 seconds and it has EMP, which is an area of effect spell, that causes the depletion of any energy from spellcasters and shields of protoss units.". This would not even be worse (actually I think it would be easier to understand) for the SC2 viewers. Such details might not be present to you, but it is not so hard to print out the description of every unit and spell and just read from your script. As I wrote beforehand, we know that you aren't that much of a broodwar enthusiast, it is fine, if you help yourself out in things you do not know. This post might seem to be overly negative towards you and Artosis, but please do not take it as personal attack (if you even read this at all), but as constructive criticism from a viewer that would actually like your casting, if I would not be confronted by these three things all the time. I would not write this, if I only had that feeling after one cast. Believe me, I built my oppinion on several cast (this applies mostly to Artosis and Tasteless, but also to your casting). Overall, I have to repeat that you are a good caster and if you keep improving I will definitly keep enjoying your casts in future as well. | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1707 Posts
He really needs to play and study BW to achieve his potential. I hope that happens. Thanks for stepping up Rapid! | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
Just remember, for ZvP, 3 hatch spire for scourge vs corsairs, into 5 hatch hydra to deal with the protoss army and apply pressure/get map presence. Mutas do not appear before this, but can appear after that, if the corsair number isn't obscenely high - specifically to snipe high templars, so that the mass hydra from 5 hats can wipe the protoss army that now has no storms. + Show Spoiler [More details] + Opening is usually overpool. The 3rd hatch is usually at another natural, so that the zerg can get a main for free. To deal with early slow zealot attacks, you make speedlings and maybe a sunken. To defend from the midgame speedlot attack, you make a sim city with your 2 additional hatches, one on each natural, and an evo chamber - then add sunkens behind it (their number depends on the protoss build) and plug the holes with zerglings (hydras). Depending on how the game goes and what map it is, sometimes players opt to turtle up on 4 bases with lurkers and static defense, until hive (while harrassing protoss to keep them busy and from expanding too much).  3 Base Spire into 5 Hatch Hydra (vs. Protoss) | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
Also please don't bring wolf into the casting rotation, please  | ||
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imp42
398 Posts
On December 08 2016 20:10 chrisolo wrote: I mean I appreciate the effort he is putting into this and he has a good voice to cast a game, but it really annoys me, if he or Artosis talk about something they obviously have no clue about. [...] No one will be mad at you (at least I hope so), if you admit you haven't got a clue. Just by admitting they don't know the numbers in the game (and they did admit that) they show they have some catching up to do. While I agree with you I'm just glad we got 2 good casters coming back over from sc2. Also please stop praising Starcraft as the only real and best "e-Sport" out there. I think this might originate from something like a repeating joke from artosis and tasteless praising everything sc related to the highest levels. Between artosis and rapid it comes off a bit cocky because the history is not there. Lastly, please for god's sake, stop comparing EVERYTHING to SC2. Personally I am confident these comparisons will decrease soon. Right now we're in a phase where sc2 viewers need to be guided a bit in their transition to bw  | ||
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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
Game knowledge is still something I'm definitely working on and to a large extent things are still pretty new as the top pro-Broodwar players return to their highest levels. Right now I'm watching a ton of Afreeca streams and trying to piece together what's going on but if you have any additional insight or things you'd like me to bring up on air feel free to let me know. I still read almost every thread on TL and check /r/sc every day but if you'd like to get in touch or share feedback more easily feel free to send me a message on twitter! | ||
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DarkNetHunter
1224 Posts
He acknowledged that he learned the bit about Spire usage for ZvP now in + Show Spoiler [Day4] + Movie vs Soulkey final game and showing much better understanding of which players were at an advantage at which point. Keep at it Rapid, you're doing great! Overall the casting is much better from both of them since Day1. Edit: Wooooo hi Rapid! Glad to see you're reading this and we'll try and give you more helpful feedback so you can improve on the game knowledge front! | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1680 Posts
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