I think he's quite talented at what he does. He has a good voice, energy, humor and better game knowledge than the average play by play commentator in other eSports. He is very excitable and passionate about the game. He doesn't take himself too seriously and isn't afraid to poke fun at himself. I think we are quite fortunate to have him!
Him and Artosis have been building some nice synergy, and it's been very nice to have him when Tasteless isn't available.
I know some of the more hardcore crowd prefer Korean casting or other commentators, but I think he's doing a really good job. Definitely check out the English stream if you haven't already.
hes got the right energy and mindset for the job, game knowledge can expand with passion and research, the latter of which we can all provide here in TL.
RAPiD for the win! All day every day! Guy is really passionate about BW. That's the hero we all needed who brings the real hype. Hope to see him never go away. I would be glad if we got another league going on where ASL is casted by Tastosis and another one by Wolf and Rapid.
On December 06 2016 22:31 outscar wrote: "...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even thank David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid.
Despite both Tastosis and Rapid still lacking quite a bit of current game knowledge I'm enjoying the casts as well.
I really appreciate that Rapid and Artosis are translating the player interviews as that was always something you couldn't get if you just watched korean vods.
"Medics die like trashbags full of tomato sauce" - Rapid
Probably won't get the reference across since ifs pretty niche, but Rapid is the Lord Emvee of Starcraft. He's seriously got Ee Han Timing on his jokes, and oh man, the puns, the puns...
On December 07 2016 11:24 CrayonPopChoa wrote: I cringe every time he assumes mutas when a zerg drops a spire vs toss
This is the main problem with the cast. If they would spend some time brushing up on the strategies, it would be pretty good casts. They clearly have deep knowledge about some things, so this would take the painful moments away.
We could create a thread for Artosis and Rapid, updating them on the current "meta". I'm just posting very simple stuff but we can make this as elaborate as we want.
For example:
Zerg Matchups:
1. Versus Terran:
12 hatch, 13 pool, 14 hatch, 13 extractor is the standard ZvT build order currently.
2. Versus Protoss:
2.1. Versus Forge expand:
Overpool, 14 hatch at natural, ~ 13 extractor, ~13-15 hatch at third (close-by or new natural) into lair is the standard build order against a forge expand. As soon as lair finishes, a spire for scourge.
2.2. Versus a 1 gate expand:
It is common to not tech lair, instead get a 4th hatchery and a hydralisk den first before teching to lair.
3. Versus Zerg:
12 pool, 12 extractor, 11 hatch is the most common build order.
The rock paper scissor game of ZvZ openings goes like this 12 hatch < 9 pool < 12 pool = overgas < 12 hatch (roughly).
I remember how much people hated him when he first appeared as a substitute on several sc2 casts, and the shit they gave him... so glad he stuck around. RAPiD SPAKULINGU!
Overpool, 14 hatch at natural, ~ 13 extractor, ~13-15 hatch at third (close-by or new natural) into lair is the standard build order against a forge expand. As soon as lair finishes, a spire for scourge.
2.2. Versus a 1 gate expand:
It is common to not tech lair, instead get a 4th hatchery and a hydralisk den first before teching to lair.
We must just let them know that 3 hatch into spire with only 1 gas is not for mutas... they always think of muta when see spire in pvz. But they are fun to hear, even if they miss alot of thing going on in the game. I think they bring the fun side of commentating and finally I'm able to understand the interview with players, just that is so awesome that i don't care about they being wrong about BO or meta.
On December 07 2016 20:08 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: do you wait for 6 lings to make your hatch at the natural ?
2.2 is common to get ling speed first :D
No I don't wait, but I decided to write 14 in case the zerg gets pylon blocked, which I feel is a pretty common occurrence.
Yeah ling speed before the hydra den and 4th hatch. They also take drones off gas etc there's a lot of details I intentionally left out. It was just a short example after all.
Overpool, 14 hatch at natural, ~ 13 extractor, ~13-15 hatch at third (close-by or new natural) into lair is the standard build order against a forge expand. As soon as lair finishes, a spire for scourge.
2.2. Versus a 1 gate expand:
It is common to not tech lair, instead get a 4th hatchery and a hydralisk den first before teching to lair.
Do you mean 11 hatch at natural or am I wrong?
Sure, I just wrote 14 in case they pylon block. 11 is indeed the correct supply if you can place it immediately.
I think the way to get around the extreme amount of knowledge needed to cast bw (which cannot be gained by just reading few guides) is to comment the more strategical aspects of a game, e.g "this army is trapped", "his units are out of position to defend this drop and forces him to go back", "this attack seems to be more of a cover for his macro play rather than real threat" etc.
As for the commentary itself, I enjoy it, but as some other more experienced players it sometimes annoys me when he tries to cover the aspects of a game he has no clue about.
I mean I appreciate the effort he is putting into this and he has a good voice to cast a game, but it really annoys me, if he or Artosis talk about something they obviously have no clue about. Every other minute I'll have to facepalm, because one of them just says absolute incorrect stuff. I do not want to say that their cast isn't enjoyable, but please Rapid and Artosis do not act like you know about stuff, when you actually don't. Just tell the truth and say that you are not completely sure, because you do not play the game. No one will be mad at you (at least I hope so), if you admit you haven't got a clue.
Also please stop praising Starcraft as the only real and best "e-Sport" out there. It is simply not true (even if you do not like DotA, LoL etc. etc., they are beloved e-Sport titles). Why don't you say "Starcraft is one of the best games out there" instead of "Starcraft is the absolute best game, no doubt about it.". No need for superlatives, when it isn't backed up by facts. And as far as I know, liking a game is subjective and personal to every one of us. If you ask me, I would agree that Starcraft is the best and hardest game, but I do not like you guys presenting it like a fact.
Lastly, please for god's sake, stop comparing EVERYTHING to SC2. We know that you are primarily SC2 casters and that this is a good flow for you (gives you content to talk about, where you obviously know more about) and I could handle a comparison from time to time, but when you mostly hear SC2 unit names and spells in a BW cast, it is not bearable anymore. Why don't you tell the viewers what a science vessel can do, instead of making an obscure comparison to a mix out of SC2 Ghost and Raven. Just say "it has D-Matrix, which gives the unit 250 extra health for 60 seconds, it has Irradiate, which deals 250 damage to biological targets over 37 seconds and it has EMP, which is an area of effect spell, that causes the depletion of any energy from spellcasters and shields of protoss units.". This would not even be worse (actually I think it would be easier to understand) for the SC2 viewers. Such details might not be present to you, but it is not so hard to print out the description of every unit and spell and just read from your script. As I wrote beforehand, we know that you aren't that much of a broodwar enthusiast, it is fine, if you help yourself out in things you do not know.
This post might seem to be overly negative towards you and Artosis, but please do not take it as personal attack (if you even read this at all), but as constructive criticism from a viewer that would actually like your casting, if I would not be confronted by these three things all the time. I would not write this, if I only had that feeling after one cast. Believe me, I built my oppinion on several cast (this applies mostly to Artosis and Tasteless, but also to your casting). Overall, I have to repeat that you are a good caster and if you keep improving I will definitly keep enjoying your casts in future as well.
Just remember, for ZvP, 3 hatch spire for scourge vs corsairs, into 5 hatch hydra to deal with the protoss army and apply pressure/get map presence.
Mutas do not appear before this, but can appear after that, if the corsair number isn't obscenely high - specifically to snipe high templars, so that the mass hydra from 5 hats can wipe the protoss army that now has no storms.
Opening is usually overpool. The 3rd hatch is usually at another natural, so that the zerg can get a main for free.
To deal with early slow zealot attacks, you make speedlings and maybe a sunken. To defend from the midgame speedlot attack, you make a sim city with your 2 additional hatches, one on each natural, and an evo chamber - then add sunkens behind it (their number depends on the protoss build) and plug the holes with zerglings (hydras).
Depending on how the game goes and what map it is, sometimes players opt to turtle up on 4 bases with lurkers and static defense, until hive (while harrassing protoss to keep them busy and from expanding too much).
I think the cast is good. Rapid is doing a fine job for someone that probably lacks experience casting bw. Obviously neither him or artosis are really up to date on game knowledge but that's understandable, should get better with time. Also please don't bring wolf into the casting rotation, please
On December 08 2016 20:10 chrisolo wrote: I mean I appreciate the effort he is putting into this and he has a good voice to cast a game, but it really annoys me, if he or Artosis talk about something they obviously have no clue about. [...] No one will be mad at you (at least I hope so), if you admit you haven't got a clue.
Just by admitting they don't know the numbers in the game (and they did admit that) they show they have some catching up to do. While I agree with you I'm just glad we got 2 good casters coming back over from sc2.
Also please stop praising Starcraft as the only real and best "e-Sport" out there.
I think this might originate from something like a repeating joke from artosis and tasteless praising everything sc related to the highest levels. Between artosis and rapid it comes off a bit cocky because the history is not there.
Lastly, please for god's sake, stop comparing EVERYTHING to SC2.
Personally I am confident these comparisons will decrease soon. Right now we're in a phase where sc2 viewers need to be guided a bit in their transition to bw
Hey everybody, I just wanted to come say hi and thanks for making this thread. It's been incredible to get such positive feedback for casting broodwar and makes every day so enjoyable to be a part of.
Game knowledge is still something I'm definitely working on and to a large extent things are still pretty new as the top pro-Broodwar players return to their highest levels. Right now I'm watching a ton of Afreeca streams and trying to piece together what's going on but if you have any additional insight or things you'd like me to bring up on air feel free to let me know.
I still read almost every thread on TL and check /r/sc every day but if you'd like to get in touch or share feedback more easily feel free to send me a message on twitter!
Just watched the VOD and wanted to say really good effort by Rapid on improving his game knowledge.
He acknowledged that he learned the bit about Spire usage for ZvP now in + Show Spoiler [Day4] +
Movie vs Soulkey final game
and showing much better understanding of which players were at an advantage at which point.
Keep at it Rapid, you're doing great!
Overall the casting is much better from both of them since Day1.
Edit: Wooooo hi Rapid! Glad to see you're reading this and we'll try and give you more helpful feedback so you can improve on the game knowledge front!
Rapid, can you turn up your mic volume or get mic closer to your mouth next time because sometimes it's impossible to hear you because of stupid loud music.
On December 12 2016 04:08 outscar wrote: Rapid, can you turn up your mic volume or get mic closer to your mouth next time because sometimes it's impossible to hear you because of stupid loud music.
I think I can hear him fine, and the loud music is an essential part of Korean BW imo :p
On December 11 2016 23:19 rapidtransit247 wrote: Hey everybody, I just wanted to come say hi and thanks for making this thread. It's been incredible to get such positive feedback for casting broodwar and makes every day so enjoyable to be a part of.
Game knowledge is still something I'm definitely working on and to a large extent things are still pretty new as the top pro-Broodwar players return to their highest levels. Right now I'm watching a ton of Afreeca streams and trying to piece together what's going on but if you have any additional insight or things you'd like me to bring up on air feel free to let me know.
I still read almost every thread on TL and check /r/sc every day but if you'd like to get in touch or share feedback more easily feel free to send me a message on twitter!
Rapid is already a hero for solo casting TvT bo5, anything extra is always welcome. And his chemistry with Artosis is really good, I hope Tasteless stays on vacation or whatever for this ASL
Rapid is very nice to listen to. I thoroughly enjoy his commentary. Only Tasteless could be better at this point, unfortunately for Rapid that's precisely who he's replacing.
Thank you for your commentary Rapid, it's legit as f
He is cracking the sickest jokes, I laughed at one for minutes, sadly I can't remember it now. But he's so refreshing, it's a joy to have him around. I seriously don't understand Rapid haters. You are given free content wiht high quality video and fun for hours yet you still dare to complain and demand while having invested nothing. That's not how things should work, shame on haters.
Dear Rapid: great cast man, keep up the good work!
Dear Artosis: if you think that knowing the difference between a muta build and a 3 hatch spire for scourges on 1 gas, like a couple of users pointed out to you earlier in constructive criticism, makes those users 'BW Elitists' im honestly sorry for you. As a matter of fact every D user on ICCup knows the difference and can probably understand, why your comparisons bewteen roach pushes in Sc2 and different plays in Broodwar are inaccurate at best.
Also, use the reply function in the forum if you'd like to address those points, those guys would love to talk with you and perhaps have a way of answering when you generalize everybody who doesn't like your comparisons as BW Elitist.
Looking forward to see how you'll make more fun of us on that fine stream of yours.
On December 13 2016 01:55 Cele wrote: Dear Rapid: great cast man, keep up the good work!
Dear Artosis: if you think that knowing the difference between a muta build and a 3 hatch spire for scourges on 1 gas, like a couple of users pointed out to you earlier in constructive criticism, makes those users 'BW Elitists' im honestly sorry for you. As a matter of fact every D user on ICCup knows the difference and can probably understand, why your comparisons bewteen roach pushes in Sc2 and different plays in Broodwar are inaccurate at best.
Also, use the reply function in the forum if you'd like to address those points, those guys would love to talk with you and perhaps have a way of answering when you generalize everybody who doesn't like your comparisons as BW Elitist.
Looking forward to see how you'll make more fun of us on that fine stream of yours.
Huh I thought that was clearly a joke? I never had the feeling that he was angry at the guys in the forum or that he thought that he doesn't need to take the critique to heart?
On December 13 2016 01:55 Cele wrote: Looking forward to see how you'll make more fun of us on that fine stream of yours.
Considering that Artosis has praised the TL.net forums multiple times over the last 5 broadcasts I think this is just a dumb thing to say.
On December 13 2016 01:55 Cele wrote: Dear Rapid: great cast man, keep up the good work!
Dear Artosis: if you think that knowing the difference between a muta build and a 3 hatch spire for scourges on 1 gas, like a couple of users pointed out to you earlier in constructive criticism, makes those users 'BW Elitists' im honestly sorry for you. As a matter of fact every D user on ICCup knows the difference and can probably understand, why your comparisons bewteen roach pushes in Sc2 and different plays in Broodwar are inaccurate at best.
Also, use the reply function in the forum if you'd like to address those points, those guys would love to talk with you and perhaps have a way of answering when you generalize everybody who doesn't like your comparisons as BW Elitist.
Looking forward to see how you'll make more fun of us on that fine stream of yours.
Huh I thought that was clearly a joke? I never had the feeling that he was angry at the guys in the forum or that he thought that he doesn't need to take the critique to heart?
1. When JD pushed Mongs natural on Benzene, he did so to bait out a scan. This delayed the Mong to clean out the two lurkers on the cliff shooting at the mineral line even more ( youtu.be/PpNtpuMTcPM?t=34m2s)
2. Again JD pushes into a bunker line. It doesn't matter that much for map control if JD has 8 lurkers in front of Mongs base or 4. However he reduced Mongs bio enough for some muta harass. The ultimate goal of JD however was to get defilers. A zerg should always trade as long as he has enough lurkers left to hold marine runbys or hold a slow pushing tanks until defilers arrive ( youtu.be/PpNtpuMTcPM?t=2h27m18s
3. I'm not sure whether it was to hype up things, but JD losing his mutas was by no means a game winning move by Mong. JD has his third mining gas for free for more than 3 minutes already. That's approx 1500 gas mined. Losing those mutas did not matter since JD was is so far ahead at this point already. ( youtu.be/PpNtpuMTcPM?t=2h30m43s)
4. The hold here was actually decent for JD, since Mong has no sizable force to quickly push JD left (what he has to do at this point to do enough damage until defilers are out). JD "losing" this fight did not matter since he had enough defense to hold any push + 5 lurkers in the back in case Mongs forces would actually survive enough to fast push the natural of JD. ( youtu.be/PpNtpuMTcPM?t=2h32m4s)
Especially from Artosis, I wished he focused more on the stages of the game. For a zerg, the most important stages of the game is to a) secure his third gas with mutas. JD did this with a fast lurker contain, which gave JD 4 minutes and b) delay terran push enough until defilers are out.
JD did a) with lurkers instead of mutas this time. JD did b) with those "bad engages he lost".
They focus too much on unimportant stuff (Mong losing 5 marines to lurkers randomly, who cares), and never focused on how far ahead JD was with 4 bases vs 2. The objective of JD was to deny terran the 2 bases on the left. Artosis never focused on that goal.
Rapid is great! I hope he gets some time to play more games and get even better! Yes, a lurker is always killed by an irradiate lol... must be a protoss player.
Nothing against Rapid... but I just like BisuDagger's casts better.
BD's BW knowledge is already strong, and he comes across as very genuine and unfiltered. Now if he would just learn to shout into the mic less often...
On December 13 2016 08:38 [[Starlight]] wrote: Nothing against Rapid... but I just like BisuDagger's casts better.
BD's BW knowledge is already strong, and he comes across as very genuine and unfiltered. Now if he would just learn to shout into the mic less often...
I thought i wasnt yelling enough. This changes everything...
On December 13 2016 08:38 [[Starlight]] wrote: Nothing against Rapid... but I just like BisuDagger's casts better.
BD's BW knowledge is already strong, and he comes across as very genuine and unfiltered. Now if he would just learn to shout into the mic less often...
I thought i wasnt yelling enough. This changes everything...
Buck up. You're only behind Klazart in that dept...
On December 12 2016 21:33 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Rapid just said during Jaedong vs Mong game : "Artosis, tell me that Brood War is the best game in the world."
Rapid gets my approval just for this line Artosis is trying hard to not say BW is better than SC2 in several casts, it's a meme at this point :D But yeah I love Rapid's quick thinking jokes as well, the mechdonalds joke was hilarious. Some things he says/asks does reveal that he isn't that experienced with BW but who cares, it's completely standard to have an expert caster and a less experienced caster in any sort of sports broadcast. Missing Tasteless this season though, hope he comes back later on and maybe there could be some Tasteless/Rapid casts at some point as well!
On December 12 2016 21:33 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Rapid just said during Jaedong vs Mong game : "Artosis, tell me that Brood War is the best game in the world."
Some things he says/asks does reveal that he isn't that experienced with BW but who cares
Saying "who cares" won't stop people from caring, just because you don't. It doesn't make you right and others wrong.
On December 12 2016 21:33 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Rapid just said during Jaedong vs Mong game : "Artosis, tell me that Brood War is the best game in the world."
Some things he says/asks does reveal that he isn't that experienced with BW but who cares
Saying "who cares" won't stop people from caring, just because you don't. It doesn't make you right and others wrong.
Absolutely correct. But as we can see Rapid is caring about the feedback he gets. He improved so much between these three days of casting and the past three days. So satisfying to see someone taking criticism as a base for improvement instead of personal attack. Keep it up buddy, Rapid!
Say what you want about Rapid but as a complete BW layman he does a pretty good job of breaking down the game for me. Artosis even more so but we already know Artosis is God's gift to Starcraft.
I have to agree that Rapid is a great caster! His sense of humor is just epic (so was the Mechdonald's joke!). But that's not the only reason I really like him as a caster. Good voice, good knowledge (and what he doesn't know about he's trying his best to improve himself).
And for me, Artosis isn't as bad as some mentioned here. Compared to ASL 1 both him and Rapid (can't say anything about Tasteless here because of no casts yet in the current season) have improved a lot in terms of game knoweledge (of course that ZvP 3 hatch spire into 5 hatch hydra build might be an example against this but even that has been fixed ). And even the sc2 comparisons (at least in my opinion) have decreased a lot and I have to admit that this was an issue for me in the last season. I totally have to agree with crisolo here:
On December 08 2016 20:10 chrisolo wrote: [...] Why don't you tell the viewers what a science vessel can do, instead of making an obscure comparison to a mix out of SC2 Ghost and Raven. Just say "it has D-Matrix, which gives the unit 250 extra health for 60 seconds, it has Irradiate, which deals 250 damage to biological targets over 37 seconds and it has EMP, which is an area of effect spell, that causes the depletion of any energy from spellcasters and shields of protoss units. [...]"
All in all I really enjoy the Rapid/Artosis casts! At first, I was a bit sceptical due to last seasons "issues from a bw player's perspective" but glad both of you have proven the opposite!
Artosis/Rapid could you please convey thanks to whoever did the live translations of the group selection, really great and always so entertaining what the players choose to do!
On December 12 2016 21:33 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Rapid just said during Jaedong vs Mong game : "Artosis, tell me that Brood War is the best game in the world."
Some things he says/asks does reveal that he isn't that experienced with BW but who cares
Saying "who cares" won't stop people from caring, just because you don't. It doesn't make you right and others wrong.
Excuse me? Can I not express my own opinion? I never said I was right, I said I don't care about it because there's basically never two experts casting together in any sports event. This is an appreciation thread, take your grumpiness somewhere else.
On December 13 2016 19:46 Incognoto wrote: Say what you want about Rapid but as a complete BW layman he does a pretty good job of breaking down the game for me. Artosis even more so but we already know Artosis is God's gift to Starcraft.
The problem is that you THINK you're getting the game broken down to you. What's actually happening is that you're getting very limited information and insight that you would otherwise get from a better caster.
Rapid, I love your enthusiasm, but you can't miss something as basic as whether zealot legs have been upgraded. If a protoss goes robo before expand against terran, that's something you need to comment on. Missing the fact that a robo was being built until way after it has been completed is also less than ideal.
I'd suggest that Rapid print out the standard builds, and watch for deviations. Most buildings have animations when things are being upgraded, and you can comment on them. If a player goes for a quick +1, you know they're trying to hit a certain timing. If a zerg takes an early 3rd at a mineral only, you should suspect an aggressive timing attack.
On December 14 2016 04:42 raviy wrote: The problem is that you THINK you're getting the game broken down to you. What's actually happening is that you're getting very limited information and insight that you would otherwise get from a better caster.
At this point the goal of the casters isn't to give good analysis, but to get new people to tune in regularly.
On December 14 2016 04:42 raviy wrote: The problem is that you THINK you're getting the game broken down to you. What's actually happening is that you're getting very limited information and insight that you would otherwise get from a better caster.
At this point the goal of the casters isn't to give good analysis, but to get new people to tune in regularly.
On December 13 2016 19:46 Incognoto wrote: Say what you want about Rapid but as a complete BW layman he does a pretty good job of breaking down the game for me. Artosis even more so but we already know Artosis is God's gift to Starcraft.
The problem is that you THINK you're getting the game broken down to you. What's actually happening is that you're getting very limited information and insight that you would otherwise get from a better caster.
Rapid, I love your enthusiasm, but you can't miss something as basic as whether zealot legs have been upgraded. If a protoss goes robo before expand against terran, that's something you need to comment on. Missing the fact that a robo was being built until way after it has been completed is also less than ideal.
I'd suggest that Rapid print out the standard builds, and watch for deviations. Most buildings have animations when things are being upgraded, and you can comment on them. If a player goes for a quick +1, you know they're trying to hit a certain timing. If a zerg takes an early 3rd at a mineral only, you should suspect an aggressive timing attack.
This really isnt any different than some other casters who cast nowadays.
Just wanted to chime in and say thanks again for all the positive messages and feedback. Broodwar has always been something I've been super passionate about even when I wasn't casting it so it's been a dream come true to be a part of the ASL broadcast for the past two weeks.
I've gotten a lot of advice on improving game knowledge and learning more about different timings and matchups and I wanted to thank everyone who's reached out with helpful suggestions and feedback.
At the end of the day I hope everyone watching Broodwar feels the same way I felt when I watched my first VoD in 2006. I'm no Klazart, Cholera, or NukeTheStars, I've taken tiny little pieces from everything that I loved and hope that it all helps everyone watching love Broodwar just as much.
On December 13 2016 19:46 Incognoto wrote: Say what you want about Rapid but as a complete BW layman he does a pretty good job of breaking down the game for me. Artosis even more so but we already know Artosis is God's gift to Starcraft.
The problem is that you THINK you're getting the game broken down to you. What's actually happening is that you're getting very limited information and insight that you would otherwise get from a better caster.
Rapid, I love your enthusiasm, but you can't miss something as basic as whether zealot legs have been upgraded. If a protoss goes robo before expand against terran, that's something you need to comment on. Missing the fact that a robo was being built until way after it has been completed is also less than ideal.
I'd suggest that Rapid print out the standard builds, and watch for deviations. Most buildings have animations when things are being upgraded, and you can comment on them. If a player goes for a quick +1, you know they're trying to hit a certain timing. If a zerg takes an early 3rd at a mineral only, you should suspect an aggressive timing attack.
hmm interesting
Well it would be nice to have that kind of insight but personally I don't feel that I'm too in the dark when I watch games. At least not to the point where it's an issue, for me personally. I have a basic grasp of what's going on at least
It's really about what you appreciate in casting. Some think analysis is the highest priority but to me it's way more important that the flow of the cast is good and the caster sets the atmosphere the right way. In my opinion analysis should always happen after the game is done. (well some basics obviously already in the game, but anything which goes somewhat deep is better suited to be done after we have experienced the game imo)
With that being said, gj Rapid i enjoy your casting a lot!
On December 12 2016 21:33 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Rapid just said during Jaedong vs Mong game : "Artosis, tell me that Brood War is the best game in the world."
Some things he says/asks does reveal that he isn't that experienced with BW but who cares
Saying "who cares" won't stop people from caring, just because you don't. It doesn't make you right and others wrong.
Excuse me? Can I not express my own opinion? I never said I was right, I said I don't care about it because there's basically never two experts casting together in any sports event. This is an appreciation thread, take your grumpiness somewhere else.
Ouch, um, I really didn't mean to be grumpy. Only that when you say "who cares" you overtly dismiss and attempt to invalidate the opinion and feedback of others. It actually does inherently say that your are right and that others are wrong. It's very different from "it doesn't bother me", or "I don't find it an issue because x".
It seems wrong to say "who cares" when there are plenty of people right here who do care and are trying to be constructive with it. It comes across as more like an attempt to block out criticism, even where it's delivered helpfully and in perfectly good spirit. A bit like what you just did in response to me, in fact.
On December 14 2016 18:10 rapidtransit247 wrote: Just wanted to chime in and say thanks again for all the positive messages and feedback. Broodwar has always been something I've been super passionate about even when I wasn't casting it so it's been a dream come true to be a part of the ASL broadcast for the past two weeks.
I've gotten a lot of advice on improving game knowledge and learning more about different timings and matchups and I wanted to thank everyone who's reached out with helpful suggestions and feedback.
At the end of the day I hope everyone watching Broodwar feels the same way I felt when I watched my first VoD in 2006. I'm no Klazart, Cholera, or NukeTheStars, I've taken tiny little pieces from everything that I loved and hope that it all helps everyone watching love Broodwar just as much.
Cheers dude. The vast majority of us really appreciate your casting, and I can see that you've been putting in effort. Keep up the positive energy. If you keep improving at the rate you have been in the last week, you'll have the builds down in no time.
One thing thats bugging me out every time is how loud the korean voice is during the interviews. I can barely hear what rapid and artosis are saying. Can u tell sound technicians to either silence the koreans on your stream or u get you both louder during it so it doesnt become a sound mess.
On December 15 2016 00:09 _Animus_ wrote: One thing thats bugging me out every time is how loud the korean voice is during the interviews. I can barely hear what rapid and artosis are saying. Can u tell sound technicians to either silence the koreans on your stream or u get you both louder during it so it doesnt become a sound mess.
Gave the feedback to production and hopefully you've noticed the change!
Just here to show my appreciation for rapids casts, they're very enjoyable! The lack of knowledge hasn't been bothering me since hes made it clear that hes still a novice on BW and not acted as he knew everything Heck, maybe it's even better for newcomers to have a caster whose thoughts they can relate to. Theres been a significant improvement in his knowledge tho. Artosis + Rapid has been my favourite combo by far. Maybe we will someday get a triple casting by rapid+tastosis?
On December 12 2016 04:08 outscar wrote: Rapid, can you turn up your mic volume or get mic closer to your mouth next time because sometimes it's impossible to hear you because of stupid loud music.
I think I can hear him fine, and the loud music is an essential part of Korean BW imo :p
Exactly this, I can tell if a barracks is late versus zerg based on exactly when in one part of the terran theme it starts building
It's BW offtopic: Guy casted GSL ro8 and he made it so exciting for me, especially boring TvT with his infinitive jokes! Make memes coming Rapid! Hope you are casting upcoming ASL Team League as well.
Thanks for all the support everyone. I've really loved being a part of the Afreeca BW/SC2 broadcasts so I'm glad you all have been enjoying it as much as I have.
I'm always looking to improve and available for feedback so if you have any comments or suggestions feel free to post something here or send me a message on Twitter.
Nice solocast for today's team battle, rapid! You don't need to apologize or even think that your casting skillz aren't or so ... You're doing a great job and we all understand that solo casting is exhausting, considering you're really talking all the time (even between the games) which is just awesome. The entertaining is high! Good job!
i actually think u shine solo-casting ,ofc sometimes u can mistakes,and this is bw,to be honest sometimes u cant really prepare for the outcome of specific games cuz they are a hole new world.like that sea vs guemchi game,that firebat harass was something new for me :D
In yesterdays cast I noticed that you had started doing this annoying English error where you said "He does move his units." In English you don't need the verb "does" to explain that another verb is happening in a normal sentence.
On February 26 2017 20:34 Heartland wrote: In yesterdays cast I noticed that you had started doing this annoying English error where you said "He does move his units." In English you don't need the verb "does" to explain that another verb is happening in a normal sentence.
You can use it, though, to stress the fact that he's using something. "He shouldn't move his units so he can block the runby. Oh, but he does move his units."
Really nice cast again with Wolf. Like I said on page 1 "It would be glad if we got another league going on where ASL is casted by Tastosis and another one by Wolf and Rapid" and today dream come true!
On February 26 2017 20:34 Heartland wrote: In yesterdays cast I noticed that you had started doing this annoying English error where you said "He does move his units." In English you don't need the verb "does" to explain that another verb is happening in a normal sentence.
You can use it, though, to stress the fact that he's using something. "He shouldn't move his units so he can block the runby. Oh, but he does move his units."
Yes, which is why I said a normal sentence ; ) I'm not talking about the need to stress something as a reply to a previous statement or a question but just putting it in randomly in sentences. It's crept into how a lot of casters speak and it is very annoying.
On February 26 2017 20:34 Heartland wrote: In yesterdays cast I noticed that you had started doing this annoying English error where you said "He does move his units." In English you don't need the verb "does" to explain that another verb is happening in a normal sentence.
You can use it, though, to stress the fact that he's using something. "He shouldn't move his units so he can block the runby. Oh, but he does move his units."
Yes, which is why I said a normal sentence ; ) I'm not talking about the need to stress something as a reply to a previous statement or a question but just putting it in randomly in sentences. It's crept into how a lot of casters speak and it is very annoying.
I tried to pay attention during the cast and i did (xD) notice a few cases, yes. But lucky me, it doesn't annoy me at all^^
Didn't know what to expect after hearing Tasteless would be off to a friend's wedding. Rapid was great! Really enjoyed the semi-finals casts with him and Artosis.
the game knowledge is just so lacking. color wise, i think he's okay, but there's really a lack of game knowledge and he delivers wrong statements with confidence, which has to be the worst possible thing to hear as a fan.
It took some time to get used to his voice (he has a really high pitched voice), but I've started to enjoy his one liners. I just wish he was more knowledgeable about the game, like that time he said that Charon Boosters were in the armory.
On May 29 2017 06:13 RWLabs wrote: It took some time to get used to his voice (he has a really high pitched voice), but I've started to enjoy his one liners. I just wish he was more knowledgeable about the game, like that time he said that Charon Boosters were in the armory.
Or recently when both rapid (and I think wolf?) said that burrowed drones are not protected from eraser... I mean, I really like rapid and wolf but I have the feeling that their game knowledge has decreased the past few weeks?
On May 29 2017 00:04 ldv wrote: the game knowledge is just so lacking. color wise, i think he's okay, but there's really a lack of game knowledge and he delivers wrong statements with confidence, which has to be the worst possible thing to hear as a fan.
Yep. I'm pretty much okay with Rapid overall, but I agree that's painful to listen to. I find Wolf is even worse in that regard. Rapid has picked up some stuff from watching and casting alot with Artosis, but Wolf doesn't seem to know BW well at all...and I've seen him try to disagree with Rapid on something where he (Wolf) is just blatantly wrong. I've literally had to mute him a few times in this moments it's so frustrating to listen to.
I try to check in here every once in a while, and just wanted to say thanks for the feedback and keep it coming! I've definitely learned a lot since I started casting Broodwar again and I'm sure there's a lot that I and everyone else have to learn. Heading out to cast the SSL Classic Playoffs so make sure to watch that @ http://www.e-sports.tv/SSL_LIVE
On May 29 2017 00:04 ldv wrote: the game knowledge is just so lacking. color wise, i think he's okay, but there's really a lack of game knowledge and he delivers wrong statements with confidence, which has to be the worst possible thing to hear as a fan.
Yep. I'm pretty much okay with Rapid overall, but I agree that's painful to listen to. I find Wolf is even worse in that regard. Rapid has picked up some stuff from watching and casting alot with Artosis, but Wolf doesn't seem to know BW well at all...and I've seen him try to disagree with Rapid on something where he (Wolf) is just blatantly wrong. I've literally had to mute him a few times in this moments it's so frustrating to listen to.
Wolf is well known for making wrong statements. Don't know if it's just the general confusion of casting several different games at once, but it's sometimes painful listening to his analysis because he ought to know better by now.
As for Rapid, I love his upbeat banter and demeanor. I think everyone can agree his one weakness is lack of game knowledge, but he's consistently working on it. He's also doing quite a bit of community casting as well, so he's working really hard to improve his knowledge of the game and his ability to commentate on the fly. As long as he gets to stay focused, he can be one of the best casters out there in a year or two.
Enjoyed the cast for ASL semi-finals 2, I think you really did well this time around Rapid. Dropping some knowledge on Artosis with the Iris map analysis haha
Thanks for the translations as well and I'm looking forward to more casts
On May 29 2017 00:04 ldv wrote: the game knowledge is just so lacking. color wise, i think he's okay, but there's really a lack of game knowledge and he delivers wrong statements with confidence, which has to be the worst possible thing to hear as a fan.
Yep. I'm pretty much okay with Rapid overall, but I agree that's painful to listen to. I find Wolf is even worse in that regard. Rapid has picked up some stuff from watching and casting alot with Artosis, but Wolf doesn't seem to know BW well at all...and I've seen him try to disagree with Rapid on something where he (Wolf) is just blatantly wrong. I've literally had to mute him a few times in this moments it's so frustrating to listen to.
I agree that Wolf says incorrect things about the players and their history, but at least Wolf tries to be analytical and i think he has gotten a good feel for the game. He has a calm voice and demeanor which is relaxing and i like that. I actually really like him. Good job Wolf.
Rapid: Just wanted to tell you that you did a great job casting the ASL Finals! You really pulled out your A-game and kept up the hype and energy. I really enjoyed the vibe you brought to what was an already amazing finals.
On October 28 2018 18:19 BLinD-RawR wrote: I can definitely feel like there will be some criticism coming into this thread now that its been bumped, please keep it constructive.
don't jinx it!
I really enjoyed today's cast. Maybe it was just that the games were so damn hype but nothing in the cast super jumped out at me except the occasional name mixup, and that happens to the best of them. Maybe there were a few choices in game 3 you could have talked about in more depth. Good calls, reasonably relevant info. Sounds like you guys were having fun and that's what matters. Great games!
I especially loved the part at the end, where Noregret is like "and if you enjoy sc2, there's this tournament happening" and Rapid just goes "well, this is all the time we have for today" LOL
Seriously though, really enjoyed todays cast! I could also feel Noregret getting more and more into BW. GJ both of you <3
Rapid and Noregret did an amazing job today. Rapid the amount of hype you have is just far beyond that of any other English caster, you're a korean caster born in the wrong body :D
On October 28 2018 20:17 Qikz wrote: Rapid and Noregret did an amazing job today. Rapid the amount of hype you have is just far beyond that of any other English caster, you're a korean caster born in the wrong body :D
I second that. Plus I feel like Noregret and Rapid both add an unique view of the game to the cast.
Absolutely, Rapid and Noregret did an amazing job.
Rapid wears his heart on his sleeve, and I respect that so much.
Rapid, your passion and love for BW is so clear, and you bring it to your casts, you're able to transmit it through to the viewers, and your hype is infectious! What more could you ask from a commentator.
On October 28 2018 20:37 VioleTAK wrote: Absolutely, Rapid and Noregret did an amazing job.
Rapid wears his heart on his sleeve, and I respect that so much.
Rapid, your passion and love for BW is so clear, and you bring it to your casts, you're able to transmit it through to the viewers, and your hype is infectious! What more could you ask from a commentator.
Thank you for all your work, Rapid and Noregret.
Real VioleTAK? Your channel and jon747 defined Esports to me. It's where I watched every English VoD when I first found competitive SC. Thanks for all the great memories.
As said elsewhere, Rapid did his best BW cast of all time last night. I hope he keeps playing BW so that his game knowledge gets stronger, but it is very clearly improving as is his knowledge about BW's history and overall casting skill. With such an epic finals, it would have been a true disaster if the casting was bad (becausae this match will be watched on youtube for many years to come), but that's not a problem here.
Rapid did his homework in terms of looking at the history and the stats, but he still got a several things wrong due to lack of game knowledge (infestor aside), and even NoRegret caught it and corrected him gently. NoRegret had his fair share of factually wrong statements but it's an overall improvement at least.
And most importantly, they didn't ramble on about SC2 this time.
I totally forgot this thread existed. I still think Rapid still needs to learn a lot from Tastosis and about the game so that he can sound more confident, but I did post this in the ASL finals LR thread:
On October 29 2018 03:06 IntoTheEmo wrote: Rapid definitely stepped up his game for the final. Less blind assumptions/"filler" talk compared to when he casted with Artosis - very good effort to call out the bulids and echoing what the observer was showing. NoRegret did his job to keep Rapid on track and even though he's an SC2 guy, he can still sense shifts in the game and point out stuff Rapid missed. I thought it was a little touching that Rapid mentioned watching the KA S1 OSL final and never thinking he'd be casting the very same matchup 8 years later. You can't not admire a nerd fulfilling his dreams. We're all living vicariously through him in that regard.
Keep working on it. It's easy to see that Rapid follows TL a lot from the topics he brings up, so it's almost like he's a representation of a TL fan getting the opportunity to cast his favourite esport from within the motherland itself. I'm rootin for ya.
On October 29 2018 03:22 IntoTheEmo wrote: I totally forgot this thread existed. I still think Rapid still needs to learn a lot from Tastosis and about the game so that he can sound more confident, but I did post this in the ASL finals LR thread:
On October 29 2018 03:06 IntoTheEmo wrote: Rapid definitely stepped up his game for the final. Less blind assumptions/"filler" talk compared to when he casted with Artosis - very good effort to call out the bulids and echoing what the observer was showing. NoRegret did his job to keep Rapid on track and even though he's an SC2 guy, he can still sense shifts in the game and point out stuff Rapid missed. I thought it was a little touching that Rapid mentioned watching the KA S1 OSL final and never thinking he'd be casting the very same matchup 8 years later. You can't not admire a nerd fulfilling his dreams. We're all living vicariously through him in that regard.
Keep working on it. It's easy to see that Rapid follows TL a lot from the topics he brings up, so it's almost like he's a representation of a TL fan getting the opportunity to cast his favourite esport from within the motherland itself. I'm rootin for ya.
Very well written, I almost felt emotional reading it
Very nice casting in the game. You really improve and it showed a lot in the ASL finals.
A nice balance of knowing the BW limits, with a lot of good hype(!) during the tense moments of the games and most importantly, this casting really showed your passion for this game. Genuinely enjoyed this cast! Keep it up!
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
If I had a dollar for every time Artosis talks about spine/spore crawlers in a BW cast... Well, I wouldn't be rich, but I'd buy myself a new mouse for sure.
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
That was funny but otherwise it was an excellent cast, I thought he made the games more exciting where in some moments they were one-sided
He missed some strategical ideas such as the bunker fake expand, but let's be honest, Tasteless would not have caught those either, Artosis is the only caster with deep knowledge of the game
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
That was funny but otherwise it was an excellent cast, I thought he made the games more exciting where in some moments they were one-sided
He missed some strategical ideas such as the bunker fake expand, but let's be honest, Tasteless would not have caught those either, Artosis is the only caster with deep knowledge of the game
Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
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Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
There is absolutely no point in overhyping an obviously done game like this, though. This irritate me quite a bit...
I really second Sabbath and JieXian in this one, although I appreciate the hype and the love for the sport, I do think both Rapid and Noregret should have deeper knowledge of the game, meta, bo's and strategies, they are really lacking in that department. I think it's adecuate to ask for more here, after all they are professionals and they are getting paid to cast a major event finals, lets not forget that. Following that I must say I'm very surprised about some people beeing 100% satisfied and so thrilled about Rapid and Noregret adding a "unique view of the game to the cast", I really feel they are two rookies (don't mean to trash them, i like the guys and I want them to stay and keep getting better) watching the game and missing many little detail that is not in plain sight.
1 example: Am I the only one realising that in Circuit Breakers the Mole Zerg early aggression was so heavy, it disrupted Flash's BO to such extent that by the time he HAD to push Effort's 3rd he had Vessels and Tank but no Academy, but because he is Flash and knew how bad he got cornered and that the time was right there and not later, he did it anyway???. I think it was min 10 of the game, Terran was pushing Zerg with Marine, Vessel, Tank, but no medics and no stim (!!!!!). A pro caster CANNOT miss that, that is major crazyness goin on in the finals stage, that is BO warfare going so further players are beeing forced to play off the script big time, that happening in a finals make me wanna start jumping on my chair and scream to the players like a fucking hooligan. Again, no disrespect, don't mean to trash, I'm just setting the standars high, because I'm BW player, overlooking details is not in my nature. Go Rapid and go Noregret! please keep that hype and love for the sport you have and continue to deep you knowledge about the game, you need to keep learning! Also I really miss Artosis, to me he is the foreign comentator bonjwa, so smart, so attentive, he is the best, I love you man! (L)
The voices of Rapid and Regret were low in the latest finals' cast. Volume should've been tuned on Afreeca's end, but from what I caught, they did miss some key moments. Having said that, I kinda tuned them out unintentionally as I was watching the vods, and absorbed in the moment. Other than that, keep working hard, and build up your game knowledge because that's when the game really opens up.
On October 30 2018 03:35 LocoBolon wrote: 1 example: Am I the only one realising that in Circuit Breakers the Mole Zerg early aggression was so heavy, it disrupted Flash's BO to such extent that by the time he HAD to push Effort's 3rd he had Vessels and Tank but no Academy, but because he is Flash and knew how bad he got cornered and that the time was right there and not later, he did it anyway???. I think it was min 10 of the game, Terran was pushing Zerg with Marine, Vessel, Tank, but no medics and no stim (!!!!!). A pro caster CANNOT miss that, that is major crazyness goin on in the finals stage, that is BO warfare going so further players are beeing forced to play off the script big time, that happening in a finals make me wanna start jumping on my chair and scream to the players like a fucking hooligan.
Yes, that part was crazy. It's the kind of move I'd pull when I feel like I must do something because I'm in a "bad" spot haha. The mining of the path to prevent reinforcements was also pretty cool to see. Small details like that get missed all the time, but they are really important and can be a game decider. After all, if those lings never made it down, Flash would've done a lot more damage to that third, and would've won the game sooner imo.
On October 30 2018 05:37 BigFan wrote: Yes, that part was crazy. It's the kind of move I'd pull when I feel like I must do something because I'm in a "bad" spot haha. The mining of the path to prevent reinforcements was also pretty cool to see. Small details like that get missed all the time, but they are really important and can be a game decider. After all, if those lings never made it down, Flash would've done a lot more damage to that third, and would've won the game sooner imo.
Totally agree, when ton of experience with perfect mechanics are facing each other it's all about the details. For example when Action is pretending to be playing a normal game vs Light, he was faking intentions to take the 3rd (or mb was a 4th, dont remember) showing Light the drone while he was actually preparing a KO move in the form of a proxy nydus: every time he saw Light army going back home he would show drone and even start hatch, instantly and unavoidably luring Light atention wich reflected so clearly in his army movement, getting the focus away from the actually important part of the map, that detail was as important as the proxy itself, without that it would have failed almost 100%.
Anyway, I even noticed Rapid has problems differentiating an overpool from a 9p and similar stuff. Man, if you are reading this please don't take it personally, I'm not trying to shit on you, I genuinely like you, I love to have you around, I just think that as a caster you are far from awesome and I want you to be awesome. Same with Noregret, the guy has the tool set, he is a smartguy, he clearly has the progamer brain, but if he's getting paid to cast a finals he needs to take it a little further. I know this can't be done overnight but go for it, next to you you have an awesome caster named Artosis, that is where you should aim in my opinion. Hwaiting
After you get used to his puns, Rapid's actually pretty neat to listen to. However, I do feel like his enthusiasm can be overloaded at times, leading him to make some baffling mistakes. Getting the players/buildings mixed up despite the different races, and falsely calling Effort's first game an all-in despite the spire.
Personally I feel like he should be in a trio with Tatosis, like how Koreans cast in threes.
On October 30 2018 05:37 BigFan wrote: Yes, that part was crazy. It's the kind of move I'd pull when I feel like I must do something because I'm in a "bad" spot haha. The mining of the path to prevent reinforcements was also pretty cool to see. Small details like that get missed all the time, but they are really important and can be a game decider. After all, if those lings never made it down, Flash would've done a lot more damage to that third, and would've won the game sooner imo.
Totally agree, when ton of experience with perfect mechanics are facing each other it's all about the details. For example when Action is pretending to be playing a normal game vs Light, he was faking intentions to take the 3rd (or mb was a 4th, dont remember) showing Light the drone while he was actually preparing a KO move in the form of a proxy nydus: every time he saw Light army going back home he would show drone and even start hatch, instantly and unavoidably luring Light atention wich reflected so clearly in his army movement, getting the focus away from the actually important part of the map, that detail was as important as the proxy itself, without that it would have failed almost 100%.
Anyway, I even noticed Rapid has problems differentiating an overpool from a 9p and similar stuff. Man, if you are reading this please don't take it personally, I'm not trying to shit on you, I genuinely like you, I love to have you around, I just think that as a caster you are far from awesome and I want you to be awesome. Same with Noregret, the guy has the tool set, he is a smartguy, he clearly has the progamer brain, but if he's getting paid to cast a finals he needs to take it a little further. I know this can't be done overnight but go for it, next to you you have an awesome caster named Artosis, that is where you should aim in my opinion. Hwaiting
I personally think that if Rapid slows down just a notch, and paid more attention to something as simple as resources and supply, he can make even better deductions. After all, if your game knowledge isn't the best and needs work, you can't make those split second guesses. Everyone talks about Artosis, and his analysis. Anyone who's watched him will tell you that if he gets asked a question, he'll pause, go "hmm" then eventually give an answer. Something like taking a quick break to assess the situation, and deduce what's going on isn't a bad idea imo, but anyways, best of luck Rapid.
he is a nice play-by-play caster, but his lacking in game knowledge makes me wanna watch the korean stream, this in fact is not that terrible considering that Tasteless forgot everything about starcraft:brood war, keeps saying the same stupid shit over and over and doesn't even know the most common builds in competitive play, i mean.. he can't tell the difference between an overpool vs 9 pool and stuff like that.
Back to Rapid, one can see that he is passionate about this "new game" to him and the fact that he helps qikz with STPL shows his commitment to learn more BW, so all things considered i like the guy.
GJ Rapid & Noregret! I enjoyed the finals and the cast you two put together. Epic.
I've read some of the post's made earlier in this thread and the replies you made Rapid, I think you show a deep willingness to learn and improve. But I wonder, do you play the game a lot yourself? Or maybe you play sc2, but I think it would help to try to have "been more in the game" also as a 'player'. I know ofc that it would be completely "different" from the progames you cast, but you still get a better "sense" of how demanding it actually is to keep up With everything, and why Flash's APM is godlevel and all that stuff a player have to think about that is easy to miss watching as a spectator/caster. BO's, timings, positioning, map understanding etc.. Might be something to think about
But I want to say you come off as a genuine guy! Impressed With you not taking offense by ppl who post critisism and then they offer little content or arguments to why they dislike you in the cast. I don't post much but I read and I must say ppl critisizing you when they made their TL ID in 2017/18... well well However, there are posts in here that are very insightful that you could learn a lot from (goes for Tastless too)
To sum it up: Don't read too much into what everyone is writhing^__^, but plase cut the sc2 references in-game, play the game more, keep a good overview of current builds across all mu's and if you actully don't know what is happening or why at a particular point ingame just say so out loud instead of starting on an empty anlysis'
this applies to rapid, artosis and tasteless equally.
-please cool down the "incase you dont know how probes work" type hyper nooby explanations -sometimes you are telling a joke or explaining a build concept when some important event occurs and you try to rush to finish and then deal with the events, should probably do it the other way around.
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
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Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
There is absolutely no point in overhyping an obviously done game like this, though. This irritate me quite a bit...
I agree it was a bit much, though I think I'm less irritated than you are. I wouldn't have done it myself, and I think Tastetosis wouldn't have overhyped it, but man if my colleague were making an effort, responding with "naaaahhhhhhhhh" is just being a smartass, made much worse coming from NoRegret because he's am empty tin to start with. NoRegret should know his place and show Rapid some damn respect, because I certainly respect Rapid, despite his lack of knowledge.
That was funny but otherwise it was an excellent cast, I thought he made the games more exciting where in some moments they were one-sided
He missed some strategical ideas such as the bunker fake expand, but let's be honest, Tasteless would not have caught those either, Artosis is the only caster with deep knowledge of the game
Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
The only one mad here is you I guess.
They know they have to settle as a duo casters, they probably aren't as snowflake as some TL forum users.
Rapid's game knowledge is horrible. I don't know if this is unreasonable or not, but I get so frustrated every time I hear him incorrectly analyze something.
I try to not criticize casters (because I know it's a really hard job) but in this case I wish Rapid had better game knowledge because he is actually a good caster. He brings great energy and excitement which is probably the most important thing.
I guess from his perspective there's no real point for him to improve his game knowledge in Brood War though. I mean, it's not exactly a popular game outside of Korea so there's not really any benefit for him.
Anyways, if you read this Rapid, thanks for casting the ASL finals =)
On October 31 2018 01:47 Li_Xin wrote: Rapid's game knowledge is horrible. I don't know if this is unreasonable or not, but I get so frustrated every time I hear him incorrectly analyze something.
I try to not criticize casters (because I know it's a really hard job) but in this case I wish Rapid had better game knowledge because he is actually a good caster. He brings great energy and excitement which is probably the most important thing.
I guess from his perspective there's no real point for him to improve his game knowledge in Brood War though. I mean, it's not exactly a popular game outside of Korea so there's not really any benefit for him.
Anyways, if you read this Rapid, thanks for casting the ASL finals =)
If you bring some specific feedback instead of just "Rapid's game knowledge is horrible" it would be much appreciated.
Let's switch to a more constructive and welcoming community.
OK I see this maybe be turning into free shallow overcriticism a little too fast and as one of the ones that pointed out mistakes I wanna make myself clear.
Whenever I do something that requires skill I feel more comfortable with people feedbacking me what I did wrong or can improve than telling me how good I am, I tend to have that mindset both when telling and beeing told. BW as many many other things are a lot about that imo.
So, to Rapid and Noregret, when I read people having epiphanies about your insight of the game I scratched my head, specially when you missed some funny details like the no-medic push at min 10 of a pro game, or the fact that spores would almost auto-1shootkill-any vessel that comes near since 70% of them are already plagued. But lets be fair, I'm sitting at home and my brain is exploding with high quality Brood War and you are working and part of ur job is to talk non stop, so I imagine it would be easy to lost track specially with the hype of a final. Overall I do like you, specially Rapid, whom I "know" for much longer. You come as a good, enthusiastic, funny, guy and sure seem to put a lot of heart in what you do. I do think It's better to have two sets of caster than one and your improvement in the keenness department is notorious. But don't get cocky with the many people mesmerized with the analisys of the game. There are some of us who expect more keep the enthusiasm
Rapid casting KSL is like having gold leaguers cast WCS finals, with the addition of interrupting his co-casters to drop a cringy joke or entirely wrong analysis. Just play a ladder game once a week and you'll improve
Okay, so this has sort of been half of an 'appreciate rapid thread' and half of a 'criticize rapid thread' and I think I'm one of the people guilty using it for the latter, but it's easy to use the thread what it was meant for now.
Great job lately RAPiD, you've improved your casting so much it's actually incredible. I enjoy your commentary a lot now. Keep up the great work man.
I used to be very critical of rapid when i first started following ASL recently but lately that feeling is gone... Still its a hard job and I cant really judge the guy for being extra polarized or alittle ridiculous at awkward times...I aswell appreciate rapid now!!!
BUT Gcleff... DUDE SINCE DAY1 hes been phenomenal. The past few KSLs where he's commentated he has done a great job and is a great counter perspective to balance the whole dynamic...
I a have Rapid Appreciation growing for Gcleff!! As a new caster, I hope he knows he's doing great!
Rapid vs Where Game 1 it was obvious that rain will hold ling allin but Rapid said that rain is pretty much dead... WTF Game 2 where goes 6 hatch and 4 exp. rapid is pointing out that it is odd there is no gas... rly? asking where are all protoss bases, when zerg blocked it with burrowed ling? oh... Game 3 inability to recognize zerg build... am i wrong if i say that rain from the beginig even after that "ling runby" were ahead? and rain was implying that rain is in trouble... analysis of third game was just terrible im already sick and tired of him and muting so no more pointing out why his understanding of game is really bad i think this was quite constructive
I see that RAPiD's game knowledge is getting better and better. It is always fun and pleasure watching you!
In another note surfed through first page of thread and is it only me or others also miss those old "cringy (like ppl say although I think they're hilarous)" jokes from Rapid? I think being waaay serious is also boring. Look how many jokes Tastosis are able to snuck and half of them aren't funny. Keep it up Rapid, relax and also be aware, watch resources, minimap, and don't forget to throw a joke!
On January 23 2019 21:28 outscar wrote: I see that RAPiD's game knowledge is getting better and better. It is always fun and pleasure watching you!
In another note surfed through first page of thread and is it only me or others also miss those old "cringy (like ppl say although I think they're hilarous)" jokes from Rapid? I think being waaay serious is also boring. Look how many jokes Tastosis are able to snuck and half of them aren't funny. Keep it up Rapid, relax and also be aware, watch resources, minimap, and don't forget to throw a joke!
Yeah he shouldn't try and be a discount Tastosis, the puns are part of the charm. The problem before was talking over the other two or sounding like he's making stuff up compared to what was happening on-screen.
He's learned to pace himself more and not force himself into an analysis/theorycraft he doesn't know much about - that's what the pairing is for - instead focusing on being the voice of your TL forum user, mentioning stats, trends, history - stuff Tastosis doesn't mention cause they enjoy living in the Nada era . For example, I totally forgot Modesty was a ZvZ sniper.
I will continue to say this forever and maybe it's my bias but Rapid puts in more effort than any other caster I've ever met. He looks up everything like stats and things like that to give the best possible information.
While I've always enjoyed Rapid, I was watching the ASL Group D last night, and man, I was really enjoying Rapid there - he was dropping some knowledge bombs that made me go, "Oh cool, I didn't know that."
I don't know if Rapid will read this, but if he does, I think he's doing awesome. Hope to see more of him in the future.
Yeah Rapid used to be legit horrible as a caster (not hating, almost everyone will agree with me). But is really good now. I didn't mind that Artosis didn't cast group D.
I really don't care about the puns, though I hope he doesn't go too overboard with them. The thing is that he is clearly a different person than Artosis and Tasteless. He doesn't have to try to be, it's just naturally true.
I love RaPiD, and I don't get why so many people are instantly turning off the stream if Dan/Nick are having an off-day. I actually really enjoyed the ASL s6 finals cast with RaPiD and NoRegreT, was a perfect mixture of insight and hype
Didn't think I'd be posting kudos to Rapid. But he did well. Initial cringe hearing his voice gave way quickly as I laughed at some joke he made. The rest of the cast, I wasn't even thinking about who the casters were. Nobody can replace Artosis, but that was the best Rapid cast I've yet seen.
On January 23 2019 22:57 Qikz wrote: I will continue to say this forever and maybe it's my bias but Rapid puts in more effort than any other caster I've ever met. He looks up everything like stats and things like that to give the best possible information.
Love you man <3
He doesn't even know the maps that are being played at times. Maybe he should focus on knowing the game he is casting before looking at stats.
On January 23 2019 22:57 Qikz wrote: I will continue to say this forever and maybe it's my bias but Rapid puts in more effort than any other caster I've ever met. He looks up everything like stats and things like that to give the best possible information.
Love you man <3
Nobody denies it, and its appreciated, but it was all about Rapid Knowledge of the game. Like many others said, he has improved a lot lately.
I generally only post on TL to complain about rapid but he was not bad last cast, keep it up its annoying having to switch to the korean stream just to watch ASL with sound on.
Rapid has improved a ton! ASL season 2 or 3 casts of his were not really good for example, but nowadays I think that his casts are really enjoyable. Keep it up Rapid! Season 6 finals were amazing, he showed some class there!
Keeps getting better and better. Rapid your build order knowledge and map meta keeps goin up. It's beggining to be a real treat having you casting the games sir, ty for your time and effort.
It's time to bump this thread once more. Out of this world casting of Corrupted Cup! Think everyone would agree. Thanks Rapid! And thanks for keep covering STPL and BSL tournaments in 2019!
There are already so many people who thanked Rapid on other threads or directly on twitch when he was streaming. But i agree "THANKS RAPID" you the man!!!
On December 07 2016 11:19 outscar wrote: RAPiD for the win! All day every day! Guy is really passionate about BW. That's the hero we all needed who brings the real hype. Hope to see him never go away. I would be glad if we got another league going on where ASL is casted by Tastosis and another one by Wolf and Rapid.
On December 06 2016 22:31 outscar wrote: "...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even thank David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid.
Well perhaps this is why this dude was defending him so hard in the other thread. Might not have been an issue with #metoo and more the fact that he was a genuine fan.
I think we should leave it up. It provides good context on who the accused individual was in the public eye.
EDIT: Maybe leave it up with a pinned message making it clear TL condones his actions.
On December 07 2016 11:19 outscar wrote: RAPiD for the win! All day every day! Guy is really passionate about BW. That's the hero we all needed who brings the real hype. Hope to see him never go away. I would be glad if we got another league going on where ASL is casted by Tastosis and another one by Wolf and Rapid.
On December 06 2016 22:31 outscar wrote: "...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even thank David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid.
Well perhaps this is why this dude was defending him so hard in the other thread. Might not have been an issue with #metoo and more the fact that he was a genuine fan.
I think we should leave it up. It provides good context on who the accused individual was in the public eye.
EDIT: Maybe leave it up with a pinned message making it clear TL condones his actions.
On December 07 2016 11:19 outscar wrote: RAPiD for the win! All day every day! Guy is really passionate about BW. That's the hero we all needed who brings the real hype. Hope to see him never go away. I would be glad if we got another league going on where ASL is casted by Tastosis and another one by Wolf and Rapid.
On December 06 2016 22:31 outscar wrote: "...10 terran, 10 protoss and 8 zerg. You can't even thank David Kim for that cause he wasn't around for BroodWar" LMAO! Golden words from Rapid.
Well perhaps this is why this dude was defending him so hard in the other thread. Might not have been an issue with #metoo and more the fact that he was a genuine fan.
I think we should leave it up. It provides good context on who the accused individual was in the public eye.
EDIT: Maybe leave it up with a pinned message making it clear TL condones his actions.
What he is accused of doing is independent of his casting acheivements (or lack thereof, depending on your opinion). Just like how matchfixing does not erase savior's BW acheivements, despite the fact that many personally hate him.
EPT
3 Base Spire into 5 Hatch Hydra (vs. Protoss)
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. For example, I totally forgot Modesty was a ZvZ sniper.
