On October 30 2018 05:37 BigFan wrote: Yes, that part was crazy. It's the kind of move I'd pull when I feel like I must do something because I'm in a "bad" spot haha. The mining of the path to prevent reinforcements was also pretty cool to see. Small details like that get missed all the time, but they are really important and can be a game decider. After all, if those lings never made it down, Flash would've done a lot more damage to that third, and would've won the game sooner imo.
Totally agree, when ton of experience with perfect mechanics are facing each other it's all about the details. For example when Action is pretending to be playing a normal game vs Light, he was faking intentions to take the 3rd (or mb was a 4th, dont remember) showing Light the drone while he was actually preparing a KO move in the form of a proxy nydus: every time he saw Light army going back home he would show drone and even start hatch, instantly and unavoidably luring Light atention wich reflected so clearly in his army movement, getting the focus away from the actually important part of the map, that detail was as important as the proxy itself, without that it would have failed almost 100%.
Anyway, I even noticed Rapid has problems differentiating an overpool from a 9p and similar stuff. Man, if you are reading this please don't take it personally, I'm not trying to shit on you, I genuinely like you, I love to have you around, I just think that as a caster you are far from awesome and I want you to be awesome. Same with Noregret, the guy has the tool set, he is a smartguy, he clearly has the progamer brain, but if he's getting paid to cast a finals he needs to take it a little further. I know this can't be done overnight but go for it, next to you you have an awesome caster named Artosis, that is where you should aim in my opinion. Hwaiting
I personally think that if Rapid slows down just a notch, and paid more attention to something as simple as resources and supply, he can make even better deductions. After all, if your game knowledge isn't the best and needs work, you can't make those split second guesses. Everyone talks about Artosis, and his analysis. Anyone who's watched him will tell you that if he gets asked a question, he'll pause, go "hmm" then eventually give an answer. Something like taking a quick break to assess the situation, and deduce what's going on isn't a bad idea imo, but anyways, best of luck Rapid.
he is a nice play-by-play caster, but his lacking in game knowledge makes me wanna watch the korean stream, this in fact is not that terrible considering that Tasteless forgot everything about starcraft:brood war, keeps saying the same stupid shit over and over and doesn't even know the most common builds in competitive play, i mean.. he can't tell the difference between an overpool vs 9 pool and stuff like that.
Back to Rapid, one can see that he is passionate about this "new game" to him and the fact that he helps qikz with STPL shows his commitment to learn more BW, so all things considered i like the guy.
GJ Rapid & Noregret! I enjoyed the finals and the cast you two put together. Epic.
I've read some of the post's made earlier in this thread and the replies you made Rapid, I think you show a deep willingness to learn and improve. But I wonder, do you play the game a lot yourself? Or maybe you play sc2, but I think it would help to try to have "been more in the game" also as a 'player'. I know ofc that it would be completely "different" from the progames you cast, but you still get a better "sense" of how demanding it actually is to keep up With everything, and why Flash's APM is godlevel and all that stuff a player have to think about that is easy to miss watching as a spectator/caster. BO's, timings, positioning, map understanding etc.. Might be something to think about
But I want to say you come off as a genuine guy! Impressed With you not taking offense by ppl who post critisism and then they offer little content or arguments to why they dislike you in the cast. I don't post much but I read and I must say ppl critisizing you when they made their TL ID in 2017/18... well well However, there are posts in here that are very insightful that you could learn a lot from (goes for Tastless too)
To sum it up: Don't read too much into what everyone is writhing^__^, but plase cut the sc2 references in-game, play the game more, keep a good overview of current builds across all mu's and if you actully don't know what is happening or why at a particular point ingame just say so out loud instead of starting on an empty anlysis'
this applies to rapid, artosis and tasteless equally.
-please cool down the "incase you dont know how probes work" type hyper nooby explanations -sometimes you are telling a joke or explaining a build concept when some important event occurs and you try to rush to finish and then deal with the events, should probably do it the other way around.
On October 29 2018 04:38 ne4aJIb wrote: he called defiler an infestor, lol
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Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
There is absolutely no point in overhyping an obviously done game like this, though. This irritate me quite a bit...
I agree it was a bit much, though I think I'm less irritated than you are. I wouldn't have done it myself, and I think Tastetosis wouldn't have overhyped it, but man if my colleague were making an effort, responding with "naaaahhhhhhhhh" is just being a smartass, made much worse coming from NoRegret because he's am empty tin to start with. NoRegret should know his place and show Rapid some damn respect, because I certainly respect Rapid, despite his lack of knowledge.
That was funny but otherwise it was an excellent cast, I thought he made the games more exciting where in some moments they were one-sided
He missed some strategical ideas such as the bunker fake expand, but let's be honest, Tasteless would not have caught those either, Artosis is the only caster with deep knowledge of the game
Yes he got several things wrong but, he tried hard to perform his role as a caster, to hype things up and try to make things interesting, and I think he did a good job in that regard.
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And while he was putting in the effort to do his job (OH WILL HE SURVIVE?!?!?!) like in the Transistor game, you have NoRegret "Mr Smart Ass" going "Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
Come one dude, you're bad at the game, at least don't be bad at the other things and understand your role. Do you think Rapid is that much of an idiot to not know when someone is probably going to lose? Rapid must've been so mad a him.
The only one mad here is you I guess.
They know they have to settle as a duo casters, they probably aren't as snowflake as some TL forum users.
Rapid's game knowledge is horrible. I don't know if this is unreasonable or not, but I get so frustrated every time I hear him incorrectly analyze something.
I try to not criticize casters (because I know it's a really hard job) but in this case I wish Rapid had better game knowledge because he is actually a good caster. He brings great energy and excitement which is probably the most important thing.
I guess from his perspective there's no real point for him to improve his game knowledge in Brood War though. I mean, it's not exactly a popular game outside of Korea so there's not really any benefit for him.
Anyways, if you read this Rapid, thanks for casting the ASL finals =)
On October 31 2018 01:47 Li_Xin wrote: Rapid's game knowledge is horrible. I don't know if this is unreasonable or not, but I get so frustrated every time I hear him incorrectly analyze something.
I try to not criticize casters (because I know it's a really hard job) but in this case I wish Rapid had better game knowledge because he is actually a good caster. He brings great energy and excitement which is probably the most important thing.
I guess from his perspective there's no real point for him to improve his game knowledge in Brood War though. I mean, it's not exactly a popular game outside of Korea so there's not really any benefit for him.
Anyways, if you read this Rapid, thanks for casting the ASL finals =)
If you bring some specific feedback instead of just "Rapid's game knowledge is horrible" it would be much appreciated.
Let's switch to a more constructive and welcoming community.
OK I see this maybe be turning into free shallow overcriticism a little too fast and as one of the ones that pointed out mistakes I wanna make myself clear.
Whenever I do something that requires skill I feel more comfortable with people feedbacking me what I did wrong or can improve than telling me how good I am, I tend to have that mindset both when telling and beeing told. BW as many many other things are a lot about that imo.
So, to Rapid and Noregret, when I read people having epiphanies about your insight of the game I scratched my head, specially when you missed some funny details like the no-medic push at min 10 of a pro game, or the fact that spores would almost auto-1shootkill-any vessel that comes near since 70% of them are already plagued. But lets be fair, I'm sitting at home and my brain is exploding with high quality Brood War and you are working and part of ur job is to talk non stop, so I imagine it would be easy to lost track specially with the hype of a final. Overall I do like you, specially Rapid, whom I "know" for much longer. You come as a good, enthusiastic, funny, guy and sure seem to put a lot of heart in what you do. I do think It's better to have two sets of caster than one and your improvement in the keenness department is notorious. But don't get cocky with the many people mesmerized with the analisys of the game. There are some of us who expect more keep the enthusiasm
Rapid casting KSL is like having gold leaguers cast WCS finals, with the addition of interrupting his co-casters to drop a cringy joke or entirely wrong analysis. Just play a ladder game once a week and you'll improve
Okay, so this has sort of been half of an 'appreciate rapid thread' and half of a 'criticize rapid thread' and I think I'm one of the people guilty using it for the latter, but it's easy to use the thread what it was meant for now.
Great job lately RAPiD, you've improved your casting so much it's actually incredible. I enjoy your commentary a lot now. Keep up the great work man.
I used to be very critical of rapid when i first started following ASL recently but lately that feeling is gone... Still its a hard job and I cant really judge the guy for being extra polarized or alittle ridiculous at awkward times...I aswell appreciate rapid now!!!
BUT Gcleff... DUDE SINCE DAY1 hes been phenomenal. The past few KSLs where he's commentated he has done a great job and is a great counter perspective to balance the whole dynamic...
I a have Rapid Appreciation growing for Gcleff!! As a new caster, I hope he knows he's doing great!
Rapid vs Where Game 1 it was obvious that rain will hold ling allin but Rapid said that rain is pretty much dead... WTF Game 2 where goes 6 hatch and 4 exp. rapid is pointing out that it is odd there is no gas... rly? asking where are all protoss bases, when zerg blocked it with burrowed ling? oh... Game 3 inability to recognize zerg build... am i wrong if i say that rain from the beginig even after that "ling runby" were ahead? and rain was implying that rain is in trouble... analysis of third game was just terrible im already sick and tired of him and muting so no more pointing out why his understanding of game is really bad i think this was quite constructive
EPT
However, there are posts in here that are very insightful that you could learn a lot from (goes for Tastless too) 
