EPTPSA: Korean phone verification to play Fish Ladder - Page 16
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pebble444
Italy2497 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On April 08 2016 21:14 Keniji wrote: Besudes the ridicolous idea that tl somehow responsible for a server. What would it even change? We have a totally acceptible foreign server with icc. The only downside compared to fish is the number of competition at the top foreign level (especially at non peak hours). If the server was tl instead of icc, koreans still wouldnt magically start playing on it. So it wouldnt change a thing. first sensible post to that subject in a while! Don't get me wrong guys, i'd love to see an active foreign server as much as anyone here, but Keniji pointed out well, what the structural of the foreign scene are atm and why you can't fix it that easy by just creating a TL server. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 08 2016 22:22 Cele wrote: first sensible post to that subject in a while! Don't get me wrong guys, i'd love to see an active foreign server as much as anyone here, but Keniji pointed out well, what the structural of the foreign scene are atm and why you can't fix it that easy by just creating a TL server. True. However, I wonder what the effect would be if foreigners couldn't use fish anymore but instead had to use ICCup. Would we eventually stop playing due to difficulty of getting games at high level, or would it become more easy to get high level games which would eventually inspire more players to come back to brood war and activating the foreign scene. I'm not sure, and it will be hard to test since foreigners will find a way to get on the fish server. A normal situation for me would be to first log on ICCup, try to find a game for a while and then turn to Fish if I couldn't find a game. Given that everyone will do something similar, the chances of actually finding games on ICCup diminishes, creating a bad circle. If done the other way around, as in: Only option is ICCup. EIther foreigners would try abit harder and longer, or start smurfing on lower levels. If they try harder and longer, it would be easier to get games over time as more and more people do this. | ||
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Me_ToKa
Bulgaria309 Posts
On April 08 2016 22:56 StylishVODs wrote: EIther foreigners would try abit harder and longer, or start smurfing on lower levels. That's why Fish got SMS verification... Same will happen with iCCup  It is something like for 9 D ranked players there is one who is above. ( http://starcraft.theabyss.ru/?status ) And yes it's so hard to find games early morning on weekdays... | ||
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
On April 08 2016 22:56 StylishVODs wrote: True. However, I wonder what the effect would be if foreigners couldn't use fish anymore but instead had to use ICCup. Would we eventually stop playing due to difficulty of getting games at high level, or would it become more easy to get high level games which would eventually inspire more players to come back to brood war and activating the foreign scene. I'm not sure, and it will be hard to test since foreigners will find a way to get on the fish server. A normal situation for me would be to first log on ICCup, try to find a game for a while and then turn to Fish if I couldn't find a game. Given that everyone will do something similar, the chances of actually finding games on ICCup diminishes, creating a bad circle. If done the other way around, as in: Only option is ICCup. EIther foreigners would try abit harder and longer, or start smurfing on lower levels. If they try harder and longer, it would be easier to get games over time as more and more people do this. From my perspective the most likely outcome will be just more smurfing and decreased skill over time. I don't want to wait 10min for a game as soon as I hit A- in the current system, so obviously I will just use the next account when that happens. Even if no one would smurf, the skill would still deteriorate because half the time is spent waiting for an opponent. On the other hand on fish the ladder basically starts at the skill level where ICCUP stops, so until you are progamer level you will get games at your level all the time. The best development in regards to games for higher skilled players on ICCUP are the good amount of ICCUP ladder tours which have been happening regularly in recent times. | ||
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
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Ishtar
Poland26 Posts
Is there someone who would like to give me an korean number? I know how it looks but we all want to play Fish so... If there is other possibility then pls point me to that option.... | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On April 08 2016 23:49 Cryoc wrote: From my perspective the most likely outcome will be just more smurfing and decreased skill over time. I don't want to wait 10min for a game as soon as I hit A- in the current system, so obviously I will just use the next account when that happens. Even if no one would smurf, the skill would still deteriorate because half the time is spent waiting for an opponent. On the other hand on fish the ladder basically starts at the skill level where ICCUP stops, so until you are progamer level you will get games at your level all the time. The best development in regards to games for higher skilled players on ICCUP are the good amount of ICCUP ladder tours which have been happening regularly in recent times. agreed. In my opinion, it all boils down to the small player base, making it hard for players like you to find suitable opponents in a reasonable time frame. The only way to tackle that problem would be, to bring more good players on the server, which translates to: koreans. With fish being very popular, there are little reasons for Koreans to use ICCup more. In my mind, it is a task for us ( as ICCup Admins) to create incentives for them to do so. (or any other foreign server, as it will struggle with the same issues) I have been thinking about that for a while now and do have some ideas, but we'll see. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States859 Posts
On April 09 2016 02:53 Cele wrote: agreed. In my opinion, it all boils down to the small player base, making it hard for players like you to find suitable opponents in a reasonable time frame. The only way to tackle that problem would be, to bring more good players on the server, which translates to: koreans. With fish being very popular, there are little reasons for Koreans to use ICCup more. In my mind, it is a task for us ( as ICCup Admins) to create incentives for them to do so. (or any other foreign server, as it will struggle with the same issues) I have been thinking about that for a while now and do have some ideas, but we'll see. can help with that. You can try to advertise on ygosu sites a lot. Many progamers and korean users still use that site to discuss about starcraft | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On April 09 2016 06:29 Shinokuki wrote: can help with that. You can try to advertise on ygosu sites a lot. Many progamers and korean users still use that site to discuss about starcraft Thanks! i will definitely contact you when i have time to put my plan into action :> | ||
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Bonyth
Poland552 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
I get it both when launching with mc64launcher and wLauncher, and it repeats every 5 seconds if I created the game myself and I get it only once if I join someone elses game. ![[image loading]](http://s23.postimg.org/lcacznl4r/wdetectormsg.png) I dont have korean letters installed so, but I'm guessing some of you might not aswell and still knows what it means hehe | ||
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TT1
Canada9992 Posts
so what do i have to do to get an acc? | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On April 13 2016 04:46 TT1 wrote: -_- so what do i have to do to get an acc? I played some Iccup, and then played some games vs a korean and was very friendly with him. Then after 3-4 games I simply asked for his help and he helped me heh. I guess you'll have to to something along those lines. | ||
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TT1
Canada9992 Posts
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On April 13 2016 04:42 StylishVODs wrote: So, I'm kinda new to Fish. Does anyone know what this msg means? I get it both when launching with mc64launcher and wLauncher, and it repeats every 5 seconds if I created the game myself and I get it only once if I join someone elses game. I dont have korean letters installed so, but I'm guessing some of you might not aswell and still knows what it means hehe wlauncher auto refreshes the lobby, that's what that message is | ||
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CfgosCuba
Cuba94 Posts
thanks | ||
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
Playing Iccup I don't have this problem, it's only for fish when using wLauncher. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6533 Posts
On April 25 2016 23:27 StylishVODs wrote: Hey, anyone know why my game freezes like every 15 minutes or so for a few seconds when playing fish? Playing Iccup I don't have this problem, it's only for fish when using wLauncher. i have this problem,i thought it was mcalauncher using wlauncher problem,it also happens sometimes my mouse cant click and need to press everykey to be abble to click again ... | ||
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