EPTI also recall going to http://www.entropyzero.org/BroodwarAI.html and trying that, but if I don't recall if they were any better than regular AI. Still seemed rather bad I think. It might be easier to use those AIs though.
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
I also recall going to http://www.entropyzero.org/BroodwarAI.html and trying that, but if I don't recall if they were any better than regular AI. Still seemed rather bad I think. It might be easier to use those AIs though. | ||
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ArmadA[NaS]
United States347 Posts
On February 23 2016 02:36 iloveav wrote: Apart from the negatives mentioned, CPUs dont have any lag, so you will be effectivly trainiing with lan latency. This might be bad if you then play few multiplayer games and get to the point where you expect your units to react faster than they will. Yeah I forgot to mention this. Single player has different latency than LAN. If you are playing vs a computer- you should select "Local Area Network (UDP)" from the multiplayer menu so your practice is basically the same thing as ICCUP lan latency. | ||
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gero00
16 Posts
 Of course I have read your suggestion to ask in simple question thread, and I will try to search a thread next time, but it turns out to be more of a simple answer thread at least, doesn't it. On February 22 2016 05:55 Scarbo wrote: I uploaded some build order maps here. They don't have opponents so you can test stuff without being bothered. http://depositfiles.com/files/i2c661m04 Thanks, btw I have also read one of your other help threads ( remember your name ;o), very useful (I didn't reply there) By the way: I have also read the other useful vs AI comments and your experiences, I appreciate it. thanks | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5529 Posts
On February 22 2016 14:48 B-royal wrote: 3. Get a proper set-up from the start. Use every option there is to increase your effective APM including F2/F3/F4 keys, control C to focus on selected units, have dynamic hotkeys to avoid having to scroll your screen too much,... Annnnnnd after 11 years of playing I have learned Ctrl-C. Amazing. | ||
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Scarbo
294 Posts
On February 24 2016 05:09 jimminy_kriket wrote: Annnnnnd after 11 years of playing I have learned Ctrl-C. Amazing. There's a lot more to it. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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LetaBot
Netherlands557 Posts
On February 24 2016 03:56 gero00 wrote: Maybe I will try custom AI later. Aside from joining a special server, what training maps from websites download can you recommend? At the moment I try finding stuff myself with web search engines, but that + testing takes time and it often links me to Sc2... I am happy I found teamliquid website, at least Of course I have read your suggestion to ask in simple question thread, and I will try to search a thread next time, but it turns out to be more of a simple answer thread at least, doesn't it. Thanks, btw I have also read one of your other help threads ( remember your name ;o), very useful (I didn't reply there) I have some BW training maps I found in various places. You can download the pack here: http://www.filedropper.com/trainingmaps | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
idrA wrote: nony became one of the best foreigners by doing nothing but choosing good builds and newb bashing 24/7 on iccup, just by focusing hardcore on executing perfectly. so yes, if you have the ability to force yourself to play a standard game and push yourself to keep your mechanics as perfect as possible regardless of your opponent, yes you can improve by playing vs computers(assuming you study good players and learn good builds to practice). yup this is pretty much perfectly true. but my use of the practice technique doesn't really apply to a new player. once i was already pretty good, like at least in the conversation of good foreigners, i worked on getting my mechanics better or at least equal to everyone else, and then would spend a lot of time figuring out exact builds (working on them vs AI was helpful for that). but i think for a new player, it wouldn't hurt to spend a little time vs AI to memorize his standard builds. after that, i think it might be a long time of gathering experience and knowledge before it's worth it to return to the technique And no, Nony didn't get good by practicing his timings in empty maps. It's how I went from a good foreigner to one of the best of my time. Every tournament where I got a good result involved the use of this practice technique for some key victories. | ||
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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
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shakigami
220 Posts
On February 22 2016 07:24 outscar wrote: Default Blizzard AI sucks, even average D+ players from iCCup can go and kill 3 opponents on normal map. Check out this custom AI's http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/46293-bw-ai-project-gosu-update Some of them decent and really hard. Maybe this won't help you with strategies but help a lot with macro/micro abilites because enemy gonna swarm you up pretty bad. After that you can go to Battle.net East/West (or even Asia which is a little bit harder and alive) and play billion games of BGH, LT or w/e you want if you can host. All players there are D-/D/D+ level, no high skillers but just playing for fun. When you feel you are ready after practice, maybe a month or so you can quickly start wining games on iCCup or even Fish. Don't give up pal. this thread linked to an outdated page without download link  can you reupload it? | ||
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gero00
16 Posts
clicking sends me to the website without /trainingmaps, so there's nothing. | ||
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LetaBot
Netherlands557 Posts
On February 28 2016 03:53 gero00 wrote: clicking sends me to the website without /trainingmaps, so there's nothing. Try this one: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=35833298105011126665 | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
On February 26 2016 11:28 shakigami wrote: this thread linked to an outdated page without download link can you reupload it?Who no link? There is a link at start, I copy/pasted: http://www.entropyzero.org/BWAI.rar Extract archive and follow instructions, it's really simple program. Also, if you read end of that page there are some other types of this, if you wanna try: On August 30 2015 02:44 toriak wrote: if u just wanna play different AIs, try this: http://sc.nibbits.com/assets/bwai-launcher/ On September 03 2015 11:53 Equalizer wrote: Below is access to version 1.3 of the launcher. I created the Accel T terran script a long time ago now. There use to be a number of us that would create scripts mostly to have them fight each other. (Their micro control is still the same as the Blizzard AI so other than being some what better at macro than the Blizzard AI they can still be exploited by a human player. If you don't use any exploits they can put up somewhat of a fight.) The website/forum where these AIs and other mods for SC:BW use to be is defunct (http://www.broodwarai.com/). BWAILauncher.zip (version 1.3) on google drive. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1caHHJaeFBkdnY4RlFFQzhEVDA/view?usp=sharing | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On February 22 2016 01:11 gero00 wrote: It's effective in a mechanical sense. If you watch vods and get a decent understanding of how the dynamics of a match up ought to work--which obviously the ai will not reflect in game-- you can use the ai simply to train your hands to move faster, hit all the timings for common builds and things like that. When I was a much worse player I used to use some more advanced ai scripts while trying to force myself to keep a minimum apm and holding myself to a certain 'bank' threshold. Like, keep my apm up to 100 and never go over 500 min/500 gas. It can only take you so far obviously but it shouldnt be undervalued. Hello, i'm "new" to this game and I wondered if training vs CPU is effective? what game mode can you recommend, 1v1, 1v2, 1v3 etc, a special map? to become a little better | ||
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