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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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iNcontroL
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On January 21 2007 12:04 Gokey wrote: FPS and RTS videos are completely different. Whereas in FPS you have much more "visceral" scenes such as rocket launchers, headshots, aerial flying, etc... In RTS most of the highlights are more strategical or micro-based. It's much easier to edit and compile "cool" Q3 scenes than for a 10 year old 640x480 RTS game... well you're right, it's difficult to make a 8 year old 2Dgame like starcraft look "cool" in a movie. but that's not the (only) reason why Q3 movies are superior to any SC movie i have seen so far. i'm talking about special effects, intros/outros, synchronization of music, dramatic elements, etc. the Q3 movie scene is (or was) pretty big and the makers of the best movies spent 100hours+ of editing. but i'll give some examples so you can decide for yourself: Defrag Revolution: http://files.filefront.com/defrag revolution/;3862771;;/fileinfo.html this movie is about runs in a Q3 addon called Defrag. the objective of the player is to reach the end of a complicated map in the most efficient/fastest way. this movie is sick. Tricking iT 2: http://files.filefront.com/sp tricking iT2/;3156182;;/fileinfo.html this is a Trick Jump movie with really crazy nice editing Annihilation: http://sysonline.hu/pafiledb/index.php?act=view&id=21 this is a classic Frag-Movie. the best/coolest kills etc. the editing on this one maybe not as good as on others, but i specially like this one because you can see how much of an effort was made to match the music with the scenes. love the outro too. the dls are pretty big, but i can assure you, it's worth it. if you never played q3, you may not notice how godlike these moves are, but it will still be entertaining. | ||
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Larva
United States363 Posts
On January 21 2007 15:50 Physician wrote: I am still waiting for an example of these "fantastic" quake movies... Didn't I say, ANY top DLed Q3 movie will do, ANY in the first page will impress you. You want to be impressed quickly? Watch "Badge 3" Q3 frag highlight. 7 minutes only, yet one of my favorites of all time. Amazing everything. Music was syncronized with frags and everything was pretty much flawless. Yet, SC movies can look very good. The Pimpest Plays movies never dissapointed me and always left me astounded by how the movie was well made and how the scenes were neatly put. Also, I think the first one wasn't organized from 15-1 or however it went, it was random, which I also liked. The movie didn't waste time and the music, editing, and especially the plays were very pimp. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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Larva
United States363 Posts
On January 21 2007 16:05 snowbird wrote: well you're right, it's difficult to make a 8 year old 2Dgame like starcraft look "cool" in a movie. but that's not the (only) reason why Q3 movies are superior to any SC movie i have seen so far. i'm talking about special effects, intros/outros, synchronization of music, dramatic elements, etc. the Q3 movie scene is (or was) pretty big and the makers of the best movies spent 100hours+ of editing. but i'll give some examples so you can decide for yourself: Cetus the Movie 2: http://files.filefront.com/cetus the movie 2 final/;3824730;;/fileinfo.html this movie is about runs in a Q3 addon called Defrag. the objective of the player is to reach the end of a complicated map in the most efficient/fastest way. this movie is sick. Tricking iT 2: http://files.filefront.com/sp tricking iT2/;3156182;;/fileinfo.html this is a Trick Jump movie with really crazy nice editing Annihilation: http://sysonline.hu/pafiledb/index.php?act=view&id=21 this is a classic Frag-Movie. the best/coolest kills etc. the editing on this one maybe not as good as on others, but i specially like this one because you can see how much of an effort was made to match the music with the scenes. love the outro too. the dls are pretty big, but i can assure you, it's worth it. if you never played q3, you may not notice how godlike these moves are, but it will still be entertaining. Defrag on Q3 is amazingly hard. After being very impressed (since I only played Q3 regularly without any mods) I tried Defrag, it was amazingly hard but very impressive. I could only finish some maps with horrible times while other people (especially from iT, Infinite Trajectory) can finish them in blazing times, which many of their members hold records in some Defrag maps I believe. EDIT: WATCH the iT Defrag clan movie, possibly my #1 or #2 pick of my favorite Q3 video. Flawless and the ending is pretty hilarious. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
http://www.own-age.com/search.aspx?in=videos&query="iT Defrag"&match= larva link will help, there is like 10,000 movies in that site // I searched it - can't find. Will check badge 3 I guess... | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On January 21 2007 16:26 Larva wrote: Didn't I say, ANY top DLed Q3 movie will do, ANY in the first page will impress you. You want to be impressed quickly? Watch "Badge 3" Q3 frag highlight. 7 minutes only, yet one of my favorites of all time. Amazing everything. Music was syncronized with frags and everything was pretty much flawless. Yet, SC movies can look very good. The Pimpest Plays movies never dissapointed me and always left me astounded by how the movie was well made and how the scenes were neatly put. Also, I think the first one wasn't organized from 15-1 or however it went, it was random, which I also liked. The movie didn't waste time and the music, editing, and especially the plays were very pimp. yeah, i like batch 3 too, the awesome classical music fits the movie very well. but i like defrag movies the best, i get shivers when i watch it :p pressure: watch cetus the movie 2! (dunno about the other one larva mentioned, should be good too) EDIT: i mixed that up, cetus the movie 2 is good, but what i had in mind was "defrag revolution" http://files.filefront.com/defrag revolution/;3862771;;/fileinfo.html watch that one:p | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
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Pressure
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Larva
United States363 Posts
On January 21 2007 17:15 EscPlan9 wrote: I just watched Cetus... I'm not a Q3 player so perhaps this is why I found it interesting for the first few minutes, then found it insanely repetitive and shut it off. The music was cool and I'm glad the MP3s came with the RAR but meh, how long can you enjoy watching rocket jumps and whatever-the-fuck-glowing-ball-gunning-against-the-wall jumps? Defrag or frag, Q3 movies bore me after a few minutes. Like it's all "ooh ahh" with some of the frags, but after a few minutes you've seen enough. I know they're all stuff I can't do in the game, but still very repetitive. You don't have you be, and the jumps are all different... I've pretty much seen all in BW. Even the permanent distruption web that caused a lot of "whoas" and "good idea" comments? I already knew that and my friend used it in a Phantom UMS just for fun. It caused a lot of creative ideas from me and my friends and we played for hours nonstop. My friend is a map maker and he does a lot of weird stuff just to experiment. He doesn't really have a community (www.staredit.net) and he just makes maps just for the Hell of it, although they are really good. Anyways, I play FPS and RTS, and I appreciated both movies, I'm just saying that SC movie didn't meet up to expectations. I have a lot of SC movies saved onto my HD which I believe is a lot better than the one with TF]pLAsMa. It's just my opinion, you can disagree or not. | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On January 21 2007 17:15 EscPlan9 wrote: I just watched Cetus... I'm not a Q3 player so perhaps this is why I found it interesting for the first few minutes, then found it insanely repetitive and shut it off. The music was cool and I'm glad the MP3s came with the RAR but meh, how long can you enjoy watching rocket jumps and whatever-the-fuck-glowing-ball-gunning-against-the-wall jumps? Defrag or frag, Q3 movies bore me after a few minutes. Like it's all "ooh ahh" with some of the frags, but after a few minutes you've seen enough. I know they're all stuff I can't do in the game, but still very repetitive. yeah that's true. but imagine you never played SC, doubt you would find any of the "pimpest-plays" pimp. i just watched q3 movies for 1 hour and never got bored. but let's just appreciate the time and effort spent into making such a movie (be it sc or q3). i think everyone can agree on that. happy happy! | ||
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Larva
United States363 Posts
On January 21 2007 16:33 Physician wrote: "WATCH the iT Defrag clan movie" < will check. http://www.own-age.com/search.aspx?in=videos&query="iT Defrag"&match= larva link will help, there is like 10,000 movies in that site // I searched it - can't find. Will check badge 3 I guess... http://www.own-age.com/vids/1329 That's the link to the page, which also links to various mirrors also. I just didn't want to give you the direct link just in case, but here it is anyways. http://files.filefront.com/iT DeFrag/;2143959;;/fileinfo.html | ||
KwarK
United States43210 Posts
All in all, I didn't like it. The effects weren't great and the scenes used were boring. I suppose he can only work with the games he's played, if he's not a great micro player he can't include that. But if those are the best examples of his play he could find then he should be making a movie about someone else. | ||
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Gokey
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
With BW movies you often find inventive ways of handling the situation and situations which require a great deal more micro and multi-tasking, so you can appreciate them more. Oh, but there's no denying the amount of effort that goes into these videos. And the usage of music to link up with the action is done better in Q3, although admittedly, it is much easier to synchronize with an FPS than an RTS. With an RTS you're not so much highlighting one kill after the other, so you can't have the music synchronize with every shot or kill or whatever. | ||
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EscPlan9
United States2777 Posts
BTW: I don't like Counterstrike. I'm a UT2K4 player and can't deal with the slow-paced FPS games. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
I just watched four of the mentioned fps movies.. they have of course 3d game engines in 1st person and 3rd person perspective that gives them more to work on..also in many of those movies they need multiple players to achieve them.. still as movie goes ..some are decent, some are bad, and all are just collections of game play clips - just like in our movies. For these reasons I too can say I have seen some much "better" and more entraining WOW movies, even though I do not play wow , than those q3 movies - but I don't cause to compare them is pointless.. Calling the movie "shit" is a good way to discourage people from trying at all to make movies, or even for its creator to bother next time. It was also terribly unfair since this movie is by no means "shit", in fact it is above average as our movies go. Movie making in our community is a rather recent activity too, and most of us here concentrate on playing, rather than being actors and/or movie making. Be thankful we have a few movie makers that even bother. BTW.. Staredit.net is a community in itself with over 2000 members, why dis SEN saying its not a community? And why bring to mention the concept for using permanent web in competition gaming in this thread? It was actually new to everyone. Of course many of us have seen them in UMS and guys like deathknight have even made waterfalls out of them.. but it had not occurred to any one to actually use them in a well balanced melee map, at the chokes, for competition games.. and that was what was new.. why dis the idea? And what does it have to do with this thread? And whats wrong with people going "whoa" and "wow" here at tl.net with a good idea? It's better than "oh I've seen it all" & this is "shit".. When you called this movie "shit" I was kind of expecting that you had indeed seen some glorious movies in other games. I watched a few and did not find this.. I gave you the benefit of the doubt initially but after watching the not so "glorious" q3 movies I have concluded your just an FPS crackhead discing our community & our movies. Had you been right I would have realized you had reason to compare - but neither did I see new ideas nor any gaming Spielberg.. | ||
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Yogurt
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