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Sonic Interview: "OSL revived, dream realized" - Page 4

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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
December 20 2014 19:03 GMT
#61
its fucking impressive what sonic has done. respect
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
December 20 2014 19:18 GMT
#62
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

Is CSGO generally considered an inferior spectator experience compared to CS 1.6? I'm not trying to start an argument but I'm not well-versed in professional Counter-Strike grief and I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that BW was more fun to watch than SC2. There are several reasons for this but it's beside the point.

Also, obligatory comment about slamball never replacing basketball and the artificial nature of the way Blizzard forced the end of professional BW.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
December 20 2014 19:28 GMT
#63
On December 21 2014 04:18 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

Is CSGO generally considered an inferior spectator experience compared to CS 1.6? I'm not trying to start an argument but I'm not well-versed in professional Counter-Strike grief and I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that BW was more fun to watch than SC2. There are several reasons for this but it's beside the point.

Also, obligatory comment about slamball never replacing basketball and the artificial nature of the way Blizzard forced the end of professional BW.


I think the general consensus on GO now is that it's the best CS yet. It had a rocky start but Valve really listen to its audience
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 19:33:38
December 20 2014 19:33 GMT
#64
Who could've guessed one mans vision and desire brought us to this point... He is an inspiration and that goes beyond a game.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8619 Posts
December 20 2014 19:41 GMT
#65
On December 21 2014 04:18 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

Is CSGO generally considered an inferior spectator experience compared to CS 1.6? I'm not trying to start an argument but I'm not well-versed in professional Counter-Strike grief and I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that BW was more fun to watch than SC2. There are several reasons for this but it's beside the point.

Also, obligatory comment about slamball never replacing basketball and the artificial nature of the way Blizzard forced the end of professional BW.


I personally think strategic wise GO is a better specating experience because of how the new grenades work. Wallbanging is so-so. I actually like both approaches. While 1.6's wall banging was ridiculous at times it also made up with nice skill display. For frags and clean view I think 1.6 is far superior for spectating. So in the end, both have their strengths and weaknesses and both are fine games and far superior to Source.

Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
December 20 2014 20:10 GMT
#66
Sonic!!!
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 20 2014 20:13 GMT
#67
Good for them.

I'm glad that BW has basically revived now, and has upward momentum behind it. It's certainly not going anywhere anytime soon, and may even reclaim its glory days, at the rate it's going. Good for BW, the game that wouldn't die, even when it was killed.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
December 20 2014 20:22 GMT
#68
Nice !! GL to Sonic and OSL! ! Wow Sonic's business is much bigger than I thought ! I'd like to get some of these shoes to support sonic !
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
December 20 2014 20:27 GMT
#69
I don't think it can be said enough times. Sonic is a hero!
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 20 2014 20:38 GMT
#70
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.


On December 03 2013 08:19 Hydro033 wrote:
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On December 02 2013 18:10 arb wrote:
ya blizzard needs to get the fuck on and stay away. they ruined BW in the first place promoting the shitty sequel. they need to stay out of BW unless they plan on reviving it.


You can just be realistic and realize that a game made in '98 wouldn't last forever...


i love how these are the two posts you've made in the bw section :^)
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 20:47:50
December 20 2014 20:47 GMT
#71
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

It's not that BW died on it's own, via a natural process of being replaced by the better game. In fact, Blizzard is solely responsible for the death of BW proscene, killing it so they can push the then-subpar wings of liberty.

Speaking of that, nowadays I enjoy sc2hots more than I do brood war. Not to offend anyone, but aside from 3-4 players, BW scene is really amateur when it comes to skill display.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 20:50:13
December 20 2014 20:49 GMT
#72
SuperSonic

<3

On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.


Just because a new game comes out doesn't mean it should replace the previous one... some people just like the older games better

(and lol "franchise"... who's to say that the growth of new titles in the franchise requires a competitive scene for those new titles?)
Writer
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11382 Posts
December 20 2014 21:12 GMT
#73
Hero Sonic!
So crazy to see how far this has come. So hyped to see where it's going.
The one esport to rule them all.
bw4lyf
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 20 2014 21:18 GMT
#74
Group selection ceremony in about 8 hours.

I wish I had some SBENU shoes.
Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
December 20 2014 21:19 GMT
#75
Holy fuck. I can watch real starcraft again!

Sonic is our hero, hands down.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5728 Posts
December 20 2014 21:33 GMT
#76
On December 21 2014 05:13 Ribbon wrote:
Good for them.

I'm glad that BW has basically revived now, and has upward momentum behind it. It's certainly not going anywhere anytime soon, and may even reclaim its glory days, at the rate it's going. Good for BW, the game that wouldn't die, even when it was killed.


What is dead may never die!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 20 2014 21:46 GMT
#77
On December 21 2014 04:18 lolmlg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

Is CSGO generally considered an inferior spectator experience compared to CS 1.6? I'm not trying to start an argument but I'm not well-versed in professional Counter-Strike grief and I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that BW was more fun to watch than SC2. There are several reasons for this but it's beside the point.

Also, obligatory comment about slamball never replacing basketball and the artificial nature of the way Blizzard forced the end of professional BW.

There are people who think SC2 is a better spectator experience than BW. The real point here is that I don't think we're not interested in progressing ESPORTS as a whole; rather, we're interested in watching BW. Maybe that makes us a bunch of curmudgeons who are stucking clinging to the past, I don't know and I don't care. What I do know is that this is awesome.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
December 20 2014 22:05 GMT
#78
On December 21 2014 05:49 ]343[ wrote:
SuperSonic

<3

Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 02:59 Hydro033 wrote:
Much like people clinging to SSBM in the fighting community, I think this hurts the growth of the franchise in all honesty. People finally started letting go of CS 1.6 and embraced CSGO and it's taking off like a rocket. All good things must come to an end.

Just because a new game comes out doesn't mean it should replace the previous one... some people just like the older games better

Yes, I choose to play 1.6, because it still has that sparkly feeling, despite being pretty broken. I stopped playing competitevely and following the proscene during Source, but the community has done so much to keep the original alive. The amount of active servers (even in my country and its neighbours!) and mods these days is truly heartwarming.

Too bad I didn't discover TL before 2010, but as a lover of all things Starcraft it was amazing to follow both simultaneously. I only hope BW & SC2 would co-exist and prosper in harmony.
don't wall off against random
muho-94
Profile Joined September 2014
23 Posts
December 20 2014 22:08 GMT
#79
By the gods, this is ill news indeed! I mean, this is s0o0o0oo CraZy!
HerbMon
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States467 Posts
December 20 2014 22:26 GMT
#80
SonicCraft !
How we will win in the period ahead.
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