On November 30 2006 23:12 ManaBlue wrote: I express my opinions in a very blunt way because I like being a smartass and I find it makes people react to them, thus starting a fun debate.
and it starts debates because its annoying and quite often stupid, not because its a cute little quirky personality trait or whatever you seem to think.
On December 01 2006 12:03 IdrA wrote: i have skimmed over most of your posts here however you implied that reach and stork are better/should be rated higher than ra. thats just retarded, and thats just this thread.
and stop whining about pvz.
You guys are starting to piss me off. I didn't imply shit. I said directly that seeing stork and reach suck makes me sad. I said nothing about their rankings.
If you find me overly opinionated, thats fine, but don't put words in my mouth.
I actually happen to like ManaBlue's writing. The blatant bias adds personality and he does provide a report of what's going on which is more than I can say for his critics. If you're able to actually provide a humourous yet informative game report then by all means do it.
On December 01 2006 12:12 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I'm going to brag now, cause looking at that list I realized I beat 5 of the top 30 players in the world atm. That is friggin sexy, god I am so cool.
Including JJu, current #3? I am impressed with myself.
Give me reps and I'll let you give my sister babies
On November 30 2006 21:29 WhatisProtoss wrote: Okay, you're mistaken about several things. Did I say I cared whether you think Ra sucks or not? No, I just mentioned Ra is placed right where I expected him (and where he deserved).
I wasn't emotional at all, I just hate it when people say things that they don't even fully understand. The KeSPA ranking system is NOT random. It is not names drawn out of a hat. There is a specific numbering system for all of it..... as much as you think it doesn't.
Stop thinking that the KeSPA is flawed. You are the one who is flawed. Stop posting more on this subject, please.
I will just repost your idiocy, if you are confused:
1. "Jju is not a top 3 player. He never was. He probably never will be."
2. "This is a blip. Jju and GF won't be there for long."
3. "As far as Ra is concerned, the only reason he's still in the top ten is because he was ranked so high in the last one. Limping his way through an MSL that he got gifted back into by a retiring player is not what I consider top 10 material. His OSL presense has been non-existent. His proleague results have been a joke. He would've dropped 5 places regardless of where he was in the list."
Bad Comeback: "So that resolves all that. I didn't disagree with where kespa put any of them."
You have been against the Kespa results this whole time.... yet you don't disagree with them? Then why even comment on them and how they displease you?
It displeases me to see you make such ripping comments about players who are ranked high just because you do not like them (and are misinformed about them). And it displeases me to see you make such statements against anybody who would DARE talk against your opinion, thinking that they're just some clueless Nal_rA fan. No, that is not the case.
Dude, you gotta read what I'm writing here.
I know who you are. I like your posts.
I express my opinions in a very blunt way because I like being a smartass and I find it makes people react to them, thus starting a fun debate. You, however, are taking it personally and are choosing not to read the words I write, simply because you don't like my tone. Tone does not equal literal meaning.
I am not disappointed in Kespa. It's great. In fact, compared to it's old self it's the best ranking SC has ever seen. I am simply pointing out facts from the ranking that show trends and events in pro SC that I have found very disppointing in the past couple months. Please read that sentence again. You ingored it the last time I wrote it.
We have one toss in the top 10 as far as I'm concerned. Ra could've just as easily dropped 6 spots instead of five. That's my point. It's sad for toss, and is a reflection of the current poor performance of every toss in the world right now, except for Anytime because he's made of magic.
You see what I was posting about now? I like kespa. I hate zerg players. Get it right.
you have always been my least favorite news writer because of your bad bias. it makes you seem misinformed and that is where whatisprotoss is arguing, despite how emotional he tends to get in his arguments. whether or not you do know the progaming scene, you're not really qualified to judge kespa rankings if you have sentiments like "omg i hate jju he is not as cool as reach how is he 3rd despite his great performance lately?!"
My news writing is gold. It's my jokes and emphasis on style of play as well as my insulting of bonehead plays that make the reports interesting.
The day I wipe my opinions from my writing to appease politically correct crybabies like you is the day I quit writing forever.
woah man, chill out, it's just my opinion
plus it's not that you have opinions, it's like idra said, the fact that you sound like you're totally and utterly misinformed about BW when you express them
On November 30 2006 21:29 WhatisProtoss wrote: Okay, you're mistaken about several things. Did I say I cared whether you think Ra sucks or not? No, I just mentioned Ra is placed right where I expected him (and where he deserved).
I wasn't emotional at all, I just hate it when people say things that they don't even fully understand. The KeSPA ranking system is NOT random. It is not names drawn out of a hat. There is a specific numbering system for all of it..... as much as you think it doesn't.
Stop thinking that the KeSPA is flawed. You are the one who is flawed. Stop posting more on this subject, please.
I will just repost your idiocy, if you are confused:
1. "Jju is not a top 3 player. He never was. He probably never will be."
2. "This is a blip. Jju and GF won't be there for long."
3. "As far as Ra is concerned, the only reason he's still in the top ten is because he was ranked so high in the last one. Limping his way through an MSL that he got gifted back into by a retiring player is not what I consider top 10 material. His OSL presense has been non-existent. His proleague results have been a joke. He would've dropped 5 places regardless of where he was in the list."
Bad Comeback: "So that resolves all that. I didn't disagree with where kespa put any of them."
You have been against the Kespa results this whole time.... yet you don't disagree with them? Then why even comment on them and how they displease you?
It displeases me to see you make such ripping comments about players who are ranked high just because you do not like them (and are misinformed about them). And it displeases me to see you make such statements against anybody who would DARE talk against your opinion, thinking that they're just some clueless Nal_rA fan. No, that is not the case.
Dude, you gotta read what I'm writing here.
I know who you are. I like your posts.
I express my opinions in a very blunt way because I like being a smartass and I find it makes people react to them, thus starting a fun debate. You, however, are taking it personally and are choosing not to read the words I write, simply because you don't like my tone. Tone does not equal literal meaning.
I am not disappointed in Kespa. It's great. In fact, compared to it's old self it's the best ranking SC has ever seen. I am simply pointing out facts from the ranking that show trends and events in pro SC that I have found very disppointing in the past couple months. Please read that sentence again. You ingored it the last time I wrote it.
We have one toss in the top 10 as far as I'm concerned. Ra could've just as easily dropped 6 spots instead of five. That's my point. It's sad for toss, and is a reflection of the current poor performance of every toss in the world right now, except for Anytime because he's made of magic.
You see what I was posting about now? I like kespa. I hate zerg players. Get it right.
you have always been my least favorite news writer because of your bad bias. it makes you seem misinformed and that is where whatisprotoss is arguing, despite how emotional he tends to get in his arguments. whether or not you do know the progaming scene, you're not really qualified to judge kespa rankings if you have sentiments like "omg i hate jju he is not as cool as reach how is he 3rd despite his great performance lately?!"
My news writing is gold. It's my jokes and emphasis on style of play as well as my insulting of bonehead plays that make the reports interesting.
The day I wipe my opinions from my writing to appease politically correct crybabies like you is the day I quit writing forever.
You know something is wrong when you praise yourself without any shred of modesty: "My news writing is gold."
But then, there are a lot of people besides him who are complaining about the Kespa rankings. People have their own opinions I guess....
I'm sorry but I don't give a shit about the new people. I haven't even heard of some of you who are criticizing ManaBlue's post and while that wouldn't matter because I've been absent for a while it does matter because I've been here nearly since this site's inception. ManaBlue expresses his OPINION so fucking deal with it. You can criticize it but don't criticize the BLUE in his name because it's a sign of respect because he's a great contributor. Whether or not you like his assessments is irrelevant and the fact that you desire monotonous moderators/news posters/game reporters is stupid. Even Klogon and others have their biases.
ManaBlue hates Nada
I love NaDa
I love ManaBlue
GG
Oh, and KeSPA is not perfect, not even nearly enough. EVEN I would not put NaDa back at one yet. EVEN I WOULD NOT PUT NADA BACK AT ONE YET.
expressing an 'opinion' doesnt make you invulnerable to criticism. theres nothing wrong with having an opinion, but the problem that the few of us have with manablue is that he doesn't seem to be able to see things objectively.
I wouldn't care but your criticism isn't just based off of his opinion you're also using personal attacks against his style of writing. It's acerbic and it is not constructive.
On December 02 2006 02:35 Gryffindor_us wrote: I wouldn't care but your criticism isn't just based off of his opinion you're also using personal attacks against his style of writing. It's acerbic and it is not constructive.
telling someone something theyre doing is bad is constructive as they can then stop doing it, and in doing so stop being bad.
Its really cool that you guys are able to interpret a third layer of meaning behind manablue's post. In the future though please, if you dont understand just ask what was meant otherwise fuckoff because you just ruined this thread.
EPT
