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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 30 2006 13:21 GMT
#61
Beating Yellow[Name] and Xellos 2-0 and 2-1 also showcases his pathetic skill.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 30 2006 14:07 GMT
#62
On November 30 2006 22:17 Purind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 18:35 ManaBlue wrote:

(Ra doesn't count fanboys, he was lucky boxer left so he could get another stab at that MSL and even then he didn't do anything good. Him getting 10th is nothing more than a pity spot for our poor, dying race. )


Yeah, I guess he sucks ass cuz he lost 3-1 to Savior in the semis. How utterly pathetic that anyone can possibly lose in such a fashion


Again, he didn't deserve to even make it that far. He was eliminated from the tournament.
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 30 2006 14:12 GMT
#63
On November 30 2006 21:29 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Okay, you're mistaken about several things. Did I say I cared whether you think Ra sucks or not? No, I just mentioned Ra is placed right where I expected him (and where he deserved).

I wasn't emotional at all, I just hate it when people say things that they don't even fully understand. The KeSPA ranking system is NOT random. It is not names drawn out of a hat. There is a specific numbering system for all of it..... as much as you think it doesn't.

Stop thinking that the KeSPA is flawed. You are the one who is flawed. Stop posting more on this subject, please.

I will just repost your idiocy, if you are confused:
Show nested quote +

1. "Jju is not a top 3 player. He never was. He probably never will be."

2. "This is a blip. Jju and GF won't be there for long."

3. "As far as Ra is concerned, the only reason he's still in the top ten is because he was ranked so high in the last one.
Limping his way through an MSL that he got gifted back into by a retiring player is not what I consider top 10 material. His OSL presense has been non-existent. His proleague results have been a joke.
He would've dropped 5 places regardless of where he was in the list."

Bad Comeback: "So that resolves all that. I didn't disagree with where kespa put any of them."

You have been against the Kespa results this whole time.... yet you don't disagree with them? Then why even comment on them and how they displease you?

It displeases me to see you make such ripping comments about players who are ranked high just because you do not like them (and are misinformed about them). And it displeases me to see you make such statements against anybody who would DARE talk against your opinion, thinking that they're just some clueless Nal_rA fan. No, that is not the case.


Dude, you gotta read what I'm writing here.

I know who you are. I like your posts.

I express my opinions in a very blunt way because I like being a smartass and I find it makes people react to them, thus starting a fun debate. You, however, are taking it personally and are choosing not to read the words I write, simply because you don't like my tone. Tone does not equal literal meaning.

I am not disappointed in Kespa. It's great. In fact, compared to it's old self it's the best ranking SC has ever seen. I am simply pointing out facts from the ranking that show trends and events in pro SC that I have found very disppointing in the past couple months. Please read that sentence again. You ingored it the last time I wrote it.

We have one toss in the top 10 as far as I'm concerned. Ra could've just as easily dropped 6 spots instead of five. That's my point. It's sad for toss, and is a reflection of the current poor performance of every toss in the world right now, except for Anytime because he's made of magic.

You see what I was posting about now? I like kespa. I hate zerg players. Get it right.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
November 30 2006 14:14 GMT
#64
Even though NaDa doesn't truly deserve the top spot unless he dethrones Savior at Superfight, I'm still glad he made it.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
November 30 2006 14:21 GMT
#65
For the record, people seem to have a problem with TT's name.

Ever)P(TT = Ever) yes they are the same user, he uses both akas and people should refer to him as TT because when talking about Ever) without using pronouns, it may become confusing who/what he is being talked about. That is to say the sentence "Ever) has good Protoss" could be interpreted as saying TT has good Protoss skills or the Ever) clan has good Protoss users.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 30 2006 14:22 GMT
#66
On November 30 2006 23:07 ManaBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 22:17 Purind wrote:
On November 30 2006 18:35 ManaBlue wrote:

(Ra doesn't count fanboys, he was lucky boxer left so he could get another stab at that MSL and even then he didn't do anything good. Him getting 10th is nothing more than a pity spot for our poor, dying race. )


Yeah, I guess he sucks ass cuz he lost 3-1 to Savior in the semis. How utterly pathetic that anyone can possibly lose in such a fashion


Again, he didn't deserve to even make it that far. He was eliminated from the tournament.


So we should completely ignore his later games in the tournament in pretend they never happened? :p

He was lucky he wasn't eliminated, but that doesn't take anything away from the great games he played afterwards.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 30 2006 14:23 GMT
#67
On November 30 2006 23:14 Mortality wrote:
Even though NaDa doesn't truly deserve the top spot unless he dethrones Savior at Superfight, I'm still glad he made it.


Come to think of it, isn't he the first person to be first in Kespa twice?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
November 30 2006 14:36 GMT
#68
So is it Nada's past that helped him beat Savior this month? Because I was under the impression Savior's continued to bone since the MSL and Nada's been losing in Proleague.
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
November 30 2006 14:42 GMT
#69
Maybe the 3-0 rape of Reach in Superfight is something.
What's up with SuperFights and the main showcases being 3-0?
Lame.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
November 30 2006 14:44 GMT
#70
July and Oov once the top 2 battleing it out in finals and semi-finals every starleague and now look at them... it saddens me.... this is the price you pay for practicing wcg maps... for shame... for shame... I am just happy Midas screwed up at wcg and didn't practice for it otherwise he would be low on KeSPa now also~. 3rd Place... thats the worst a Korean can do and we all know it... If Midas practiced and became #1 beating oov.... well yeah he would be happy but he would have dropped down KeSPa ranking like oov and july and probably quit sc untill he stoped crying. Midas you made the right choice my man!

P.S. Where is Nyoken on this KeSPa thingamajig... he is top 5 in world eeeeeeeeeeez EEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ!.....
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 14:55:07
November 30 2006 14:53 GMT
#71
I'm a bit surprised about Nada getting the 1st spot. Savior's more consistent in Proleague and has won 3 of the last 4 MSL (I'm not sure how many of them actually count though, it's calculated over the last 6 months now right? which would include at least 3 of them).

So unless OSL is worth *significantly* more points, I find this a bit weird. I think Savior should be *far* ahead of everyone else right now. I know he hasn't been in an OSL at all, but it's not like Nada has done wonders in MSL either, since he didn't get past round 2 in the last one and hadn't managed to get into one for ages before that.

(Note that I love both players and don't really mind seeing Nada on top. I'd just like to know how come.)

Actually, what would be nice would be to know the "weight" Kespa uses for all the tourneys.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
November 30 2006 14:57 GMT
#72
OSL IS worth more points
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 14:59:39
November 30 2006 14:57 GMT
#73
On November 30 2006 23:44 G5 wrote:
July and Oov once the top 2 battleing it out in finals and semi-finals every starleague and now look at them... it saddens me.... this is the price you pay for practicing wcg maps... for shame... for shame... I am just happy Midas screwed up at wcg and didn't practice for it otherwise he would be low on KeSPa now also~. 3rd Place... thats the worst a Korean can do and we all know it... If Midas practiced and became #1 beating oov.... well yeah he would be happy but he would have dropped down KeSPa ranking like oov and july and probably quit sc untill he stoped crying. Midas you made the right choice my man!


Well if WCG was worth as many points as it used to do, Oov would be something like 3rd right now.

Now it looks like WCG's being worth almost nothing (Oov fell down a lot the month he won it).

Guess they love the extremes or something.
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Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
November 30 2006 15:08 GMT
#74
On November 30 2006 23:57 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 23:44 G5 wrote:
July and Oov once the top 2 battleing it out in finals and semi-finals every starleague and now look at them... it saddens me.... this is the price you pay for practicing wcg maps... for shame... for shame... I am just happy Midas screwed up at wcg and didn't practice for it otherwise he would be low on KeSPa now also~. 3rd Place... thats the worst a Korean can do and we all know it... If Midas practiced and became #1 beating oov.... well yeah he would be happy but he would have dropped down KeSPa ranking like oov and july and probably quit sc untill he stoped crying. Midas you made the right choice my man!


Maybe they decided that the korean preliminaries gives points for WCG, thus he got the points in August (or whenever the preliminaries were held)?


Well if WCG was worth as many points as it used to do, Oov would be something like 3rd right now.

Now it looks like WCG's being worth almost nothing (Oov fell down a lot the month he won it).

Guess they love the extremes or something.
-_-v
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
November 30 2006 15:13 GMT
#75
On November 30 2006 23:23 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 23:14 Mortality wrote:
Even though NaDa doesn't truly deserve the top spot unless he dethrones Savior at Superfight, I'm still glad he made it.


Come to think of it, isn't he the first person to be first in Kespa twice?


What do you mean? I'm pretty sure people have lost first and retaken it.
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WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
November 30 2006 15:15 GMT
#76
On November 30 2006 23:23 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2006 23:14 Mortality wrote:
Even though NaDa doesn't truly deserve the top spot unless he dethrones Savior at Superfight, I'm still glad he made it.


Come to think of it, isn't he the first person to be first in Kespa twice?

NaDa has been #1 in KeSPA three times now.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 30 2006 15:18 GMT
#77
Has anyone else been first twice?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-11-30 15:20:28
November 30 2006 15:18 GMT
#78
Actually, nevermind. I lied. I was thinking of iloveOOv.

NaDa is the 2nd to regain his #1 ranking. OOv is the 1st. He regained his #1 in March of 2006 and held it for the next 4 months.

NaDa has not been at #1 since July of 2004.

BoxeR never regained his #1 ranking ever since he lost it in April 2003 to NaDa.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 30 2006 15:20 GMT
#79
Heh, ok thx.

I wasn't so far off though Last Romantic. ; )
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
November 30 2006 15:22 GMT
#80
Silver came in second in the msl and only went up two spots. Even KESPA hates his style.

Great job on the rankings Plexa.
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