EPTOn November 30 2006 18:54 WhatisProtoss wrote:
It's hard to believe a Moderator is saying such clueless things...
It's hard to believe a Moderator is saying such clueless things...
you are wrong. he is not a moderator.
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
you are wrong. he is not a moderator. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Jju is 3rd. The world is over. | ||
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SolaR-
United States2685 Posts
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On November 30 2006 18:54 WhatisProtoss wrote: It's hard to believe a Moderator is saying such clueless things... Awww, did I hit a button by ripping on Ra? Sorry muffin.  | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 30 2006 19:10 SuperJongMan wrote: =/ JJu is playing really well atm, he's one of the support pillars of khan as well... he deserves third.. chojja however, doesnt deserve 4thJju is 3rd. Jju is 3rd. The world is over. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2324 Posts
On November 30 2006 19:36 ManaBlue wrote: Awww, did I hit a button by ripping on Ra? Sorry muffin. Thank goodness you're not a Mod. I'd expect a Mod to have better judgment. You pushed the wrong buttons by saying things that are just your personal opinions. Nal_rA deserves to be at 10. He has performed well this season. Stork is still in the top 30, whereas Reach is not. That is a correct assessment, since Stork has performed for Samsung in many proleague games in the last season, while Reach has not. Remember that Stork was in the top 10 several months earlier because of his good performance? Well, apparently, when you're ranked that high, it takes a while to slip down in the ranks, even after a series of bad performances. Reach NEVER displayed victories like Stork(who was in the round of 16 for Shinhan OSL), even in early 2006. And to question whether Jju should be #3 is just plain ignorant. Jju is an amazing player. He made it into the 16 round at Shinhan OSL Season2 (while being the 4th seeded player), was a semifinalist at the Pringles MSL Season 2. In the first Shinhan OSL, he eliminated Nal_rA and YellOw[Name], making it to the semifinals. Two semifinal appearances, one round-of-16 showing, and being the ace for Samsung Khan certainly means a lot (AND actually WINNING, as opposed to his ace counterpart: Stork). He has earned his place strongly this year and should not be questioned, since his statistics certainly prove it. Jju is rightfully rank 3 on KeSPA. Take this ranking seriously. It holds a lot of good evidence in it. You just don't know what you're talking about, "muffin." | ||
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
JULY MUTA FTWWW!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On November 30 2006 18:50 WhatisProtoss wrote: You're mistaken. His official player ID is Ever). Lee YunYeol's official player ID is [ReD]NaDa. What is all this "TT" crap? It's "Ever)". Afaik his ID is Ever)P(TT which is a clan with people like Ever)Z(Maru, Ever)P(Vical, Ever)P(Violet, Ever)T(Piano etc.. calling him simply Ever) is just confusing with all the other gamers in that clan. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
On November 30 2006 18:50 WhatisProtoss wrote: You're mistaken. His official player ID is Ever). Lee YunYeol's official player ID is [ReD]NaDa. What is all this "TT" crap? It's "Ever)". Afaik his ID is Ever)P(TT which is a clan with people like Ever)Z(Maru, Ever)P(Vical, Ever)P(Violet, Ever)T(Piano etc.. calling him simply Ever) is just confusing with all the other gamers in that clan. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2324 Posts
On November 30 2006 21:08 Myxomatosis wrote: Afaik his ID is Ever)P(TT which is a clan with people like Ever)Z(Maru, Ever)P(Vical, Ever)P(Violet, Ever)T(Piano etc.. calling him simply Ever) is just confusing with all the other gamers in that clan. No, he is registered officially as Ever), clan or no clan. | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On November 30 2006 20:17 WhatisProtoss wrote: Thank goodness you're not a Mod. I'd expect a Mod to have better judgment. You pushed the wrong buttons by saying things that are just your personal opinions. Nal_rA deserves to be at 10. He has performed well this season. Stork is still in the top 30, whereas Reach is not. That is a correct assessment, since Stork has performed for Samsung in many proleague games in the last season, while Reach has not. Remember that Stork was in the top 10 several months earlier because of his good performance? Well, apparently, when you're ranked that high, it takes a while to slip down in the ranks, even after a series of bad performances. Reach NEVER displayed victories like Stork(who was in the round of 16 for Shinhan OSL), even in early 2006. And to question whether Jju should be #3 is just plain ignorant. Jju is an amazing player. He made it into the 16 round at Shinhan OSL Season2 (while being the 4th seeded player), was a semifinalist at the Pringles MSL Season 2. In the first Shinhan OSL, he eliminated Nal_rA and YellOw[Name], making it to the semifinals. Two semifinal appearances, one round-of-16 showing, and being the ace for Samsung Khan certainly means a lot (AND actually WINNING, as opposed to his ace counterpart: Stork). He has earned his place strongly this year and should not be questioned, since his statistics certainly prove it. Jju is rightfully rank 3 on KeSPA. Take this ranking seriously. It holds a lot of good evidence in it. You just don't know what you're talking about, "muffin." Hahaha, oh whatisprotoss, don't be so emotional about it. Firstly, I didn't say Reach or Stork deserved to be scored any differently, only that I cry myself to sleep seeing them suck so bad. I guess you didn't see that in the context of the thread. Secondly, Jju is not a top 3 player. He never was. He probably never will be. His presense at the top of this ranking is nothing more than a testament to how awful the other front running players have been doing. Take a look at where GF is. It's a joke. Again, not because kespa did something wrong. Because other good players are making fools of themselves in proleague and prelims. This is a blip. Jju and GF won't be there for long. So that resolves all that. I didn't disagree with where kespa put any of them. As far as Ra is concerned, the only reason he's still in the top ten is because he was ranked so high in the last one. Limping his way through an MSL that he got gifted back into by a retiring player is not what I consider top 10 material. His OSL presense has been non-existent. His proleague results have been a joke. He would've dropped 5 places regardless of where he was in the list. So again, you misunderstand my comments. This kespa ranking is a mish-mash of random players because other than savior, anytime and nada, the rest of these guys have been all over the place. To tell you the truth, I don't even know how you would start in ranking them. It's stupifying! Your emotional response was obviously due to a misunderstanding, but yes, I do think Ra sucks. Sue me. | ||
thedeadhaji
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2324 Posts
I wasn't emotional at all, I just hate it when people say things that they don't even fully understand. The KeSPA ranking system is NOT random. It is not names drawn out of a hat. There is a specific numbering system for all of it..... as much as you think it doesn't. Stop thinking that the KeSPA is flawed. You are the one who is flawed. Stop posting more on this subject, please. I will just repost your idiocy, if you are confused: 1. "Jju is not a top 3 player. He never was. He probably never will be." 2. "This is a blip. Jju and GF won't be there for long." 3. "As far as Ra is concerned, the only reason he's still in the top ten is because he was ranked so high in the last one. Limping his way through an MSL that he got gifted back into by a retiring player is not what I consider top 10 material. His OSL presense has been non-existent. His proleague results have been a joke. He would've dropped 5 places regardless of where he was in the list." Bad Comeback: "So that resolves all that. I didn't disagree with where kespa put any of them." You have been against the Kespa results this whole time.... yet you don't disagree with them? Then why even comment on them and how they displease you? It displeases me to see you make such ripping comments about players who are ranked high just because you do not like them (and are misinformed about them). And it displeases me to see you make such statements against anybody who would DARE talk against your opinion, thinking that they're just some clueless Nal_rA fan. No, that is not the case. | ||
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Sadist
United States7155 Posts
On November 30 2006 21:29 WhatisProtoss wrote: Okay, you're mistaken about several things. Did I say I cared whether you think Ra sucks or not? No, I just mentioned Ra is placed right where I expected him (and where he deserved). I wasn't emotional at all, I just hate it when people say things that they don't even fully understand. The KeSPA ranking system is NOT random. It is not names drawn out of a hat. There is a specific numbering system for all of it..... as much as you think it doesn't. Stop thinking that the KeSPA is flawed. You are the one who is flawed. Stop posting more on this subject, please. if the points carry over from a year i think its flawed, i think your points should depreciate over time personally until they are finally zero, you shouldnt lose them all at once. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
Thanks plexa, I like how you also did a comparison with DJEtter's rankings. But before anyone points out that DJEtter is wrong, he's not. It's HIS opinion about who's playing hot RIGHT NOW. Not past few months. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 30 2006 21:53 jkillashark wrote:Thanks plexa, I like how you also did a comparison with DJEtter's rankings. But before anyone points out that DJEtter is wrong, he's not. It's HIS opinion about who's playing hot RIGHT NOW. Not past few months. Its also necesarry to remember etter's ratings are from last month... some players on his list dont deserve their spot due to recent times and im sure etter will change them to suit.. if this thread is still alive by the time he updates rankings ill put a new comparison up | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
On November 30 2006 18:35 ManaBlue wrote: (Ra doesn't count fanboys, he was lucky boxer left so he could get another stab at that MSL and even then he didn't do anything good. Him getting 10th is nothing more than a pity spot for our poor, dying race.  )Yeah, I guess he sucks ass cuz he lost 3-1 to Savior in the semis. How utterly pathetic that anyone can possibly lose in such a fashion | ||
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