Map (2)Queensbridge

On January 16 2014 06:42 kogeT wrote:
The problem I see is PvZ mid game pressure, how do you exactly defend as zerg? Map provokes 3 base hydra mass all-ins, as any other strategy seems to die vs middle game pushes. Also, it would be easy to take 3rd as toss, and extremely hard to defend your nat and 3rd as zerg, not even thinking about 4th.

On January 16 2014 07:00 FlaShFTW wrote:
this map is good, but it really makes it difficult to take any bases. even your third is no gimme. try to make bases a little more easy to take imo

On January 18 2014 06:54 Peeano wrote:
I'm pretty sure traceurling meant mapstats on the 3 match ups
e.g.

TvZ 29-21 58%
ZvP 13-12 52%
PvT 27-23 54%

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TvZ: 148-139 (51.6%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 134-117 (53.4%) [ Games ]
PvT: 143-137 (51.1%) [ Games ]

TvZ: 157-89 (63.8%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 102-112 (47.7%) [ Games ]
PvT: 102-119 (46.2%) [ Games ]

On January 18 2014 11:19 FlaShFTW wrote:

TvZ: Terran just sits on 2 base the entire game while denying third. You don't need a mech switch if zerg never gets another base.

TvP: once again, 2 base max is pretty strong. getting your third as terran isnt too hard either. just wall off your third with depots while defending the larger choke with a couple of turrets and tanks.

On January 18 2014 11:08 SynC[gm] wrote:
Maybe he just made up some random stats as an example? And then directed FS map stats as a prime example?

Not 100% sure, I'm curious as well, lol.

On January 25 2014 03:21 ErrantKnight wrote:
The main is huge ! I feel I'll need a lot of turrets in TvP, nice job for the rest I'll try to convince a couple friends to play on this map.

On January 25 2014 10:51 Freakling wrote:

Having big mains in a two spawn map is a good thing though, given that you cannot take another main to gain more macro space...

Original Message From hacklebeast:
I'm probably not the right person to ask about it, but I'll give it a shot.

-overall I like it

-you should be able to build a pylon wall at the third with 3/4 pylons. It kind of looks like you cant, but i cant tell just from the pic.

-I think people are going to play this map wrong. Most maps split left/right, so people are inclined to lean towards that, but on this map it is a lot better to split up/down.

-if you think about it as a up down split, then the map is very constrictive in the mid. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I think it will make lat game pvp/pvz very interesting, but make late game tvp/tvt a grind.

-I would make the wall at the 3/9 oclock bases touch the geyser. This will take away some room to put turrets/mines to allow dropships/arbiters to have a chance to break up the stalemate mid.

-the corner expos are big enough that you can land units with drop/shuttle/overlord, and they would not be seen until after they all unload. Maps tend to not do this on corner expos, but I'm ok with encouraging drop play.

-make sure that a gateway is ling tight with the cliff at the topside natural on the top of the gateway. If it isn't, then you have to block the hole with a probe, or start the wall from the bottom. Either way, bot has a positional advantage.

hope it helps.

hacklebeast

On February 02 2014 01:42 hacklebeast wrote:
-make sure that a gateway is ling tight with the cliff at the topside natural on the top of the gateway. If it isn't, then you have to block the hole with a probe, or start the wall from the bottom. Either way, bot has a positional advantage.