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traceurling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1240 Posts
September 11 2013 05:09 GMT
#81
You don't know broodwar until you've had the 8 player melee...
"Appreciate the things you have before they become the things you had."
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
September 11 2013 05:19 GMT
#82
On September 11 2013 11:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote:
On September 10 2013 00:54 s.Q.uelched wrote:
On September 08 2013 03:37 ArvickHero wrote:
why don't zergs abuse parasite more

And burrow. I also think hallucination in PvT is super underrated.


problem with hallu is that the gig's up when terran scans or has vessels out


I might be wrong, but I don't think that hallucinations in Brood War are revealed by detection. The reason hallucinations aren't used much has more to do with the high energy cost than anything else. How would you use hallucinations anyway, against Terran; baiting EMPs with fake arbiters might be useful, or tanking for the real arbiter for a mass recall, but I don't see much use of hallucination beyond that.


Recalls are basically what hallucinations are used for. It is the spells most common use, anyway. It's not really "Nonstandard", but it's not something you see every game, either. I saw it a bunch of times in pro league, and from Korean streams.

Now I'm going to watch the game that apparently proves Bisu disagrees.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 05:23:14
September 11 2013 05:22 GMT
#83
On September 11 2013 12:03 Falling wrote:
I don't think you need to lose 200 games to get a win. I got a win after 30 games.


It's what I needed, when I started out having little to no RTS skill or experience. I suppose this guy got to diamond in SC2, so he might need less. If you needed less, that's cool.

Like I said, though, I had a great time. The first time I survived to get ultralisks in ZvP was really cool. I was really quite pumped up.

Edit: Oh, damn, it's the classic zealot hallucination to drag mines and cause siege tank splash without losing units.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-11 05:34:50
September 11 2013 05:33 GMT
#84
On September 11 2013 12:03 Falling wrote:
I don't think you need to win 200 games to get a win. I got a win after 30 games. But you have to put in the grunt work somewhere even if not on ladder. I spent a lot of time playing just against comps to work on macro and build order openings. And practicing keyboard macro patterns on loading screens of other games. (I was playing Mass Effect at the time.) My macro still sucks, but it got good enough to win games on ladder.

But that's not all I did. I had lots of fun playing giant lan games with my friends. It's not as frequent now that I'm out of uni, but some of still get together. Last time was in July 2v2v3. I played offrace and had the 20apm ally to balance me out. Total blast.

I won my first game after 7 losses - Granted that I played a lot of vs Comp before that so I had *some* limited and distorted experience.

I believe I 2 Fact vulture all-inned some Protoss and since he made DTs and I was bad (Not placing enough defensive mines) He got into my base and wrecked it - killed all my SCVs, but since I killed all his workers and mined him in into his base he couldn't do anything, but wait until all his buildings died.

Then I went 1-15 and after that things started going better for me slowly gravitating to a 33% winrate versus D... It all went up hill from there. I'm currently trying to *not* get raped by those god damn C/C+ players.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
September 11 2013 05:41 GMT
#85
On September 11 2013 14:19 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 11:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On September 10 2013 02:11 amazingxkcd wrote:
On September 10 2013 00:54 s.Q.uelched wrote:
On September 08 2013 03:37 ArvickHero wrote:
why don't zergs abuse parasite more

And burrow. I also think hallucination in PvT is super underrated.


problem with hallu is that the gig's up when terran scans or has vessels out


I might be wrong, but I don't think that hallucinations in Brood War are revealed by detection. The reason hallucinations aren't used much has more to do with the high energy cost than anything else. How would you use hallucinations anyway, against Terran; baiting EMPs with fake arbiters might be useful, or tanking for the real arbiter for a mass recall, but I don't see much use of hallucination beyond that.


Recalls are basically what hallucinations are used for. It is the spells most common use, anyway. It's not really "Nonstandard", but it's not something you see every game, either. I saw it a bunch of times in pro league, and from Korean streams.

Now I'm going to watch the game that apparently proves Bisu disagrees.


It's impossible to have a discussion of Hallucination go by without reference to perhaps the most famous Hallucination Recall ever! Nal_rA too good.

MSL 2052
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
September 11 2013 16:36 GMT
#86
On September 11 2013 07:18 Iway wrote:
how come there was no such thread :/ ?


Well, we used to have big topics that could just go in their own threads, but nowadays it has become more useful to have a GD thread I think, where we can kinda just talk about whatever. Just comes with how the playerbase/scene/TL userbase changed.
TranslatorBaa!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#87
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today
In the woods, there lurks..
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
September 11 2013 18:00 GMT
#88
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

Kwanro started streaming~~:D
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
September 11 2013 19:22 GMT
#89
On September 12 2013 03:00 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

Kwanro started streaming~~:D

That's amazing! I thought that he would not have time to stream (studies etc.)
BW
Wohmfg
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1292 Posts
September 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#90
Where are spoiler free vods for SRT16 finals?
BW4Life!
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#91
On September 12 2013 03:00 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

Kwanro started streaming~~:D

oh boy.

playing pvz on desti is now suddenly a test of manhood and wallproof defenses and defending your back ramp minerals with your lfie!
In the woods, there lurks..
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 12 2013 00:53 GMT
#92
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

On ICCup or Fish server? What ranks?
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
September 12 2013 02:21 GMT
#93
Do you guys think it would be helpful to have a single 'BW Pro is streaming' thread so we can organize it in some way and link vods?
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2781 Posts
September 12 2013 03:41 GMT
#94
On September 12 2013 11:21 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Do you guys think it would be helpful to have a single 'BW Pro is streaming' thread so we can organize it in some way and link vods?


Would love to see all the Nada vods in one place.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 12 2013 03:47 GMT
#95
^ ps haven't seen nada stream in a while now, hope he streams soon :/

On September 12 2013 11:21 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Do you guys think it would be helpful to have a single 'BW Pro is streaming' thread so we can organize it in some way and link vods?

It would be but it'll take a lot of work to get all the vods of the different BW players in one place. How far back are you thinking in regards to this?

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
September 12 2013 06:01 GMT
#96
isnt that what the snipealot thread is for
Writerptrk
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 12 2013 07:33 GMT
#97
On September 12 2013 11:21 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Do you guys think it would be helpful to have a single 'BW Pro is streaming' thread so we can organize it in some way and link vods?

The first thing that we should do is to feature 2 other snipealot's streams.. 1 and 3. Because, for uknown to me, reasons the only one that is featured is the snipealot2 stream..
T H C makes ppl happy
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 12 2013 07:35 GMT
#98
[image loading]
have some in_dove from long ago (just shared on his fb)
I wish I could see more of his bio, it was such a pleasure to look at ;;
En Taro Violet
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 08:55:26
September 12 2013 08:54 GMT
#99
On September 12 2013 09:53 oDieN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

On ICCup or Fish server? What ranks?

D+ on my way to C atm (iccup)

Smurfs are every, its kinda riddic how many 1200 or so point accounts that butcher me on the ladder.

Did new season just start or what
In the woods, there lurks..
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
September 12 2013 08:57 GMT
#100
On September 12 2013 17:54 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 09:53 oDieN wrote:
On September 12 2013 02:45 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I the only PvZ'er which has seen 80% ninepools or overpool gas builds in their pvz's today? It's fucking riddic how much ling aggression there is today

On ICCup or Fish server? What ranks?

D+ on my way to C atm (iccup)

Smurfs are every, its kinda riddic how many 1200 or so point accounts that butcher me on the ladder.

Did new season just start or what

Zergs are going to continue to do overpool or some kind of pool first openings as long as the protoss continue to scout early and be able to block that 12 hatch.
Flash should fear Sacsri
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