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ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
March 24 2014 10:02 GMT
#821
My favourite mine daebak ever:

Forward
Filco
Profile Joined October 2013
France165 Posts
March 24 2014 11:43 GMT
#822
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.
Filco Channel on youtube for fpvs, replays, tutorials and thoughts on the game.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
March 24 2014 12:33 GMT
#823
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.

Because spider mines are imba. Remember where they came from!
[image loading]
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 24 2014 15:08 GMT
#824
On March 24 2014 19:02 ZeroChrome wrote:
My favourite mine daebak ever:

http://youtu.be/B9UEGTBbp9Q?t=57m45s

now that's a crazy mine hit imo. 6 tanks(or 5) with 1 mine.

On March 24 2014 21:33 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.

Because spider mines are imba. Remember where they came from!
[image loading]

what is this? :S
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5954 Posts
March 24 2014 15:39 GMT
#825
On March 25 2014 00:08 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 19:02 ZeroChrome wrote:
My favourite mine daebak ever:

http://youtu.be/B9UEGTBbp9Q?t=57m45s

now that's a crazy mine hit imo. 6 tanks(or 5) with 1 mine.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 21:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.

Because spider mines are imba. Remember where they came from!
[image loading]

what is this? :S

It's Blackthorne by Blizzard. Basically a more bad ass Prince of Persia.
FBH #1!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
March 24 2014 15:44 GMT
#826
On March 25 2014 00:39 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 00:08 BigFan wrote:
On March 24 2014 19:02 ZeroChrome wrote:
My favourite mine daebak ever:

http://youtu.be/B9UEGTBbp9Q?t=57m45s

now that's a crazy mine hit imo. 6 tanks(or 5) with 1 mine.

On March 24 2014 21:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.

Because spider mines are imba. Remember where they came from!
[image loading]

what is this? :S

It's Blackthorne by Blizzard. Basically a more bad ass Prince of Persia.

Exactly. And the spider mine is a tribute to Blackthorne.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 24 2014 15:51 GMT
#827
On March 25 2014 00:39 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 00:08 BigFan wrote:
On March 24 2014 19:02 ZeroChrome wrote:
My favourite mine daebak ever:

http://youtu.be/B9UEGTBbp9Q?t=57m45s

now that's a crazy mine hit imo. 6 tanks(or 5) with 1 mine.

On March 24 2014 21:33 BisuDagger wrote:
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.

Because spider mines are imba. Remember where they came from!
[image loading]

what is this? :S

It's Blackthorne by Blizzard. Basically a more bad ass Prince of Persia.

ya, I've heard of Blackthorne but never looked into it, thanks! There's no game more bad ass than Prince of Persia! sorry lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 24 2014 20:35 GMT
#828
What's up with the Gom classic vods?
maru G5L pls
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
March 25 2014 04:11 GMT
#829
On March 25 2014 05:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
What's up with the Gom classic vods?

Idk

Until then read this!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/final-edits/81218-i-spit-hot-fire
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 25 2014 04:18 GMT
#830
i thought gom removed them?
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 25 2014 06:56 GMT
#831
On March 25 2014 05:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
What's up with the Gom classic vods?

Gom was supposed to remove them. Haven't checked to find out if they did though :/
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
March 25 2014 07:42 GMT
#832
On March 25 2014 15:56 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 05:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
What's up with the Gom classic vods?

Gom was supposed to remove them. Haven't checked to find out if they did though :/

pretty sure they are talking about the new season, not 1-3
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
March 25 2014 17:13 GMT
#833
Poll: How do you like your zerg cooked?

ludicrously spicy (over 100,000 SHU) (7)
 
39%

to be on someone else's plate. (4)
 
22%

only very mild (under 1000 SHU) (2)
 
11%

fairly spicy (1000-5000 SHU) (2)
 
11%

extremely spicy (30,001-100,000 SHU) (2)
 
11%

completely sweet (0 Scoville Heat Units) (1)
 
6%

Nothing milder than Bhut Jolokia, please. (0)
 
0%

18 total votes

Your vote: How do you like your zerg cooked?

(Vote): completely sweet (0 Scoville Heat Units)
(Vote): only very mild (under 1000 SHU)
(Vote): fairly spicy (1000-5000 SHU)
(Vote): extremely spicy (30,001-100,000 SHU)
(Vote): ludicrously spicy (over 100,000 SHU)
(Vote): Nothing milder than Bhut Jolokia, please.
(Vote): to be on someone else's plate.

ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 17:53:30
March 25 2014 17:52 GMT
#834
I'm a vegetarian with regards to terran animals, but when it comes to Zerg, fuck it.
I bet they taste good.

I want some ultralisk steak. Prime cuts.
Or Hydralisk beef.
And some zergling legs. And fries with dat.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 25 2014 18:00 GMT
#835
I dislike zvz, let someone else eat it
In the woods, there lurks..
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 25 2014 18:04 GMT
#836
Someone else's plate please!

On March 25 2014 16:42 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2014 15:56 BigFan wrote:
On March 25 2014 05:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
What's up with the Gom classic vods?

Gom was supposed to remove them. Haven't checked to find out if they did though :/

pretty sure they are talking about the new season, not 1-3

oh ok lol. btw that's once nice icon you got there
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
March 25 2014 19:07 GMT
#837
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.


Mines do less damage to units further away (something like 100%, 50%, 25%) so it seems bigger because probes have less hp and will actually die to the outer radius of damage. So if a probe was shot once by the tank and then got caught on the outer radius of damage it would die.
Moderator
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 03:05:25
March 25 2014 19:52 GMT
#838
On March 26 2014 04:07 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 20:43 Filco wrote:
I've watched again my video and I am sure that it's only one mine which explodes. I am still not ale to understand why it's radius is so big thou, especially compared to the size of my tank for instance.


Mines do less damage to units further away (something like 100%, 50%, 25%) so it seems bigger because probes have less hp and will actually die to the outer radius of damage. So if a probe was shot once by the tank and then got caught on the outer radius of damage it would die.


If you watch the bottom portion of the screen (in freeze frame sequence), 1)the siege tank cannon animation occurs just before the mine explosion occurs, with the damage being dealt presumably to the closest outermost probe. 2) Two vulture grenade shots are fired(and are visibly flying through the air), and explode at essentially the same time as the mine explosion - one vulture grenade explosion animation occurs on the second outermost probe before the mine explosion(and after the siege tank shot hits the outermost probe), the 2nd vulture shot hits outermost probe just as the mine explosion occurs.

Conclusion: if indeed there is a damage gradient, the second probe being- closer than the outermost probe, and also being hit by a vulture grenade at the same time as the explosion, would have died(even at 25% lowest damage gradient).

-So the second outermost probe, was not in range of the mine explosion(at any damage gradient 25%<)
-The outermost probe was out of range of mine explosion, and died due to 1) a tank shot (reducing shields) 2) subsequent vulture grenade, that incidentally landed on the outermost probe at the same time the mine explosion killed the other probes.

Is there a source for the spidermine damage gradient? Even though it may not apply in this situation, it would be interesting to verify the facts.
Filco
Profile Joined October 2013
France165 Posts
March 25 2014 20:05 GMT
#839
I agree. So that's 5 probes and 2 vultures dying to a single mine in quite large zone. The other two probes are not damaged by the mine : one dies exactly in the same time as the mine explodes from vults grenade, and the last on died from a tank shot. When I was playing I just saw all the blue explosions in a very large zone so I was really amazed. It stays an amazing mine shot anyway .
Filco Channel on youtube for fpvs, replays, tutorials and thoughts on the game.
Plissken_2097
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Spain628 Posts
March 25 2014 22:54 GMT
#840
Spider mines have a ridicously huge radius. 3 dragoons arrayed vertically and a mine hitting the top one results on all 3 of them take damage, each one a different layer of the AoE. Also have to consider that probes have shields which don't reduce the damage by half so they are 25% more vulnerable than drones.
Formerly Golondrin
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