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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-13 13:11:29
March 13 2020 13:10 GMT
#6621
Cannot open starcraft as luncher dead? Just me or anyone else also having issues.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
March 13 2020 13:13 GMT
#6622
mine is broken too
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
March 13 2020 13:19 GMT
#6623
On March 13 2020 21:47 MisterBoba wrote:
Guys is ok all good health.

Please someone tell me how ramp in recent map look so good? They always use to look bad. Now I guess map maker find better tiles?

Its new feature with remastered they added custom ramps in editor! )
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 13 2020 19:14 GMT
#6624
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19050 Posts
March 13 2020 19:49 GMT
#6625
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-13 19:55:08
March 13 2020 19:54 GMT
#6626
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
March 13 2020 20:21 GMT
#6627
Does anyone know what kind of hack/bug is that? From 06:11:20
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/54063282
Du kan om du vill...
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10672 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-13 20:38:53
March 13 2020 20:37 GMT
#6628
On March 14 2020 05:21 marwin wrote:
Does anyone know what kind of hack/bug is that? From 06:11:20
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/54063282

WOW LOL, this dude has figured out some crazy gas drone bug, this was ridiculous LOL

EDIT : WOW , it looks like he damages drone / unborrows right as it does / cancels the extractor and it creates millions of drones what...
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 13 2020 21:49 GMT
#6629
On March 14 2020 04:54 MisterBoba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.

I'm actually gaining MMR , since two of my opponents left immediately. ^_^

I shouldn't have whined honestly, just a bit annoyed at losing. >.>
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2020 00:38 GMT
#6630
On March 14 2020 06:49 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 04:54 MisterBoba wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.

I'm actually gaining MMR , since two of my opponents left immediately. ^_^

I shouldn't have whined honestly, just a bit annoyed at losing. >.>

You will get used to it if you are serious about playing the game.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
March 14 2020 02:26 GMT
#6631
On March 14 2020 09:38 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 06:49 Grumbels wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:54 MisterBoba wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.

I'm actually gaining MMR , since two of my opponents left immediately. ^_^

I shouldn't have whined honestly, just a bit annoyed at losing. >.>

You will get used to it if you are serious about playing the game.

What does mean to be "serious about playing the game"? Explain please sir?
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-14 03:02:00
March 14 2020 02:59 GMT
#6632
Well, for a start, to do the stuff that he said is not fun: practice build orders and read up on strategy. (+ go for deliberate practice matches against a practice partner or coach)

That stuff is fun btw. And practicing builds orders is a humbling experience because if you watch the rep you realize that you can't even do the shit properly with no opponent around...
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 14 2020 03:59 GMT
#6633
On March 14 2020 11:26 MisterBoba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 09:38 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2020 06:49 Grumbels wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:54 MisterBoba wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.

I'm actually gaining MMR , since two of my opponents left immediately. ^_^

I shouldn't have whined honestly, just a bit annoyed at losing. >.>

You will get used to it if you are serious about playing the game.

What does mean to be "serious about playing the game"? Explain please sir?

You are only accurately placed if you win ~50% of your games, meaning that you have to learn how to lose games without getting tilted if you plan to play enough games to get to that point and transcend beyond it.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
March 14 2020 05:14 GMT
#6634
On March 14 2020 12:59 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 11:26 MisterBoba wrote:
On March 14 2020 09:38 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2020 06:49 Grumbels wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:54 MisterBoba wrote:
On March 14 2020 04:49 tofucake wrote:
If you keep losing you're not yet at your skill level. Just keep playing.

Speak for yourself )

On March 14 2020 04:14 Grumbels wrote:
I thought it would be fun to learn to play BW, but all my experience is with WC3/SC2. I've lost 8 games in a row now against opponents all with over 200 apm. Are there actually still novice players left on the ladder? I feel like there's no point in losing to lower my MMR if I'm the only active bad player. I don't really want to resort to measures like practicing build orders in solo games or reading up on strategy, where's the fun in that? I want to improve by playing ranked against people of my skill level and slowly improve.

You may want to just leave like 10+ game in a row.

I'm actually gaining MMR , since two of my opponents left immediately. ^_^

I shouldn't have whined honestly, just a bit annoyed at losing. >.>

You will get used to it if you are serious about playing the game.

What does mean to be "serious about playing the game"? Explain please sir?

You are only accurately placed if you win ~50% of your games, meaning that you have to learn how to lose games without getting tilted if you plan to play enough games to get to that point and transcend beyond it.

Maybe is my issue because when I get tilted all I want do is play more game nonstop haha. Anyone else get this effect?
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
reps)Defi
Profile Joined September 2007
Russian Federation337 Posts
March 14 2020 08:04 GMT
#6635
On March 14 2020 14:14 MisterBoba wrote:

Maybe is my issue because when I get tilted all I want do is play more game nonstop haha. Anyone else get this effect?


I guess it is common effect for like 90% of players. Specially in 5v5 games like LoL or DotA, where you always have someone else to blame :D
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
March 14 2020 08:32 GMT
#6636
On March 14 2020 05:37 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 05:21 marwin wrote:
Does anyone know what kind of hack/bug is that? From 06:11:20
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/54063282

WOW LOL, this dude has figured out some crazy gas drone bug, this was ridiculous LOL

EDIT : WOW , it looks like he damages drone / unborrows right as it does / cancels the extractor and it creates millions of drones what...
Someone able to reproduce this bug?
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8020 Posts
March 14 2020 10:25 GMT
#6637
On March 14 2020 17:32 DiMiaN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 05:37 GGzerG wrote:
On March 14 2020 05:21 marwin wrote:
Does anyone know what kind of hack/bug is that? From 06:11:20
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/54063282

WOW LOL, this dude has figured out some crazy gas drone bug, this was ridiculous LOL

EDIT : WOW , it looks like he damages drone / unborrows right as it does / cancels the extractor and it creates millions of drones what...
Someone able to reproduce this bug?

I have tried , but unsuccessful!
Unbelivable bug
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 14 2020 10:26 GMT
#6638
On March 14 2020 11:59 Highgamer wrote:
Well, for a start, to do the stuff that he said is not fun: practice build orders and read up on strategy. (+ go for deliberate practice matches against a practice partner or coach)

That stuff is fun btw. And practicing builds orders is a humbling experience because if you watch the rep you realize that you can't even do the shit properly with no opponent around...

some extra practice I’m fine with, but in my opinion you learn more quickly by playing ranked. I know that won’t always translate to wins, probably if you care only about MMR you should perfect some build, but in terms of overall game sense and mechanics I’d like to just play somewhat defensive strategies against players of equal skill level and slowly improve.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10145 Posts
March 14 2020 14:17 GMT
#6639
On March 14 2020 19:26 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 11:59 Highgamer wrote:
Well, for a start, to do the stuff that he said is not fun: practice build orders and read up on strategy. (+ go for deliberate practice matches against a practice partner or coach)

That stuff is fun btw. And practicing builds orders is a humbling experience because if you watch the rep you realize that you can't even do the shit properly with no opponent around...

some extra practice I’m fine with, but in my opinion you learn more quickly by playing ranked. I know that won’t always translate to wins, probably if you care only about MMR you should perfect some build, but in terms of overall game sense and mechanics I’d like to just play somewhat defensive strategies against players of equal skill level and slowly improve.

That's also a way to develop bad habits, because you are playing in response to your field and not in response to what you will face in the future. In other words, you will run into weird low MMR shit, inefficient or nonsensical build orders, etc. and because you are using this as your learning foundation, you will be misled into doing things that don't make sense. This game has 20 years of history, it makes sense to base your learning of it at least somewhat on that history and not on biased perception of low level ladder experience.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 14 2020 15:03 GMT
#6640
On March 14 2020 23:17 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2020 19:26 Grumbels wrote:
On March 14 2020 11:59 Highgamer wrote:
Well, for a start, to do the stuff that he said is not fun: practice build orders and read up on strategy. (+ go for deliberate practice matches against a practice partner or coach)

That stuff is fun btw. And practicing builds orders is a humbling experience because if you watch the rep you realize that you can't even do the shit properly with no opponent around...

some extra practice I’m fine with, but in my opinion you learn more quickly by playing ranked. I know that won’t always translate to wins, probably if you care only about MMR you should perfect some build, but in terms of overall game sense and mechanics I’d like to just play somewhat defensive strategies against players of equal skill level and slowly improve.

That's also a way to develop bad habits, because you are playing in response to your field and not in response to what you will face in the future. In other words, you will run into weird low MMR shit, inefficient or nonsensical build orders, etc. and because you are using this as your learning foundation, you will be misled into doing things that don't make sense. This game has 20 years of history, it makes sense to base your learning of it at least somewhat on that history and not on biased perception of low level ladder experience.

can you give an example of a bad habit? I honestly have trouble conceptualizing what it means. usually if I run into problems with my skill level the simple answer is to just play more. i don't know if I believe in, like, technical exercises or special coaching.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
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