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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
March 10 2020 17:08 GMT
#6601
On March 09 2020 04:02 MisterBoba wrote:
When I play ladder, my head instant go to shit.
Terran who sit on ass, do absolute NOTHING, get 2-1 and attack and win vs 5 base P are killing my soul.
Zerg who sit on ass, do absolute NOTHING, get lurker, are killing my soul.
Does anyone else have this soul kill by these thing?


this is a goldmine typical protoss :D

have the easiest race in the game still complains about opie zerg and terran KEKW
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
March 10 2020 18:55 GMT
#6602
On March 11 2020 02:08 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2020 04:02 MisterBoba wrote:
When I play ladder, my head instant go to shit.
Terran who sit on ass, do absolute NOTHING, get 2-1 and attack and win vs 5 base P are killing my soul.
Zerg who sit on ass, do absolute NOTHING, get lurker, are killing my soul.
Does anyone else have this soul kill by these thing?


this is a goldmine typical protoss :D

have the easiest race in the game still complains about opie zerg and terran KEKW

You want fucking easy play T sit on ASS and not move until 2-1 done you do NOTHING fuck god what a blood. And the fuck T can do is ridiculous you just get 3 and sit and attack you can get 2k easily I have seen it.

But good health.


User was temp banned for this post.
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
March 10 2020 20:59 GMT
#6603
I was watching some old matches and I come across players like Sea and Movie.
And it got me thinking! Does anyone knows what are they doing? They streamed before, but now are they in the army ??
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 10:26:41
March 11 2020 10:25 GMT
#6604
On March 11 2020 05:59 prosatan wrote:
I was watching some old matches and I come across players like Sea and Movie.
And it got me thinking! Does anyone knows what are they doing? They streamed before, but now are they in the army ??


tl.net

In that post from last October Sea is listed among players who should return form service within a year.

The second post before that one seems to be rather well informed about "recent notable military departures", but says about Movie that he had "fallen off" for unknown reasons.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8649 Posts
March 11 2020 10:50 GMT
#6605
from what i know movie is in china atm. think he had a coaching gig? not completely sure
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
March 11 2020 12:04 GMT
#6606
srsly banning boba for telling the truth?
No prophet is accepted in his own country
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 11 2020 12:33 GMT
#6607
On March 10 2020 23:41 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2020 18:56 darktreb wrote:
The funny thing is Protoss players can get so far without Psi Storm that they never trained the same "you must be able to use this as if your life depended on it" muscles around PvT Psi Storm as Terran or Zerg do for the hardest to manage parts of their arsenals.

Protoss can legitimately win up to pro level (and even at pro level excepting Flash and maybe 2-4 other Terran players depending on the month) by being able to contain their whole army in hotkeys, and without worrying about stuff like laying mines without self own or accidental siege up at the wrong spot. And Protoss can literally build 20+ Gateways at multiple bases with Dragoon and Zealot even having equal build times to make that part of macro even easier.

Because of all that, instead of having trained with Psi Storm from amateur level, it tends to get incorporated only when needed (e.g. against the very best T in the entire world).

Thus, Protoss players are way worse at using Psi Storm in late game PvT than they should be. Jangbi showed that P can be nearly unstoppable if they train their Psi Storm usage to the extent Terrans practice managing their death ball or Zerg practices managing way more units that can be hotkeyed.

Instead Protoss late game skill consists of moving around a bunch of units that are fast and can all be hotkeyed, plus properly using the ridiculously strong spells of a 350 HP (Arbiter) FLYING unit, plus making sure to have some Observers (an invisible flying unit haha) around.

It's insane that a spell as strong (and even totally tech tree compatible given Arbiters) as Psi Storm isn't even mandatory for every PvT. Does any other race leave something that powerful off the table in half its games just because it might be fragile (as if Shuttle dropping HTs is that fragile composted to how fragile everything is in BW)?


Same reason why Ghosts are not the auto-strat against Carriers: it's really hard to pull off, mechanically.

In the end, economy of actions is a thing that matters at all stages of the game and in the strategic side of things as well.


Thing is if anything Protoss shouldn't have any issues with storm in PvT given the fact they use storm in PvZ and it's even harder to use there!
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
March 11 2020 12:49 GMT
#6608
On March 11 2020 21:04 [AS]Rattus wrote:
srsly banning boba for telling the truth?
No prophet is accepted in his own country

He was banned for how he posted, not what he posted.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
March 11 2020 13:38 GMT
#6609
Thanks for these answers
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 11 2020 14:42 GMT
#6610
a few of us at work have started playing BW ffas at lunch time and it prompted me to pop back here and say hi. Maybe i'll try to persuade them to watch some ASL games if the timing works out.

Nice to see this game will never die.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
March 11 2020 16:58 GMT
#6611
On March 11 2020 21:33 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2020 23:41 oxKnu wrote:
On March 10 2020 18:56 darktreb wrote:
The funny thing is Protoss players can get so far without Psi Storm that they never trained the same "you must be able to use this as if your life depended on it" muscles around PvT Psi Storm as Terran or Zerg do for the hardest to manage parts of their arsenals.

Protoss can legitimately win up to pro level (and even at pro level excepting Flash and maybe 2-4 other Terran players depending on the month) by being able to contain their whole army in hotkeys, and without worrying about stuff like laying mines without self own or accidental siege up at the wrong spot. And Protoss can literally build 20+ Gateways at multiple bases with Dragoon and Zealot even having equal build times to make that part of macro even easier.

Because of all that, instead of having trained with Psi Storm from amateur level, it tends to get incorporated only when needed (e.g. against the very best T in the entire world).

Thus, Protoss players are way worse at using Psi Storm in late game PvT than they should be. Jangbi showed that P can be nearly unstoppable if they train their Psi Storm usage to the extent Terrans practice managing their death ball or Zerg practices managing way more units that can be hotkeyed.

Instead Protoss late game skill consists of moving around a bunch of units that are fast and can all be hotkeyed, plus properly using the ridiculously strong spells of a 350 HP (Arbiter) FLYING unit, plus making sure to have some Observers (an invisible flying unit haha) around.

It's insane that a spell as strong (and even totally tech tree compatible given Arbiters) as Psi Storm isn't even mandatory for every PvT. Does any other race leave something that powerful off the table in half its games just because it might be fragile (as if Shuttle dropping HTs is that fragile composted to how fragile everything is in BW)?


Same reason why Ghosts are not the auto-strat against Carriers: it's really hard to pull off, mechanically.

In the end, economy of actions is a thing that matters at all stages of the game and in the strategic side of things as well.


Thing is if anything Protoss shouldn't have any issues with storm in PvT given the fact they use storm in PvZ and it's even harder to use there!


How do you control 3-4 arbiters, shuttles with multiple templars and macro at the same time facing an army of sieged tanks, a ctrl group of goliaths with infinite range and vessels? One mistake against a 3-3 terran army and half of your army is gone.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
March 11 2020 18:44 GMT
#6612
On March 11 2020 23:42 kerpal wrote:
a few of us at work have started playing BW ffas at lunch time and it prompted me to pop back here and say hi. Maybe i'll try to persuade them to watch some ASL games if the timing works out.

Nice to see this game will never die.

Oh, you have awesome colleagues. Tell us whether they enjoyed the matches.
BW
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
March 11 2020 19:17 GMT
#6613
On March 11 2020 21:49 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 21:04 [AS]Rattus wrote:
srsly banning boba for telling the truth?
No prophet is accepted in his own country

He was banned for how he posted, not what he posted.


You cant say "Fuck" on TL?
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
March 12 2020 03:01 GMT
#6614
Fuck no, of course you can. It's the aggressiveness and self-righteousness that got him banned.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
March 12 2020 11:22 GMT
#6615
On March 12 2020 12:01 Highgamer wrote:
Fuck no, of course you can. It's the aggressiveness and self-righteousness that got him banned.


Meh, let the guy speak his mind it ain't hurting anyone.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
March 12 2020 12:52 GMT
#6616
If you have issues, concerns, or questions about a ban, please post in Website Feedback.
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kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
March 12 2020 14:46 GMT
#6617
On March 12 2020 03:44 Amanebak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 23:42 kerpal wrote:
a few of us at work have started playing BW ffas at lunch time and it prompted me to pop back here and say hi. Maybe i'll try to persuade them to watch some ASL games if the timing works out.

Nice to see this game will never die.

Oh, you have awesome colleagues. Tell us whether they enjoyed the matches.

there's a group of 3 of us who play dota together, but one of the other guys said he used to play starcraft (i think the original) on LAN when he was in high school, so we started doing that.

Honestly, I don't enjoy it that much because i'm a bit of a purist, so trying not to stomp in a FFA is a weird way to play, but maybe we'll get there.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10150 Posts
March 12 2020 19:26 GMT
#6618
On March 12 2020 23:46 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2020 03:44 Amanebak wrote:
On March 11 2020 23:42 kerpal wrote:
a few of us at work have started playing BW ffas at lunch time and it prompted me to pop back here and say hi. Maybe i'll try to persuade them to watch some ASL games if the timing works out.

Nice to see this game will never die.

Oh, you have awesome colleagues. Tell us whether they enjoyed the matches.

there's a group of 3 of us who play dota together, but one of the other guys said he used to play starcraft (i think the original) on LAN when he was in high school, so we started doing that.

Honestly, I don't enjoy it that much because i'm a bit of a purist, so trying not to stomp in a FFA is a weird way to play, but maybe we'll get there.

I did this with my high school friends and eventually they just turned into 1v5 anyway so might as well skip to that haha
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MisterBoba
Profile Joined January 2020
Russian Federation121 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-13 12:47:49
March 13 2020 12:47 GMT
#6619
Guys is ok all good health.

Please someone tell me how ramp in recent map look so good? They always use to look bad. Now I guess map maker find better tiles?
If enjoyed way you spend time, then it was not waste time )
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19053 Posts
March 13 2020 13:06 GMT
#6620
I'm pretty sure Blizzard just realized that custom ramps were going to keep being a thing and spent time specifically on it when working on the graphics for remastered
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