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Apparently the reason hes playing bw is because he got banned from LoL for cursing at Tyson lol
Didn't know this about him but apparently from this video he had/has a rage problem from since he was a progamer
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Bisutopia17148 Posts
Poll: Which All Kill Proleague Roster would you pick?"In Prime":Flash,Flash,Flash,Flash (21) 45% "In Prime":Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Fantasy (17) 36% "In Prime":Savior, iloveoov, Nada, Nal_ra (9) 19% 47 total votes Your vote: Which All Kill Proleague Roster would you pick? (Vote): "In Prime":Flash,Flash,Flash,Flash
(Vote): "In Prime":Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Fantasy
(Vote): "In Prime":Savior, iloveoov, Nada, Nal_ra
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United Kingdom11361 Posts
100% Jaedong Stork Bisu Fantasy.
Mainly because of the proleague rule where you need to field at least one of each race in your roster.
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Bisutopia17148 Posts
On September 18 2019 02:33 Qikz wrote:
100% Jaedong Stork Bisu Fantasy.
Mainly because of the proleague rule where you need to field at least one of each race in your roster.
2x Terran Flash, 1x Zerg Flash, 1x Protoss Flash clearly
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United Kingdom11361 Posts
On September 18 2019 02:48 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2019 02:33 Qikz wrote:
100% Jaedong Stork Bisu Fantasy.
Mainly because of the proleague rule where you need to field at least one of each race in your roster. 2x Terran Flash, 1x Zerg Flash, 1x Protoss Flash clearly
I still pick the same.
FanTaSy > FlaSh TvT
Jaedong = FlaSh
Bisu > FlaSh
Stork < FlaSh
3-1 less go
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TLADT23997 Posts
"In Prime":Flash,Flash,Flash,Flash for sure.
No one is better than Flash and a Z/P Flash would be just as deadly as his counterparts.
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i feel like this is a pretty easy flash/flash/flash/flash
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On September 16 2019 23:57 Ideas wrote:
IIRC Ruby was like the only player to got ACE and actually perform better in proleague than before he went lol. And the only one I can think of that went back to a regular team after his service and was actually still fielded in proleague and not just be a glorified mascot like boxer/yellow/reach.
Man I love turning on Flash's or someone's stream in the morning while I'm working and watch them all take turns 1v1ing while the others spectate. It's like modern day proleague haha.
I believe your forgetting Chrh. Now that was a comeback.
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prime flash flash flash JD
protoss generally has lower mechanical requirement and has a more attrition/tactical thinking approach which i think complements Flash skillset well (not imba mechanics but imba decision making/gamesense). (but if its PvZ would still prefer Bisu having the extra edge of multitasking Flash lacks)
Z mid/lategame is more strenuous on the mechanical side which old JD is better in. plus JvZ.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 10 2019 11:07 Burned Toast wrote:
some one explain this to me. a game where zero offraces and kills one of his workers is a recommended view? is it just because he's playing vs cadenzie? weird.
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What's the proper way to do moving-shot micro with a drone? I assume it's just like everything else but maybe you need to actually click on the unit you're chasing with your attack command? Or just the range is smaller than I think it is? I've been trying to do it more in my games but it's really hard to pull off.
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On September 18 2019 23:44 Ideas wrote:
What's the proper way to do moving-shot micro with a drone? I assume it's just like everything else but maybe you need to actually click on the unit you're chasing with your attack command? Or just the range is smaller than I think it is? I've been trying to do it more in my games but it's really hard to pull off.
I Think they just spam click and right click on the scouting workers just like you move-shot with flying units
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United States1349 Posts
On September 18 2019 23:44 Ideas wrote:
What's the proper way to do moving-shot micro with a drone? I assume it's just like everything else but maybe you need to actually click on the unit you're chasing with your attack command? Or just the range is smaller than I think it is? I've been trying to do it more in my games but it's really hard to pull off.
When you're next to/close to the probe, you do (move command hotkey) + left click on the probe, then IMMEDIATELY right click on the probe and right click move to not decelerate. I think you can also do (move command hotkey) + left click on probe, then (attack command hotkey) + left click on probe.
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did pros only become this efficient at using M-click micro since RM (when u can legit put the move command on another convenient hotkey) i dont recall pros being this efficient at getting rid of scouting workers beyond a couple of years ago. even bisu was shocked how his scout probe get buillied/killed so much more quickly then it used to be.
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On September 19 2019 10:19 ggsimida wrote:
did pros only become this efficient at using M-click micro since RM (when u can legit put the move command on another convenient hotkey) i dont recall pros being this efficient at getting rid of scouting workers beyond a couple of years ago. even bisu was shocked how his scout probe get buillied/killed so much more quickly then it used to be.
how do u even attack with m micro? when i hit M and target a unit it doesnt attack anything.
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Something about you press both M+A both on the unit. Like Mutas and workers they don't decelerate as much in between shots.
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ahh so you have to press it at the same time, interesting
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I think you are all underestimating the old school squad in that pool.These people declined before the "modern expansion meta" truly began with TBLS, if you take them in their peak state they would be able to adept to the new meta and reach new heights.
We have not seen anyone dominate TvZ the way oov did during his prime. It doesn't matter who you'd sent out on the other site. If we are truly talking about peak oov, he would destroy Jaedong/Effort/Soulkey/Zero etc. pp. with ease. I'd reckon if we take prime savior, he'd probably even give flash a good run for his money. By the time Flash rose, savior was already busy loosing on purpose. During his prime he literally dominated every single Terran player out there. Nal_ra was so good at protoss, he could actually beat zergs before the PvZ revolution. Just let that sink in for a moment. Before there were six dragons, there were 3 kings of protoss. And Nal_ra certainly deserved to be one of them.
I am not even going to go into Nada. He was Flash before Flash and if Flash hadn't come along, we would still be talking about how unbelievably successful Nada was at a progammer. Sure Flash's 10 starleagues can't be compared, but Flash's second coming was during the current streamer age, where people do not practice the hours they used to. Nada managed to be successful throughout the vast majority of BW's professional scene.
All of these players laid foundations that every player of their respective race still relies upon to this very day and I don't think that, if you'd take them in their prime and let them adapt to the current meta, they'd be the pushovers they were when they were dethroned towards the end of their careers.
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Seriously, can someone add an option to search for 2v2 games in the VOD database? 
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TLADT23997 Posts
On September 20 2019 01:57 Lorch wrote:
I think you are all underestimating the old school squad in that pool.These people declined before the "modern expansion meta" truly began with TBLS, if you take them in their peak state they would be able to adept to the new meta and reach new heights.
We have not seen anyone dominate TvZ the way oov did during his prime. It doesn't matter who you'd sent out on the other site. If we are truly talking about peak oov, he would destroy Jaedong/Effort/Soulkey/Zero etc. pp. with ease. I'd reckon if we take prime savior, he'd probably even give flash a good run for his money. By the time Flash rose, savior was already busy loosing on purpose. During his prime he literally dominated every single Terran player out there. Nal_ra was so good at protoss, he could actually beat zergs before the PvZ revolution. Just let that sink in for a moment. Before there were six dragons, there were 3 kings of protoss. And Nal_ra certainly deserved to be one of them.
I am not even going to go into Nada. He was Flash before Flash and if Flash hadn't come along, we would still be talking about how unbelievably successful Nada was at a progammer. Sure Flash's 10 starleagues can't be compared, but Flash's second coming was during the current streamer age, where people do not practice the hours they used to. Nada managed to be successful throughout the vast majority of BW's professional scene.
All of these players laid foundations that every player of their respective race still relies upon to this very day and I don't think that, if you'd take them in their prime and let them adapt to the current meta, they'd be the pushovers they were when they were dethroned towards the end of their careers.
Sure, maybe there's a bit of an underestimation going on, but I believe some of these past pros (oov comes to mind if I'm not mistaken, think there were more?) talked about Flash for instance and just how far ahead he's thought about a game or his brilliant moves etc... Furthermore, most people are of the mindset that the TBLS era was the most skilled one, and that can be debated imo. I think competition was just as fierce in all eras.
Personally, I would love to see peak oov vs peak Jaedong or Effort for instance or say peak Savior vs peak Flash. Thing is, that won't happen and what it comes down to is what you think is the most skilled. Do I think that the older pros could adapt and reach another peak? sure. I would still take peak Flash over any of them though while others might take peak Jaedong or Bisu etc...
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