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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
September 12 2019 15:29 GMT
#6101
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
September 12 2019 21:50 GMT
#6102
On September 13 2019 00:29 Chris_Havoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.

IIRC all teams were set to participate, then KeSPA changed their mind and didn’t sanction the Gom TV classic. After that a few teams pulled their players.
Fuck KeSPA.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
September 13 2019 00:35 GMT
#6103
On September 13 2019 06:50 oshibori_probe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2019 00:29 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.

IIRC all teams were set to participate, then KeSPA changed their mind and didn’t sanction the Gom TV classic. After that a few teams pulled their players.


It was so weird. The first season had like 7/12 teams participate, then the next season every team that wasn't MBC/OGN/estro participated, then the 3rd season it went back down to 7. It was a cool tournament because a lot of rookies got their first televised matches and got to play in a Bo3 (which also meant that we got see Boxer and other airforce players in Bo3s against players they could actually beat lol).

Anyone else remember Boxer's match against Killer (then known as Baxter lol) where Boxer killed him with nukes?
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 13 2019 00:39 GMT
#6104
Actually, Killer goes by the name of Baxter now since he returned from the military. As for the game, I believe I've seen or heard of it, but a link would be nice.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10149 Posts
September 13 2019 01:09 GMT
#6105
On September 13 2019 09:35 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2019 06:50 oshibori_probe wrote:
On September 13 2019 00:29 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.

IIRC all teams were set to participate, then KeSPA changed their mind and didn’t sanction the Gom TV classic. After that a few teams pulled their players.


It was so weird. The first season had like 7/12 teams participate, then the next season every team that wasn't MBC/OGN/estro participated, then the 3rd season it went back down to 7. It was a cool tournament because a lot of rookies got their first televised matches and got to play in a Bo3 (which also meant that we got see Boxer and other airforce players in Bo3s against players they could actually beat lol).

Anyone else remember Boxer's match against Killer (then known as Baxter lol) where Boxer killed him with nukes?


On September 13 2019 09:39 BigFan wrote:
Actually, Killer goes by the name of Baxter now since he returned from the military. As for the game, I believe I've seen or heard of it, but a link would be nice.


1. The game was actually a ProLeague game, not in GSL. They did play two games in GSL though, and IIRC Boxer lost both of them.

2. Killer used the name "Baxter" since KeSPA days.

3. Here is the nuke game:

https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/30927_BoxeR_vs_Killer
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 13 2019 02:30 GMT
#6106
On September 13 2019 10:09 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2019 09:35 Ideas wrote:
On September 13 2019 06:50 oshibori_probe wrote:
On September 13 2019 00:29 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.

IIRC all teams were set to participate, then KeSPA changed their mind and didn’t sanction the Gom TV classic. After that a few teams pulled their players.


It was so weird. The first season had like 7/12 teams participate, then the next season every team that wasn't MBC/OGN/estro participated, then the 3rd season it went back down to 7. It was a cool tournament because a lot of rookies got their first televised matches and got to play in a Bo3 (which also meant that we got see Boxer and other airforce players in Bo3s against players they could actually beat lol).

Anyone else remember Boxer's match against Killer (then known as Baxter lol) where Boxer killed him with nukes?


Show nested quote +
On September 13 2019 09:39 BigFan wrote:
Actually, Killer goes by the name of Baxter now since he returned from the military. As for the game, I believe I've seen or heard of it, but a link would be nice.


1. The game was actually a ProLeague game, not in GSL. They did play two games in GSL though, and IIRC Boxer lost both of them.

2. Killer used the name "Baxter" since KeSPA days.

3. Here is the nuke game:

https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/30927_BoxeR_vs_Killer

#2: never said otherwise. I'm merely saying that he wanted to go by that name after he came back from the military compared to before it where he kept the Killer handle.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-13 08:47:39
September 13 2019 08:46 GMT
#6107
On September 13 2019 06:50 oshibori_probe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2019 00:29 Chris_Havoc wrote:
On September 12 2019 23:04 Puosu wrote:
Just imagine if OGN Sparkyz players were prohibited from playing the MSL, or MBCGame Heroes couldn't participate in the OSL.

Asshole deal by Afreeca, if thats the case.


Actually that has happened before.

A few teams prohibited their players from competing in the GOMTV Classic Seasons 2 & 3 in 2008/2009 despite the fact the Classics were officially sanctioned KeSPA tournaments.

IIRC all teams were set to participate, then KeSPA changed their mind and didn’t sanction the Gom TV classic. After that a few teams pulled their players.


it wasn't because it was/wasn't sanctioned - it was because the broadcast sponsored teams had a conflict of interest with gomtv and participating in what was perceived to be a competitor's tournament wouldn't make sense (estro was owned by ieg who owned the rights to proleague which explains their abscence).

remember these tournaments ran during a time where blizzard/kespa tensions were at an all-time high. ogn/mbc/ieg didn't want to lose the rights to produce/broadcast their marquee tournaments.
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-13 10:08:38
September 13 2019 10:04 GMT
#6108
Just wanted to share this little BW-fact because maybe some people like me didn't already know about this (rather: I heard but forgot again).

As we all know, if you send a worker to a geyser before the structure on top (refinery, extractor, assimilator) has finished building, the worker will just stand there and not start to work, even if the structure finishes before the worker arrives.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/480772813?t=01h30m28s

FBH explains here how you can cue up workers to mine from a geyser before the necessary structure has finished building by using the gather-command and by timing the command correctly.

The worker will start mining if a) you use the gather-command while the structure is still being built but also b) the workers arrives at the geyser after the structure has finished.

If you do the same with just right-click it won't work.
If the worker arrives before the structure is finished, it won't work, even with gather-command.

Just a little trick but it might come in handy now and then. Let's say your 3rd base's geyser will finish in the next 10 seconds but you really have to pay attention somewhere else, then you can e.g. send workers from another base with the gather-command, and due to their sufficient travel-distance they won't arrive too early and you can make sure that they will start mining.
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-14 12:13:55
September 14 2019 12:11 GMT
#6109
On September 13 2019 19:04 Highgamer wrote:
Just wanted to share this little BW-fact because maybe some people like me didn't already know about this (rather: I heard but forgot again).

As we all know, if you send a worker to a geyser before the structure on top (refinery, extractor, assimilator) has finished building, the worker will just stand there and not start to work, even if the structure finishes before the worker arrives.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/480772813?t=01h30m28s

FBH explains here how you can cue up workers to mine from a geyser before the necessary structure has finished building by using the gather-command and by timing the command correctly.

The worker will start mining if a) you use the gather-command while the structure is still being built but also b) the workers arrives at the geyser after the structure has finished.

If you do the same with just right-click it won't work.
If the worker arrives before the structure is finished, it won't work, even with gather-command.

Just a little trick but it might come in handy now and then. Let's say your 3rd base's geyser will finish in the next 10 seconds but you really have to pay attention somewhere else, then you can e.g. send workers from another base with the gather-command, and due to their sufficient travel-distance they won't arrive too early and you can make sure that they will start mining.

Interesting, what if I spam queue (shift + ghather command)? Whould that earn me more time if my timing suks when it come to workers near geyser?

Edit: what is going on with that 46k ppl watching Brood War on Twitch? o.O
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
September 14 2019 12:24 GMT
#6110
fbh is hosting a korean thanksgiving tournament for prominent korean twitch streamers
Commentator
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-14 23:00:18
September 14 2019 12:30 GMT
#6111
On September 14 2019 21:24 GTR wrote:
fbh is hosting a korean thanksgiving tournament for prominent korean twitch streamers

This is amazing! Great job FBH!
Btw I know those girls streamers, they are super funny xD
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine109 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-15 06:08:00
September 15 2019 06:07 GMT
#6112
Ruby is back! I remember him winning some top players back into the days. Let's wish him fast skill recovery!
His stream on afreeca http://play.afreecatv.com/ckmin706/217259207
Du kan om du vill...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8024 Posts
September 15 2019 09:27 GMT
#6113
On September 15 2019 15:07 marwin wrote:
Ruby is back! I remember him winning some top players back into the days. Let's wish him fast skill recovery!
His stream on afreeca http://play.afreecatv.com/ckmin706/217259207

Ruby!!! He had a beautiful face , I remember !
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AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-15 15:06:33
September 15 2019 10:26 GMT
#6114
On September 14 2019 21:24 GTR wrote:
fbh is hosting a korean thanksgiving tournament for prominent korean twitch streamers

It's basically a Twitch Rivals for Brood War. It makes me so happy

Edit: It makes me happy because despite being ignored by Twitch we make our own Twitch Rivals. This is the real Starcraft spirit which is amazing :D

Edit2: Omg that girl celebrations are so funny xD fully honoring the FBH presence xD

Edit3: So 80k peack on Twitch alone for today event that was very long. Hopefully we'll see more of those going forward #hype
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
September 16 2019 14:57 GMT
#6115
On September 15 2019 15:07 marwin wrote:
Ruby is back! I remember him winning some top players back into the days. Let's wish him fast skill recovery!
His stream on afreeca http://play.afreecatv.com/ckmin706/217259207


IIRC Ruby was like the only player to got ACE and actually perform better in proleague than before he went lol. And the only one I can think of that went back to a regular team after his service and was actually still fielded in proleague and not just be a glorified mascot like boxer/yellow/reach.

Man I love turning on Flash's or someone's stream in the morning while I'm working and watch them all take turns 1v1ing while the others spectate. It's like modern day proleague haha.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
September 16 2019 20:36 GMT
#6116
uh, definitely revising history there. pretty sure he immediately quit and went into acting once he was discharged from ace, as mbcgame disbanded during his tenure in the military.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1023 Posts
September 16 2019 20:44 GMT
#6117
On September 16 2019 23:57 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2019 15:07 marwin wrote:
Ruby is back! I remember him winning some top players back into the days. Let's wish him fast skill recovery!
His stream on afreeca http://play.afreecatv.com/ckmin706/217259207


IIRC Ruby was like the only player to got ACE and actually perform better in proleague than before he went lol. And the only one I can think of that went back to a regular team after his service and was actually still fielded in proleague and not just be a glorified mascot like boxer/yellow/reach.

Man I love turning on Flash's or someone's stream in the morning while I'm working and watch them all take turns 1v1ing while the others spectate. It's like modern day proleague haha.


Yeah, with Bisu Stork Guemchi and ZerO at it pretty much daily, there is definately something going on. Really enjoy it, would only need some new blood in the scene to keep things on~

Wheres MisO, Ample, or even JyJ lately?
Also, ssak should come back soon, right? Miss that guy, so under rated imo
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 16 2019 20:54 GMT
#6118
On September 17 2019 05:44 TornadoSteve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2019 23:57 Ideas wrote:
On September 15 2019 15:07 marwin wrote:
Ruby is back! I remember him winning some top players back into the days. Let's wish him fast skill recovery!
His stream on afreeca http://play.afreecatv.com/ckmin706/217259207


IIRC Ruby was like the only player to got ACE and actually perform better in proleague than before he went lol. And the only one I can think of that went back to a regular team after his service and was actually still fielded in proleague and not just be a glorified mascot like boxer/yellow/reach.

Man I love turning on Flash's or someone's stream in the morning while I'm working and watch them all take turns 1v1ing while the others spectate. It's like modern day proleague haha.


Yeah, with Bisu Stork Guemchi and ZerO at it pretty much daily, there is definately something going on. Really enjoy it, would only need some new blood in the scene to keep things on~

Wheres MisO, Ample, or even JyJ lately?
Also, ssak should come back soon, right? Miss that guy, so under rated imo


MisO said he didn't play like a month or so last ASL, don't know reasons, he got smoked pretty fast. Ample was making good runs lately, I'm looking forward to see him next ASL.

I always said how sSak is underrated, guy used to be top terran until Last hit his pride, even then he was taking games off him and almost knocked off Bisu from ro8. From what others say dude likes drinking and watching girl BJs but still perform at a top level whenever he plays.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
September 17 2019 04:11 GMT
#6119
On September 17 2019 05:36 GTR wrote:
uh, definitely revising history there. pretty sure he immediately quit and went into acting once he was discharged from ace, as mbcgame disbanded during his tenure in the military.


Damn I guess you're right. Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else? Anyone discharge from ACE and go back to being a proleague regular on a different team?
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manjuarmulla
Profile Joined September 2019
1 Post
September 17 2019 10:32 GMT
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