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9-BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1089 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-03 03:44:18
April 03 2019 03:44 GMT
#5581
On April 03 2019 09:55 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2019 08:52 Dazed. wrote:

The player that gave the terran champion the most difficulty on that given day is by default defined by the series scores (as in players who pushed the terran champion to a game five in the finals).
No...no it isnt. Whoever challenged him the most challenged him the most, we dont need some braindead useless contextless heuristic so we can snort and say "well, technically such and such did better because of score", an utterly useless barometer. x player cheeses blindly two games in a row, winning them, to be crushed three times. How could it possibly be said he challenged a player more than someone who actually challenged that player and brought them to the brink in four games, even if the overall result was 3-1?


Because this is competitive Brood War with clear end objectives, and the end objective is to win, not impress you specifically by winning less but creating a more fulfilling spectating experience on the way down. The player who reached game five by definition was closer to achieving his end objective of winning the series than the dude who played quality games but got beaten in four games. Who is to say the dude who got raped in all of the standard games had it in him to win two more games off cheap cheeses if the series hypothetically extended into a best-of-seven, and perhaps the dude who pushed the eventual champion to the brink in the orthodox matches would have lost in the exact same manner again and again to lose 1-4 in a hypothetical best-of-seven scenario.

You can claim that the player who performed worse was superior by other measures, such as overall ability, or competitive excellence elsewhere, to the player who performed better on that day. However, there is no rhyme or reason for you to get to override the actual competitive results for that given day on the basis of your personal spectating experience. This isn't figure skating.

Establish objective measures first, then discuss the nuances of those objectives afterwards if you are insightful enough. Otherwise you can ignore any reality that is not to your liking by citing it is based on a mere technicality, and replace it with your own imaginary interpretation of what happened. I'm not here to discuss what you thought happened, I'm citing what actually happened.

based
kwark_uk: @father_sc learn to play maybe?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
April 06 2019 06:01 GMT
#5582
anyone know why light's toss games don't show up on sponbbang?
Commentator
FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
April 06 2019 11:56 GMT
#5583
His protoss games are under the name 호로토스

sponbbang.com
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos251 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-06 15:20:52
April 06 2019 15:20 GMT
#5584
I'm looking for informations about eon's journey in korea, anyone know when he will attempt to qualify to ASL/KSL ? I'd like to follow his journey but there are no infos anywhere.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 07 2019 01:41 GMT
#5585
On April 07 2019 00:20 ppp87 wrote:
I'm looking for informations about eon's journey in korea, anyone know when he will attempt to qualify to ASL/KSL ? I'd like to follow his journey but there are no infos anywhere.

from his twitter it looks like it already happened https://twitter.com/eonzerg
brood war for life, brood war forever
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 07 2019 01:46 GMT
#5586
does anyone have any recommendations for ways of practicing micro on my own? I have some UMS maps for some specific things (e.g. Muta vs Scourge), but I don't know of a good way to practice general zerg micro (ling, hydra, lurker/ling, defiler, etc)
brood war for life, brood war forever
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
April 07 2019 03:07 GMT
#5587
there's some old school ums micro situation maps that might be worth checking out (found these in my ums folder)

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=77888543062860513742
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
April 07 2019 07:37 GMT
#5588
eon, how is Korea? report! :D
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
GunSlinger
Profile Joined June 2006
614 Posts
April 07 2019 16:10 GMT
#5589
On April 07 2019 10:46 Crunchums wrote:
does anyone have any recommendations for ways of practicing micro on my own? I have some UMS maps for some specific things (e.g. Muta vs Scourge), but I don't know of a good way to practice general zerg micro (ling, hydra, lurker/ling, defiler, etc)


You can easily practice Zerg micro techniques against the computer Terran. In fact, the MnM push that the computer opponent does at around 6 minutes will be at roughly the same time a human opponent might push out if they were to play a standard Fast Exp -> 2 Rax -> Academy -> Etc. So with a little imagination you can pretend that it is a real game and practice standard 3 Hatch -> Muta timings to your heart's content!

The key with this is to force yourself to actually practice the micro while keeping up with all the other tasks you would have to perform in a regular game. This will only help you to improve with decent focus and a clear goal. Try to only snipe Medics and lone Marines in the computer's base, specifically target certain buildings, only kill SCVs when there are not any Marines on the screen, stuff like that. Pretend it is a human, and imagine how a person might react, if that helps. The computer reacts decently enough to Muta harass to make this a worthwhile exercise in map awareness, Mutalisk micro and overall Zerg macro versus Terran. Once you have essentially gutted the computer's base with your Muta harass, simply restart the match. Repeat a few times a day and I guarantee you will see improvement.

It follows similarly with other Zerg micro techniques. For Defiler/Ling micro, put yourself against 2 computer Terran opponents and do a standard 3 Hatch -> Muta -> Lurker/Ling -> Hive/Defiler build. Practice using your Mutas and Lings to fight the Terran infantry groups, as this is an important skill to have in a real game against a strong opponent. While doing that, tech regularly to Defiler and get your third up. Once you have defilers out you can practice sending Defiler/Ling attacks across the map and then casting Dark Swarm, etc.

In my experience, using Lurker/Ling against the computer and using it in a game against a person isn't really comparable, since even noob Terran players know to snipe Lurkers before they burrow, and kite Lings backwards. The Terran computer just stands there stupidly, letting the Lurkers burrow and the Zerglings close the distance easily. So it won't be helpful to practice that as much, if at all. But again, with a little imagination, you can force yourself to play as if it were a person if you really want to. Here you would basically be practicing your chosen technique of managing that army composition on the map, more than realistically practicing the micro-management techniques themselves. Which still has value if you need to work on moving large armies.

Of course, there are plenty of UMS micro maps out there, but I thought this was worth mentioning. I perfected worker splits (for example) years ago by practicing it against the computer 10 - 20 times everyday. It took very little time and I never had to open Battle.net. I just used the small amount of free time I had efficiently.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19344 Posts
April 08 2019 12:41 GMT
#5590
[image loading]
What a badass. Playing on the classic vods right now.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
April 08 2019 12:43 GMT
#5591
When does ksl s3 start?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19344 Posts
April 08 2019 15:30 GMT
#5592
On April 08 2019 21:43 Timebon3s wrote:
When does ksl s3 start?

https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/545463-ksl3-ro16-groups-schedule
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
April 08 2019 16:11 GMT
#5593
Thanks bro
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
April 09 2019 14:48 GMT
#5594


where can we find more of this event (this year's)

https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8857 Posts
April 11 2019 05:50 GMT
#5595
stork became a father a day or two ago. its a baby boy
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1451 Posts
April 11 2019 09:29 GMT
#5596
Nice, I bet he did the delivery himself.
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 14:29:35
April 11 2019 12:21 GMT
#5597
Well, Britney is actually watching BW to the point of 40k viewers including 6k on Twitch.
Please don't bash me, I'm just celebrating my esport passion since 2005.

*11k twitch
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
April 11 2019 15:25 GMT
#5598
why would anyone bash you for it
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-11 16:12:07
April 11 2019 15:58 GMT
#5599
On April 12 2019 00:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
why would anyone bash you for it

Trolls come and go, you know :/

Edit
On April 08 2019 21:41 BisuDagger wrote:
[image loading]
What a badass. Playing on the classic vods right now.

Did Elky end up with pink hair or it was someone else?
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26762 Posts
April 11 2019 16:04 GMT
#5600
Not specifically about BW, but for me basically solely concerning Brood War, as it's the only thing I want to really see.

Why can't I watch Afreeca streams? I have no issue with Twitch, but with Afreeca ones it'll display the preview thumbnail fine, the chat will work fine, but the video and audio will just not play.

I'm not getting any kind of error message to direct me to what might be the issue, I've turned off ad block, I've tried other browsers and still no joy.

Thanks in advance folks
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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