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onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
February 22 2018 23:59 GMT
#4441
On February 23 2018 02:47 jinjin5000 wrote:
On sparkle map:

Show nested quote +
sparkle is so bad, if i win a tvz vs viewer, I should get spon $$$

- flash

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this map is so bad that it belongs in the default broodwar map section,
not in a professional tournament. Mapmaker wasn't even thinking when he made this

-larva

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lol

-stork

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if any zerg votes for this map, they have no shame. That said, let's gooooooooooo! Everyone vote for it!

-JD and other zergs


that was so expected just 1 look at the map pool and boy what a gimmicky freakshow
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
February 23 2018 00:36 GMT
#4442
What's tesagi?
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
February 23 2018 03:13 GMT
#4443
On February 23 2018 09:36 ne4aJIb wrote:
What's tesagi?


state of BW since 2001
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4409 Posts
February 23 2018 13:47 GMT
#4444
On February 23 2018 08:59 onlystar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2018 02:47 jinjin5000 wrote:
On sparkle map:

sparkle is so bad, if i win a tvz vs viewer, I should get spon $$$

- flash

this map is so bad that it belongs in the default broodwar map section,
not in a professional tournament. Mapmaker wasn't even thinking when he made this

-larva

lol

-stork

if any zerg votes for this map, they have no shame. That said, let's gooooooooooo! Everyone vote for it!

-JD and other zergs


that was so expected just 1 look at the map pool and boy what a gimmicky freakshow

Were the comments made before or after they removed the creep from the naturals? They had to really, it was pretty ridiculous before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Fumapl
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
59 Posts
March 02 2018 22:27 GMT
#4445
Starcraft Rap:


Fana - Rhymonic Storm
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1769 Posts
March 05 2018 15:04 GMT
#4446
does anyone know when 2x2 ladder is coming out? its been almost a year of scr now but theres no team matchmaking.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 05 2018 15:08 GMT
#4447
i want 2v2 ladder too, scr team said it's in the works for 2018 but who knows

it's been 6 months tho not a year
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1769 Posts
March 05 2018 15:52 GMT
#4448
On March 06 2018 00:08 Dead9 wrote:
i want 2v2 ladder too, scr team said it's in the works for 2018 but who knows

it's been 6 months tho not a year


oh right sorry it was released in summer
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3469 Posts
March 05 2018 16:20 GMT
#4449
The 20th anniversary would be a great moment to release the 2x2 ladder... Let us hope
Horang2 fan
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
March 05 2018 16:59 GMT
#4450
2v2 ladder would be more "fun" and better for the casual players I guess, team play is really fun I agree but really I think there should be other elements added / fixed, or prioritized beforehand like...

Clan Support
Automated Tournaments
Rework ladder Tiers / system to iCCup / PGT & or Game-i type
Merge USEast / USWest if not all the servers due to lack of public games(outside of Korea)
Que times outside of Korea
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
March 05 2018 18:23 GMT
#4451
On March 06 2018 01:59 GGzerG wrote:
Merge USEast / USWest


I still can't believe this hasnt been done yet..
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Vitlich
Profile Joined November 2016
32 Posts
March 05 2018 18:43 GMT
#4452
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany912 Posts
March 05 2018 19:07 GMT
#4453
On March 06 2018 03:43 Vitlich wrote:
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.

How is the 2v2 ladder implemented in SC2?
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
March 05 2018 20:55 GMT
#4454
On March 06 2018 03:43 Vitlich wrote:
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.

It's not really reprojecting UI too much, nothing that would be too hard for them to do really, code in 2 extra players into a match making que ( for the opposing team), the MMR matching in team games in SC2 isn't even really accurate, so i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard, in 2018, when they have already done it in several other games in the past...
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
March 05 2018 20:57 GMT
#4455
On March 06 2018 04:07 Cryoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 03:43 Vitlich wrote:
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.

How is the 2v2 ladder implemented in SC2?


without lag
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 21:28:38
March 05 2018 21:23 GMT
#4456
On March 06 2018 05:55 GGzerG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 03:43 Vitlich wrote:
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.

It's not really reprojecting UI too much, nothing that would be too hard for them to do really, code in 2 extra players into a match making que ( for the opposing team), the MMR matching in team games in SC2 isn't even really accurate, so i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard, in 2018, when they have already done it in several other games in the past...

It should be quite easy and rather quick to do. After all conceptually you could even just consider each team of 2 players as one player with a certain MMR while queuing and use these on the same autoMM logic? The most probable issue would be due to population and slowness of the base autoMM. Then custom games enabled 2v2 ladder would likely solve that (or fill the gap). There are a bunch of different ways to deal with AT or RT or not and rating results as discussed before, mostly thats just value tweaking.. well I guess if RT or at least a random spot in a team you can't just set a team's value before queueing gives some result but they know how to do that..
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4409 Posts
March 05 2018 21:59 GMT
#4457
On March 06 2018 00:04 ICanFlyLow wrote:
does anyone know when 2x2 ladder is coming out? its been almost a year of scr now but theres no team matchmaking.

Pretty much the only thing that will bring me back to the game now since the patch that changed latency bars in lobbies came out a month ago.Went from seeing 90% of people as 4-5G to now seeing 90% as 1R.Get banned from over half of lobbies now, although can easily play on TR12 extra high.The same is true for all Australian players.

Literally Blizzard killed the game for Aussies but when the # of games dwindle on West and Europe you won't be able to play on Korea.Anything under 4G is a ban there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
March 05 2018 22:36 GMT
#4458
On March 06 2018 06:23 ProMeTheus112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 05:55 GGzerG wrote:
On March 06 2018 03:43 Vitlich wrote:
I can't imagine 2v2 ladder working without reprojecting UI - how in prestent one we should make teams? I'd say it demands something like teams in HotS If devs are thinking that way we may wait quite long for 2v2.

It's not really reprojecting UI too much, nothing that would be too hard for them to do really, code in 2 extra players into a match making que ( for the opposing team), the MMR matching in team games in SC2 isn't even really accurate, so i'm sure it wouldn't be too hard, in 2018, when they have already done it in several other games in the past...

It should be quite easy and rather quick to do. After all conceptually you could even just consider each team of 2 players as one player with a certain MMR while queuing and use these on the same autoMM logic? The most probable issue would be due to population and slowness of the base autoMM. Then custom games enabled 2v2 ladder would likely solve that (or fill the gap). There are a bunch of different ways to deal with AT or RT or not and rating results as discussed before, mostly thats just value tweaking.. well I guess if RT or at least a random spot in a team you can't just set a team's value before queueing gives some result but they know how to do that..

Right that is exactly what I was thinking, not sure what you mean by AT / RT though...

Happy Birthday by the way!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-05 23:13:19
March 05 2018 23:12 GMT
#4459
thanks

it's just that, in W3 (and I think sc2?), there is a separation between arranged team and random team for ladder. Personally I think its better not to split these two ways of forming teams though it's possibly good to account for it in some way in the rating we discussed this before quite a bit in a topic.
(there can be a big drawback of AT where you have little incentive to play with other than your usual teammate(s) because then the rating for that new team would be reset [if using whole team rating for AT instead of individual], if you just mix AT and RT together its more seemless and practical for matching but ofc AT has a significant inherent advantage which you could account for (some malus if playing vs RT for example or bonus to RT) or just let it get better ratings naturally)
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2720 Posts
March 06 2018 08:15 GMT
#4460
Did my eye trick me or I just saw "ForGG" in the SC:BW streams section? But when I went there, the stream was offline oO
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
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