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CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
February 08 2018 17:05 GMT
#4401
since the last patch i keep getting matched with people who are 600points lower than me in mmr and i gain 0pts if i win. seems cruel to match me against like 1300mmr players every other game and alsoa waste of time for us both honestly.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 17:09:43
February 08 2018 17:09 GMT
#4402
On February 09 2018 02:05 CadenZa wrote:
since the last patch i keep getting matched with people who are 600points lower than me in mmr and i gain 0pts if i win. seems cruel to match me against like 1300mmr players every other game and alsoa waste of time for us both honestly.

Eonzerg
93 posts
2 hours ago
(Edited)
since the last patch im playing most of games TR10 Tr8 TR12,rare case playing TR16 extra, now with this update im facing players with a very low MMR despite me using IDS around 2500,2000.

but yeah games are low latency except one korean i faced that the games was TR16 L2

good to know im not the only,
bad to know that this trash remastered is worse and worse and worse,
angrypofke
Profile Joined March 2017
Lithuania174 Posts
February 08 2018 18:47 GMT
#4403
Well, people were whining when they got matched with Koreans cuz lag. So blizzard adjusted it. We all knew what would happen if they did.

Blizzard can't "create" more players, they can only adjust the lag vs player pool balance. Doesn't really make sense to bash the remastered for that
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
February 08 2018 18:53 GMT
#4404
On February 09 2018 03:47 angrypofke wrote:
Well, people were whining when they got matched with Koreans cuz lag. So blizzard adjusted it. We all knew what would happen if they did.

Blizzard can't "create" more players, they can only adjust the lag vs player pool balance. Doesn't really make sense to bash the remastered for that

im even lagging with a player from russia that we played countless games on iccup without problems,all cuz this retarded turn rate drops to TR10 TR8 for no reason.
oh im not bashing this incomplete game for that reason,is just one more to the list.before the last patch i was most of games tr16 L1,now is worse than ever.

Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
February 08 2018 19:14 GMT
#4405
is there a thread for the status of asl5? or is it just piecemeal from different threads
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-08 21:14:31
February 08 2018 21:04 GMT
#4406
honestly, it seems that custom games ladder is > automatic matchmaker, especially a bad automatic matchmaker. its kinda obvious. they would know at blizzard if they played it
for me the matchmaker is so slow, I just quickly stopped playing. its not good enough. So I play other games, and come back to bw for some cws
of course i'm out of practice and I'm not contributing to the game as much as if I played regularly. also, because of new worsened lag and bug problems when multiple people join a game instead of just 2, the experience is not very good.
so yeah, starcraft : demastered
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
February 09 2018 10:21 GMT
#4407
Hello does anyone here remember that old thread about drawing getting a guy across the canyon? It's been years but I can't seem to find it anymore.
GANDHISAUCE
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9554 Posts
February 09 2018 13:58 GMT
#4408
On February 09 2018 19:21 De4ngus wrote:
Hello does anyone here remember that old thread about drawing getting a guy across the canyon? It's been years but I can't seem to find it anymore.

This is the thread, but most of the images are dead now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/105310-draw-your-way-across-the-cliff
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
February 09 2018 21:44 GMT
#4409
Thanks!
GANDHISAUCE
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1558 Posts
February 20 2018 05:38 GMT
#4410
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?
MMA_fan_
Profile Joined October 2017
United States35 Posts
February 20 2018 06:16 GMT
#4411
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?


Wow, Stork is a balance whiner. I never would have guessed. :/
jangbi and bisu are my favorite players
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1558 Posts
February 20 2018 06:22 GMT
#4412
yea, so is Zero lol
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 07:05:18
February 20 2018 06:50 GMT
#4413
It is nothing all that new though, non-terran players will always whine. Even the slightest imbalance will not go unnoticed, and if people think terran players such as Flash will keep a stiff upper lip whatever their circumstances happen to be, they are severely mistaken.

While Flash always throws fits of indignation out whenever somebody dares to mention a potential imbalance in favour of the terran race, he personally had zero problems saying that the protoss race was thoroughly broken when he competed as a Starcraft 2 professional.

When a news site asked one hundred professional gamers in 2004, on the topic of what made them regret picking their race of choice, these issues came up the most frequently:

Terran professionals

1) There is nothing to complain about: 20 out of 41 terran users
2) It is too mechanically intensive: 6 out of 41 terran users
3) Other players accuse terran of being imbalanced: 4 out of 41 terran users

Zerg professionals

1) Zerg loses too easily to the terran race: 16 out of 36 zerg users
2) Bunker rush is too powerful: 9 out of 36 zerg users
3) 8 rax is too powerful: 3 out of 36 zerg users

Protoss professionals

1) When the maps make it impossible to defeat the zerg race: 8 out of 22 protoss users
2) When the maps make it impossible to defeat either zerg or terran: 3 out of 22 protoss users
3) When the maps are unfavourable for the protoss race: 2 out of 22 protoss users

It has been this way ever since I started following the professional scene. Zerg and protoss whining about their trials and tribulations, and the terran race telling others to man up. It has less to do with how whiny the individuals are (although Stork is whiny as fuck), but rather how frustrated the players are with the gaming balance and the current status of the meta-game. There is a reason why historically speaking, you rarely see whiny terran players.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5818 Posts
February 20 2018 07:45 GMT
#4414
Considering how hard Stork has smashed Terrans in his glory days, his PvT whining gets extra funny. Stork whining at all is funny to me, because he has been a top Protoss player even while playing tons of WoW.
FBH #1!
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 09:00:47
February 20 2018 08:59 GMT
#4415
On February 20 2018 14:38 jinjin5000 wrote:
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?


I love 5 and 6. :D These are golden.

As for tesagi thing, I still believe it's the Flash effect. Noone comes close to how he plays. And it just happened that many terrans can learn from him (but they still can't do it the same ofc)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
February 20 2018 09:35 GMT
#4416
On February 20 2018 16:45 Peeano wrote:
Considering how hard Stork has smashed Terrans in his glory days, his PvT whining gets extra funny. Stork whining at all is funny to me, because he has been a top Protoss player even while playing tons of WoW.

There's no winning here for Stork.

You imply it invalidates what he is saying because he is (was) good at PvT, but you must also recognise were he bad at PvT you would also consider that to invalidate his point, probably even more so.
~
MMA_fan_
Profile Joined October 2017
United States35 Posts
February 20 2018 09:40 GMT
#4417
It doesn't invalidate anything. It just makes it funny and ironic. I don't think that was the implication at all, and I also think you're reading too much in to it.
jangbi and bisu are my favorite players
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 20 2018 09:41 GMT
#4418
On February 20 2018 14:38 jinjin5000 wrote:
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?

I think, this isn't Stork's official statement. Maybe, he talked while he was living stream with his fan.

Excuse me, I don't understand some statement of Stork. Please explain them for me.

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP) -) what's HP?
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ. Protoss will be win zerg when zerg player use 9pool speed?
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around? -) This meaning: Stork asked to block stream gosu who participate the ASL?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.

Thank you!



https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-20 09:55:32
February 20 2018 09:54 GMT
#4419
On February 20 2018 18:41 bovienchien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 14:38 jinjin5000 wrote:
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?

I think, this isn't Stork's official statement. Maybe, he talked while he was living stream with his fan.

Excuse me, I don't understand some statement of Stork. Please explain them for me.

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP) -) what's HP?
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ. Protoss will be win zerg when zerg player use 9pool speed?
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around? -) This meaning: Stork asked to block stream gosu who participate the ASL?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.

Thank you!





1. Dismisses the other person's opinion because they play Terran.
2. HP is hitpoints, he means SCVs can take a lot of damage.
7. Saying he has a better chance of winning versus Zerg if Stork actually offraced as Zerg.
8. If you keep doing zergling runbys, you might get shot in real life (said jokingly).
13. His fans suggested Stork should practice without streaming to improve his chances in the ASL.
14. Ygosu is a Korean forum.
Tyrant.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
February 20 2018 10:13 GMT
#4420
On February 20 2018 18:54 Jae Zedong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2018 18:41 bovienchien wrote:
On February 20 2018 14:38 jinjin5000 wrote:
Stork's Top 17 Statement Towards BW Balance

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP)
3. How could I win against gun units with knife wielding units?
4. Just choosing terran is an ability itself
5. Your $100 and my $100 may be the same, but terran's 200 and protoss's 200 are not
6. Terran beats zerg, Zerg beats protoss, and protoss beats protoss.
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
9. Spider mines need to take up supply
10. Rax FE is best build for all matchups.
11. I will try to make JaeDong say "Tesagi" from his own mouth
12. I know why Blizzard won't release patch for Protoss. Its because Mike Morhaime is a Terran user.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.
15. Its impossible for protoss to have new meta and builds. Its because the units are garbage and expensive, and the units become shittier later game, so its impossible for new meta to come out.
16 [after effort 9pool'd him on Longinus] Wtf, at least give me time to get probes on each of the 10 minerals...
17. No, how can I cheese when terran goes CC first?

I think, this isn't Stork's official statement. Maybe, he talked while he was living stream with his fan.

Excuse me, I don't understand some statement of Stork. Please explain them for me.

1. Klol ur terran
2. Terran SCV is like a building (in HP) -) what's HP?
7. You have better chance trying 9pool speed coinflip in zvz rather than play PvZ. Protoss will be win zerg when zerg player use 9pool speed?
8. If you keep doing ling runby, you might get runby'd irl.
13. (After being eliminated from ASL RO24) Practice while not streaming? There are no streamers who practice with their stream off you retard. You think I didn't ask around? -) This meaning: Stork asked to block stream gosu who participate the ASL?
14. Ygosu bastards are little bitches. But with my standards, I am bit of a little bitch as well.

Thank you!





1. Dismisses the other person's opinion because they play Terran.
2. HP is hitpoints, he means SCVs can take a lot of damage.
7. Saying he has a better chance of winning versus Zerg if Stork actually offraced as Zerg.
8. If you keep doing zergling runbys, you might get shot in real life (said jokingly).
13. His fans suggested Stork should practice without streaming to improve his chances in the ASL.
14. Ygosu is a Korean forum.

Thank, I have understanded them so your help. Stork is a very funny man :D
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