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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 13:09:58
July 31 2015 21:43 GMT
#2441
On August 01 2015 04:44 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 04:38 Hesmyrr wrote:
I hope problem with the upcoming events get fixed soon, since I solely rely on it to track all BW tournaments. Would be said to miss SSL accidentally.

R1CH and co are currently working on fixing all the bugs they introduced with this change. Hopefully they'll have it fixed soon.

OP for the Live Report threads better be on point, just so that I don't have to go through effort of having to discover the specific start time!

Also R.I.P. TLPD

EDIT: Nice
NO WAIT DID I JUST MISS HERO VS MONG
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5964 Posts
July 31 2015 22:27 GMT
#2442
Regarding the new site layout: I'm mostly sad how personal settings weren't saved and how I had to redo all my site settings left and right sidebar settings all over again (not the first time this happened btw).
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To be fair, I bet for SC2 fans who don't care about BW it'll be vice versa.

I'm also hoping TLPD will return soon.
FBH #1!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10873 Posts
July 31 2015 23:59 GMT
#2443
On July 29 2015 07:20 BingbingBOPOMOFO wrote:
Could someone assist me in troubleshooting my inability to host a game? I can't get anyone to help me on iCCup. I'm sitting in OP teamliquid at the moment. If you could spare a few minutes to assist me much would be appreciated.

- Bingbing

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/396593-the-scbw-port-forward-help-thread

Hope this helps.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
August 03 2015 15:45 GMT
#2444
Hey guys. How's the scene these days? I watched a stream yesterday and kinda enjoyed just looking at Broodwar again.
Installed the game, played a game and now I'm kinda on the fence if I should relearn it.

Is iccup still active? How about the korean scene?
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 03 2015 15:47 GMT
#2445
On August 04 2015 00:45 Jayson X wrote:
Hey guys. How's the scene these days? I watched a stream yesterday and kinda enjoyed just looking at Broodwar again.
Installed the game, played a game and now I'm kinda on the fence if I should relearn it.

Is iccup still active? How about the korean scene?


Iccup still pretty active now that we have the TLC and the TLS under way. Korean scene is better than before with the last Ro8 match being done for the SSL then we're jumping right into the Ro4 for that. Things are great and are only going to get better!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
August 03 2015 16:09 GMT
#2446
On August 04 2015 00:45 Jayson X wrote:
Hey guys. How's the scene these days? I watched a stream yesterday and kinda enjoyed just looking at Broodwar again.
Installed the game, played a game and now I'm kinda on the fence if I should relearn it.

Is iccup still active? How about the korean scene?


korean scene vods: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=41#814
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
August 04 2015 23:13 GMT
#2447
Anyone here have a web server? I want to research the League system, PM me.
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 09 2015 01:44 GMT
#2448
I'm watching Dota 2 TI now, and their beginner stream is pretty good as they explain the game to people who never played it. Maybe if anyone is interested, they may cast a seperate stream of the usual Sayle stream to focus more on explaining what's happening.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-11 18:56:12
August 11 2015 18:53 GMT
#2449
On August 09 2015 10:44 duke91 wrote:
I'm watching Dota 2 TI now, and their beginner stream is pretty good as they explain the game to people who never played it. Maybe if anyone is interested, they may cast a seperate stream of the usual Sayle stream to focus more on explaining what's happening.


Sayle is the real deal here he is a hype caster and analyzer in one package although i have been out of the bw loop for a long time but i think there isn't some one who could spare their time to stream a beginner 101 to starcraft broodwar because the person who is going to stream and cast about it has to be very knowledgeable about the game and also at the same time sound entertaining to keep people interested in to the knowledge that they are going through and not taken into the account he has to cast the on going battle in the game at the same time . Pretty taxing for one person to be doing it...

Edit : not pouncing you or anything . .... TLDR : I think there isn't much casters available to do this kind of stream considering how few of us are left.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
August 13 2015 14:59 GMT
#2450
On August 09 2015 10:44 duke91 wrote:
I'm watching Dota 2 TI now, and their beginner stream is pretty good as they explain the game to people who never played it. Maybe if anyone is interested, they may cast a seperate stream of the usual Sayle stream to focus more on explaining what's happening.

You might try the Blizzcon Invitational videos from over the years, or WCG videos if you don't mind a retrospective, as that is the kind of casting they aimed to do.

Brood War has lots of depth, but it's not so hard to enjoy watching even if you don't have a caster explaining the nuances of it to you. Just play 5 games with your friends, you will basically know what's going on in the game as much as any cast aimed at beginners would inform you. Likewise you can find a lets play or those casts I mentioned above if you can't install the game, and then start watching Sayle or the Korean casters as a different kind of stepping stone. But playing the game a few times is worth it just to get a feel for what the players are doing and how good they are.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1210 Posts
August 13 2015 15:10 GMT
#2451
On August 04 2015 00:45 Jayson X wrote:
Hey guys. How's the scene these days? I watched a stream yesterday and kinda enjoyed just looking at Broodwar again.
Installed the game, played a game and now I'm kinda on the fence if I should relearn it.

Is iccup still active? How about the korean scene?

A new Nation Wars is starting to get organized.
Flash should fear Sacsri
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10569 Posts
August 13 2015 16:25 GMT
#2452
On August 09 2015 10:44 duke91 wrote:
I'm watching Dota 2 TI now, and their beginner stream is pretty good as they explain the game to people who never played it. Maybe if anyone is interested, they may cast a seperate stream of the usual Sayle stream to focus more on explaining what's happening.

It's difficult to find people who will cater down to that level for casting. Because we as casters need to be entertaining and exciting to our audience which, considering how old this game is and how few newcomers there are, forces us to automatically assume our audience is already familiar with Starcraft. I mean, I'm all for this idea, but only if we had a much greater inflow of new people and help them stay.
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 14 2015 13:03 GMT
#2453
On August 14 2015 01:25 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:44 duke91 wrote:
I'm watching Dota 2 TI now, and their beginner stream is pretty good as they explain the game to people who never played it. Maybe if anyone is interested, they may cast a seperate stream of the usual Sayle stream to focus more on explaining what's happening.

It's difficult to find people who will cater down to that level for casting. Because we as casters need to be entertaining and exciting to our audience which, considering how old this game is and how few newcomers there are, forces us to automatically assume our audience is already familiar with Starcraft. I mean, I'm all for this idea, but only if we had a much greater inflow of new people and help them stay.

I started watching Brood War around mid-2013 when Bisu returned.

I did not need catering. Just go on Liquipedia and read as much as you can along with FPV VODs.

Some of the articles need to be updated tho. I should probably get on that.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
August 14 2015 15:36 GMT
#2454
protoss and zerg rely heavily on ability like swarm and stasis, terran not so much on mine, you can win without it at least against zerg if they do not use swarm, and maybe against toss too with mass supply for blocking and liath tank
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 14 2015 19:13 GMT
#2455
On August 15 2015 00:36 Garmer wrote:
protoss and zerg rely heavily on ability like swarm and stasis, terran not so much on mine, you can win without it at least against zerg if they do not use swarm, and maybe against toss too with mass supply for blocking and liath tank

Don't forget the oh so crucial storm in PvZ, a big equalizer in the match-up, if not more than Dark Swarm in ZvT.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-15 09:20:44
August 15 2015 09:17 GMT
#2456
On July 29 2015 06:12 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2015 22:25 Essbee wrote:
Hello, I have a small request: Could anyone help me find stats for races separated by individual and team leagues? I would like to know this for the Kespa-era.

So what I would like to see is something like:

Individual leagues TvZ: XX%
Individual leagues ZvP: XX%
Individual leagues PvT: XX%

Team leagues TvZ: XX%
Team leagues ZvP: XX%
Team leagues PvT: XX%

It's quite simple (I guess) but I don't know how to easily find this in the TLPD.

Thank you!

Alas, I don't think this is possible as an automated calculation in TLPD without access to the SQL tables themselves or the raw dataset --

For individual standard leagues (non-show matches):
v 1254-1042 or 54.6%
v 1192-1139 or 51.1%
v 1871-1597 or 54.0%

For team standard leagues (non-show matches)
v 709-644 or 52.4%
v 742-702 or 51.4%
v 800-684 or 53.9%



Hmm... just a tiny dash of imba, eh? But not too bad.

Does conform to the often-mentioned 'Z > P > T > Z' thing, though.

User was warned for being hilarious
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 15 2015 18:47 GMT
#2457
Sometimes I think about the epic, legendary games not played since 2012. The talent of Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Storku and Jangbi wasted at their primes on SC2. As there is a parallel universe where Blizzard never decided to make SC2 so that we could have enjoyed TBLS duke it out more. Considering how many legendary games each year have been produced, it is a travesty to have such talents waste their time. Look at what Fantasy is doing now: basically being a recruit for some no name western team, such as some US West korean semi pros played for some no name European tournaments on the weekend for a few euros. Not to think about what Stork even does these days.......

At least we have BW coming back :D
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 15 2015 19:57 GMT
#2458
On August 16 2015 03:47 duke91 wrote:
Sometimes I think about the epic, legendary games not played since 2012. The talent of Jaedong, Flash, Fantasy, Storku and Jangbi wasted at their primes on SC2. As there is a parallel universe where Blizzard never decided to make SC2 so that we could have enjoyed TBLS duke it out more. Considering how many legendary games each year have been produced, it is a travesty to have such talents waste their time. Look at what Fantasy is doing now: basically being a recruit for some no name western team, such as some US West korean semi pros played for some no name European tournaments on the weekend for a few euros. Not to think about what Stork even does these days.......

At least we have BW coming back :D

Stork will probably go to HearthStone, he was a big fan of WoW for a while.

While Jaedong and Stork have shown their BW skills gone at Homestory Cup BW showmatch, I'm not entirely convinced Flash is beyond hope. We never seen him play BW for a while, we'll see when he gets on the Afreeca train.
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
August 19 2015 16:00 GMT
#2459
Apropos of nothing, I'd just like to say... this guy understands life:


[image loading]
User was warned for being hilarious
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7176 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-19 16:27:00
August 19 2015 16:20 GMT
#2460
On August 15 2015 04:13 HyralGambit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2015 00:36 Garmer wrote:
protoss and zerg rely heavily on ability like swarm and stasis, terran not so much on mine, you can win without it at least against zerg if they do not use swarm, and maybe against toss too with mass supply for blocking and liath tank

Don't forget the oh so crucial storm in PvZ, a big equalizer in the match-up, if not more than Dark Swarm in ZvT.

Their skill isnt gone,for someone that plays sc2 games whole day then play a bw game the game feels terrible different,u need like 15 10 games to adapt again,im pretty sure Jaedong backs to bw and in 2 3 months will have effort skill minimum.
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