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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On July 21 2015 08:22 traceurling wrote: Trying to get back into Brood War, any pointers as to tourneys to do, BOs and and matchup guides? Zerg and Terran almost everything, tournaments no idea - guess you should ask prech. | ||
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LetaBot
Netherlands557 Posts
On July 21 2015 08:22 traceurling wrote: Trying to get back into Brood War, any pointers as to tourneys to do, BOs and and matchup guides? The BWAPI mini tournament #2 might be for you. The bots in the tournament are still around D+, so even a BW player coming back from a hiatus stands a chance. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Holy fuck do I miss this game. The music, the micro, the macro, the difficulty, the early game cheeses, the late game wars. Holy fuck do I love and miss all of it...... | ||
pheer
5398 Posts
I play 1-2 times a week | ||
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Gamlet
Ukraine336 Posts
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 21 2015 08:22 traceurling wrote: Trying to get back into Brood War, any pointers as to tourneys to do, BOs and and matchup guides? you should signing up for TLC for fun. It'll give you some competition which will drive you to improve. There's also the BWAPI that was recommended and you can playing the fake PL that Qikz is running (not sure if there's a pause atm though, pm him. As for BOs and matchup guides, for Zerg? I usually just check LP and watch vods or fpv to see what they do. On July 23 2015 02:31 sung_moon wrote: I just started playing again, since a buddy of mine returned from service and suggested we play this while he's living civilian life. Holy fuck do I miss this game. The music, the micro, the macro, the difficulty, the early game cheeses, the late game wars. Holy fuck do I love and miss all of it...... Great to have you back onboard again  | ||
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
www.afreeca.tv/EverTelecom | ||
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mca64Launcher_
Poland629 Posts
On July 25 2015 14:10 GGzerG wrote: streaming bw @ afreeca.tv for anyone interested , practice for TLS www.afreeca.tv/EverTelecom sorry, what the point to stream for foreigners and produce lag for them? :D or maybe you wanna get ban from tls?; | ||
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BingbingBOPOMOFO
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Thanks. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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moktira
Ireland1546 Posts
On July 25 2015 22:53 BingbingBOPOMOFO wrote: Who was or currently in charge of operating the Teamliquid archive for Brood War videos on YouTube? It has come to my attention that a section of videos were put into private mode so not to get deleted by copyright. I have an inquiry and I would like to get into contact with the person in charge if possible. Thanks. You can pm me or prech. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 26 2015 02:08 FFW_Rude wrote: Is there a problem with the "Classic BW " stream that is usally under "Organizations" ? I don't see it today. I thought it was 24/7 it's there right now, maybe medry had a power outage or something. | ||
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MrSantiago
United States6 Posts
I feel like if I ask this question here, a lot of people would answer "no," and would probably argue that these features would hurt the game. If you feel this way, I would like to understand why. Why would the inclusion of these features make Brood War less fun? | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
On July 26 2015 16:39 MrSantiago wrote: "Would Brood War be improved (from a gameplay perspective) if it had quality-of-life features such as unlimited unit selection, multiple building selection, and autocast?" I feel like if I ask this question here, a lot of people would answer "no," and would probably argue that these features would hurt the game. If you feel this way, I would like to understand why. Why would the inclusion of these features make Brood War less fun? Because they would significantly lower the skill ceiling and cause imbalances. Unlimited Unit Selection: Instead of 11 Mutalisks being controlled by a good player you would suddenly encounter 20+. It's easier for Zerg, but not for Terran. Hence, imbalance. MBS: Zerg can select up to twelve Larvae, thus making re-inforcing easier, yet controlling the re-inforcements harder, a good compromise. However, one click to re-inforce everything slightly faster and another to suddenly control it nearly perfectly. Well, you see where this is going. Auto-Cast: It is in BW for medics. Everything else is hard - imagine tons of perfect Dark Swarms and Psi Storm. The fun comes from being able to cast that on your own, not from having your units manually do it for you. ... 8[ | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
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MrSantiago
United States6 Posts
Unlimited Unit Selection: Instead of 11 Mutalisks being controlled by a good player you would suddenly encounter 20+. It's easier for Zerg, but not for Terran. Hence, imbalance. That is a very good point and a great reason for the game to keep 12 unit selection MBS: Zerg can select up to twelve Larvae, thus making re-inforcing easier, yet controlling the re-inforcements harder, a good compromise. However, one click to re-inforce everything slightly faster and another to suddenly control it nearly perfectly. Well, you see where this is going. It seems to me that the same could be said for Terran and Protoss reinforcements, so balance should still be kept in this example. Auto-Cast: It is in BW for medics. Everything else is hard - imagine tons of perfect Dark Swarms and Psi Storm. The fun comes from being able to cast that on your own, not from having your units manually do it for you. That was my mistake. I meant to say smart cast, not autocast. This way, the player must still cast the spell themself. Would you say that the interface in BW is something that you just have to get used to, but eventually you come to appreciate it? That is to say, for a new player to the series, if they play 20 hours of both games, they will probably prefer SC2, but if they play 200 hours of both games, they will probably prefer BW? | ||
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GeckoXp
Germany2016 Posts
Smart Cast is another questionable idea, it slightly favours Terran and Protoss imo - suddenly SK-Terran would become way more powerful than it is now. You could easily irradiate a ton of Defilers, whereas Defilers do not gain much. Hard to say for me. And yes, the interface is something that grows on you, same as Scarab/Goon/Goliath bugs. You develope a love/hate thing for it over time. It's sad that most new players simply expect these features and don't test the existing things. Probably besides the simple graphics (overview wise) the main reason BW is still appealing to many of us. Never understood why these jump'n'run games are successful, whereas BW struggles. Might be elitists being so hard ass about the questions, then again after the same question in variation 100 your temper gets the better of you. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On July 26 2015 18:00 MrSantiago wrote: Would you say that the interface in BW is something that you just have to get used to, but eventually you come to appreciate it? That is to say, for a new player to the series, if they play 20 hours of both games, they will probably prefer SC2, but if they play 200 hours of both games, they will probably prefer BW? New players who are primarily exposed to modern games will prefer sc2 not just because of interface but other reasons (graphics, accessibility , larger community etc.) Some may actually appreciate and sort of understand what BW is about (and not just lump all BW players as elitist) since the essence of gameplay goes far beyond interface/QoL controls. On July 26 2015 18:08 GeckoXp wrote: Might be elitists being so hard ass about the questions, then again after the same question in variation 100 your temper gets the better of you. you must wonder why they like to pose the same questions 100 times then. really? thanks to those debates in the past most in the sc2 community already label BW players/community as elitist in their hearts long ago, so i don't really care about that labelling. when sc3 comes out (maybe) with even more interface QoL "features" and other balance/graphic whatnot, now sc2 players will be the one suffering the same kind of questions and being labelled elitists for their staunch defending of the game they love as kids/adults. Meanwhile I will just be sitting in my rocking chair enjoying old BW vods... | ||
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