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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 23 2012 02:13 GMT
#61
Nooooo. So sad
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
July 23 2012 02:15 GMT
#62
Noooooooooooooooo Ace!!! Now who will I cheer for in PL??

Well actually I'll just cheer for Jaedong. But this is still a sad day for Korea's proscene. The eternal underdogs will no longer exist.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
July 23 2012 02:15 GMT
#63
*Salutes*
Byzantium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States423 Posts
July 23 2012 02:15 GMT
#64
Partially because of all the past greats on the team at any given time and partially just because they were always such an underdog, it was always a joy to watch ACE win a match (or sometimes just not get all-killed...). Sad news.
MSL 2052
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:16:04
July 23 2012 02:15 GMT
#65
Big shame they're not transitioning T_T
I love how they got started, its just... so inspiring.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:17:41
July 23 2012 02:17 GMT
#66
On July 23 2012 11:11 JunkkaGom wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Let me explain the matter with smartphones and SNS. There has been numerous articles about this recently in Korea.

Back in 90's and 2000's the trend was to enjoy gaming together. Together I mean as going to PC bang and play with friends side by side. My generation is the generation that went to arcade and played console together with friends.

The trend now is much more individual. Now every person has their own PC and smartphones. Because of internet and various appliances, one can be connected with others without actually physically being together.

The trend is also clear in PCbangs, which originally started out as a place to play game 'together' with others. In my days we went to Pcbang after school and played team game of BW or Counter Strike, etc. Now the game is more diverse. You see more and more people who come alone and play game of their own taste. Because of better technology more people play game at their home. It is no longer a neccesity to play and enjoy same game as others as you can still be part of the 'gang' and feel you belong somewhere through SNS and smartphone. Gaming is no longer considered group activity but rather an individual hobby.

Will people still go to PC bang and play games with friends? Sure, but they can also stay home and meet them on internet. Will people still go to gaming event to watch pro gamers play? Sure, but they can also stay home and watch on internet, while chatting with friends. Enjoying game as being part of physical group is no longer the big thing.

This is the reason why people(or so these articles claim) that while eSports will definitely grow it will be difficult to see a single game dominating entire population and creating the phenomenon BW did. The scene needs to evolve to meet the demand of viewers that are becoming more and more diverse. One can no longer make huge investment in single game and expect great success as easily as before.

Awesome insight, I kinda figured with better technology less ppl will go to PC bangs but other stuff is really cool.
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
July 23 2012 02:19 GMT
#67
On July 23 2012 10:48 Clefairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 10:46 Sadistx wrote:
Noooooooooo

We'll forever remember you ace. Every single player. You were the amazing underdogs. The old guard.

Also,
However the rise of smartphones and social network services has caused progaming to decline.
.

What the fuck? Smartphones caused progaming to decline?

According to game "journalists" the Apple utopia will kill consoles, handhelds and PC gaming.

That's some hilarious nonsense
GeneralSnoop
Profile Joined February 2011
United States142 Posts
July 23 2012 02:19 GMT
#68
On July 23 2012 10:51 GTR wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on 'smartphones and SNS services causing the decline of progaming'?


I think it has a lot to do with gaming on smartphones and tablets taking away much of the market of casual gamers on PC and console. Even in my own personal experience, I know a lot of guys and even girls who aren't huge into video games that have played quite a bit of Mario 64 or Goldeneye and things like that, but now have not touched an XBox or a gaming PC in favor of games made for phones/tablets. So instead of hearing about, trying out, and possibly getting into SC2 like many casuals did with BW, the general non-gaming masses have Angry Birds and the like to get their nerd fix with their friends and have no desire to pick up a more complicated gaming platform nor do they pay any attention to the big console and PC releases.
"I could probably live in trees" - LiquidJinro
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:21:13
July 23 2012 02:20 GMT
#69
On July 23 2012 10:46 Sadistx wrote:
Noooooooooo

We'll forever remember you ace. Every single player. You were the amazing underdogs. The old guard.

Also,
Show nested quote +
However the rise of smartphones and social network services has caused progaming to decline.
.

What the fuck? Smartphones caused progaming to decline?



Sure why not. I know tons of people who use those devices and they technically live in their own little worlds.

On July 23 2012 11:19 GeneralSnoop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 10:51 GTR wrote:
Can anyone elaborate on 'smartphones and SNS services causing the decline of progaming'?


I think it has a lot to do with gaming on smartphones and tablets taking away much of the market of casual gamers on PC and console. Even in my own personal experience, I know a lot of guys and even girls who aren't huge into video games that have played quite a bit of Mario 64 or Goldeneye and things like that, but now have not touched an XBox or a gaming PC in favor of games made for phones/tablets. So instead of hearing about, trying out, and possibly getting into SC2 like many casuals did with BW, the general non-gaming masses have Angry Birds and the like to get their nerd fix with their friends and have no desire to pick up a more complicated gaming platform nor do they pay any attention to the big console and PC releases.


Spot on in any case it's only one variable. When you tie all the strings together, GG.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
July 23 2012 02:20 GMT
#70
No matter how hard I was braced for it, it still hurts. I'm not terribly surprised, but 2 of the 3 years I've spent here on TL was with the ACE logo. <3
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Rob-ThePhantom
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia9 Posts
July 23 2012 02:21 GMT
#71
On July 23 2012 11:17 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 11:11 JunkkaGom wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Let me explain the matter with smartphones and SNS. There has been numerous articles about this recently in Korea.

Back in 90's and 2000's the trend was to enjoy gaming together. Together I mean as going to PC bang and play with friends side by side. My generation is the generation that went to arcade and played console together with friends.

The trend now is much more individual. Now every person has their own PC and smartphones. Because of internet and various appliances, one can be connected with others without actually physically being together.

The trend is also clear in PCbangs, which originally started out as a place to play game 'together' with others. In my days we went to Pcbang after school and played team game of BW or Counter Strike, etc. Now the game is more diverse. You see more and more people who come alone and play game of their own taste. Because of better technology more people play game at their home. It is no longer a neccesity to play and enjoy same game as others as you can still be part of the 'gang' and feel you belong somewhere through SNS and smartphone. Gaming is no longer considered group activity but rather an individual hobby.

Will people still go to PC bang and play games with friends? Sure, but they can also stay home and meet them on internet. Will people still go to gaming event to watch pro gamers play? Sure, but they can also stay home and watch on internet, while chatting with friends. Enjoying game as being part of physical group is no longer the big thing.

This is the reason why people(or so these articles claim) that while eSports will definitely grow it will be difficult to see a single game dominating entire population and creating the phenomenon BW did. The scene needs to evolve to meet the demand of viewers that are becoming more and more diverse. One can no longer make huge investment in single game and expect great success as easily as before.

Awesome insight, I kinda figured with better technology less ppl will go to PC bangs but other stuff is really cool.


I think it's understated how much of an effect the GSL teams are having on this. As KESPA transitions to SC2 the competition for each of the KESPA teams (with regards to exposure/sponsors) effectively doubles. It would be odd for some of the teams not to fold. The scene can't support all of these teams on only one game. (In my noob opinion)
Give me your ladder points!
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
July 23 2012 02:22 GMT
#72
Please go to a foreign team FBH. Please!!!!!!!
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Fischbacher
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:23:41
July 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#73
Really sad to see Ace go. Really bad omen for SC2 and esports in general :/
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#74
nooooooo
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 23 2012 02:24 GMT
#75
wow so sad..
beep boop
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-23 02:31:02
July 23 2012 02:26 GMT
#76
On July 23 2012 11:11 JunkkaGom wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Let me explain the matter with smartphones and SNS. There has been numerous articles about this recently in Korea.

Back in 90's and 2000's the trend was to enjoy gaming together. Together I mean as going to PC bang and play with friends side by side. My generation is the generation that went to arcade and played console together with friends.

The trend now is much more individual. Now every person has their own PC and smartphones. Because of internet and various appliances, one can be connected with others without actually physically being together.

The trend is also clear in PCbangs, which originally started out as a place to play game 'together' with others. In my days we went to Pcbang after school and played team game of BW or Counter Strike, etc. Now the game is more diverse. You see more and more people who come alone and play game of their own taste. Because of better technology more people play game at their home. It is no longer a neccesity to play and enjoy same game as others as you can still be part of the 'gang' and feel you belong somewhere through SNS and smartphone. Gaming is no longer considered group activity but rather an individual hobby.

Will people still go to PC bang and play games with friends? Sure, but they can also stay home and meet them on internet. Will people still go to gaming event to watch pro gamers play? Sure, but they can also stay home and watch on internet, while chatting with friends. Enjoying game as being part of physical group is no longer the big thing.

This is the reason why people(or so these articles claim) that while eSports will definitely grow it will be difficult to see a single game dominating entire population and creating the phenomenon BW did. The scene needs to evolve to meet the demand of viewers that are becoming more and more diverse. One can no longer make huge investment in single game and expect great success as easily as before.


That's all fair enough, but I don't see it as a terribly sound reason to disband the team. You could argue it may make a team slightly less close to each other... but... that doesn't seem to be much of an issue. Look at LoL; that's a team-only game, and that's on an incredible rise in Korea.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
July 23 2012 02:28 GMT
#77
I think this is the moment where I realize I might retire from the esports community. Just an addiction at this point. I'm so sad right now I'll make a blog later when I have the right words.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 23 2012 02:28 GMT
#78
Damn. during that period where I actually followed Proleague, ACE was always my favourite team. Even when Oversky was the only one getting any wins.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
July 23 2012 02:28 GMT
#79
I who am i going to root for now. Gahh i might wind up as an skt fan ;_;
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 23 2012 02:28 GMT
#80
was just about to go to sleep after a happy ladder run...

hop on TL and read this...

*cries himself to sleep*

nooooo ACE. i was hoping july would join when he goes to military... ugh dammit. the post by the guy from GOM makes sense though... gaming is becoming so individual, what happened to the fun of large, mass gaming with your friends in person? Nothing beats that man... nothing.
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