Air Force Ace to disband - Page 26

On July 24 2012 21:10 hifriend wrote:
Always been kind of a pointless team to be honest.

On July 24 2012 16:01 Ribbon wrote:


That's largely the BW's community's fault, though. Absolutely no effort was made to try to convert any of the "Oh hey SC2 is cool" people to BW fans, besides people on forums calling them names. Where was KeSPA's big outreach? The only major BW scene to ever even try to reach westerners was GOM back when Tasteless and I think SuperDanielMan were casting the GOMTV Classic in English. And KeSPA shut that one down pretty fast. Which, actually, was a pretty terrible decision in the long run. If GOM hadn't gotten into SC2, there'd be no SC2 now.

I seriously do believe that if GOMTV was in the BW business and not the SC2 business, we'd be in a new Golden Age of Brood War right now. SC2 isn't big because of Blizzard, much as people like to blame them. It's big because GOM sold it to a foreign audience.

Even right now, when the whole idea of the switch to SC2 is the international fans, there's still no official English stream for Proleague. That's insane. Even when their in SC2, KeSPA ignores the SC2 scene. They have completely and 100% fucked BW up. They're fucking up in SC2 now as well. Whatever they did for Brood War in the past, the last few years have been nothing but abject incompetence on their part.



This admittedly is a pretty huge problem. I'd say port forwarding is a bigger deal than killing explorer in task manager. A lot of people (myself included) literally can't do that.



Certainly not if you keep referring to the only potential source of new BW fans in such a demeaning get off my lawnish way.

On July 24 2012 23:22 floor exercise wrote:

Except for the opportunity to allow players to continue playing through their military service instead of it being a death knell for a player's career.

A lot of great players with huge fanbases went through the Airforce team, many of them would have just disappeared and along with them their fans if it weren't for that team

On July 24 2012 20:01 .vid wrote:

you forgot last year's mbc game, hwaseung oz and wemade collapses (edit: or was it in 2010? i forgot :S)

On July 25 2012 02:35 brolaf wrote:
Cant agree with this. Youre trying to put the cart before the horse. What comes first is a popular game by the designers, and blizzard did good here, SC2 is popular. As a result, a lot of potential viewers could supply a pro scene with earnings, so a big proscene is possible. BW is very unpopular outside korea/china, so there are few viewers and a pro scene isnt possible.

On July 25 2012 03:58 Ribbon wrote:


I considered adding them, but that was before the hybrid league was announced. MBCGame, Oz, and WeMade were the collapse of the BW scene (Wemade was technically an SC2 team as well, but had literally 3 players). Switching to SC2 was supposed to fix everything somehow, but oGs, Zenex, and Ace are primarily SC2 teams that are collapsing. The switch did nothing to save Proleague, and will quite possibly kill the GSL as well by flooding the market, and being a really hyped SC2 league full of generally bad SC2 games.

I'd say TSL (constantly on the verge of collapse, though they seem to be in better shape now), SlayerS (all kinds of shit going down in that team), and SKT1 (sponsor doesn't care about international audience) are the ones that should be on the watchlist. Woongjin and STX are also sponsors likely to pull out, but I honestly don't know why a chemical company and a shipbuilding company (!) were sponsoring BW in the first place. I doubt many BW fans are in the market for a ship. So maybe those two are just run by people who really like BW, meaning they should possibly be on the watchlist as well?



http://imgur.com/OGgDL

On July 25 2012 04:05 N.geNuity wrote:
woongjin wasn't a chemical company? last time I checked their website it said it started as educational/publication company, and now says its transitioning to a holdings company.

actually here is there financial stuff: http://www.woongjin.com/English/investment/mn_result.aspx

On July 25 2012 04:49 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Does not bode well for either Starcraft scene. Passion is dead.

I would like to think the formation of ACE legitimized BW as the esport that could transcend even something as strict as military service.

Smartphone Proleague 2014?