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Horrid Standard Maps - which ones to choose? - Page 3
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:49 brolaf wrote: No one has mentioned Lost Temple? Waaaah :O Balanced and fun map. And not quite as "clinical" as a lot of the newer 4p maps (cough fighting spirit, jade, ground zero, cough) Python have been mentioned  | ||
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On July 14 2012 02:36 FlaShFTW wrote: what? tau and HBR are great maps. Tau is the best snow map ever invented yo. HBR was also an amazing map. I think Python is the only stupid map that became popular. I feel claustrophobic playing on HBR. The new HBR made the map slightly better, but still the map favors tons and tons of static defense, which makes the map horrid for Protoss, unless they go for some early game aggression - which brings me to my next qualm with HBR: it's so bad in the late game, that it's become a notorious cheese map. Tau Cross kind of suffers from the same anti-Protoss syndrome, but for different reasons than HBR. Taking a third base against Terran or Zerg can be quite difficult because that base is wide-open for harassment. Plus, the cliffs make PvT even worse, because the wide area in the base sets up the Protoss for multiple drops that are just devastating. My diagnosis is that the Protoss can never feel safe about any of their bases at any time. Therefore, the only option is to go 10/15 gate and bust down the Terran, or bulldog them to death. PvZ is just as bad, if not worse. The third base area is actually pretty easy for Zerg to defend, whereas it requires a massive number of cannons from the Protoss player to be safe. The drop distance and paths are usually very easy for the Zerg to exploit as well. Doesn't even get me started on ZvT on Tau Cross. If I start thinking about it, I'll have nightmares. | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:49 brolaf wrote: No one has mentioned Lost Temple? Waaaah :O Balanced and fun map. And not quite as "clinical" as a lot of the newer 4p maps (cough fighting spirit, jade, ground zero, cough) "balanced"? when you can siege other people's mains from some of your main in certain positions? @_@ | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
On July 13 2012 22:36 miscelaneous wrote: Azalea may be the map with the reverse-Swastika. Nah that swastika isn't reverse. If the top arm makes an "F" then its a swastika. If the bottom arm makes an "L" then it's backwards. | ||
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brolaf
291 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:09 ]343[ wrote: "balanced"? when you can siege other people's mains from some of your main in certain positions? @_@ they fixed that  | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On July 14 2012 03:49 brolaf wrote: No one has mentioned Lost Temple? Waaaah :O Balanced and fun map. And not quite as "clinical" as a lot of the newer 4p maps (cough fighting spirit, jade, ground zero, cough) Not really balanced, it's a terran playground. Fighting spirit is one of my favorite maps though. | ||
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brolaf
291 Posts
On July 14 2012 04:23 Nemesis wrote: Not really balanced, it's a terran playground. Fighting spirit is one of my favorite maps though. Terrans got mauled by P when LT2 was on proscene. and TvZ 57% winrate is pretty much the norm on most maps so that isnt anything weirdly imbalanced. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
On July 14 2012 01:28 3FFA wrote: See if you like any maps on broodwarmaps.net , lots of cool maps there by foreigners (to S.Korea) that can be amazingly close to the level of balance some korean maps have. And Blood Bath. Oh wait... And on that note, I can suggest some relatively recently made maps from bwm: ![[image loading]](http://www.panschk.de/mappage/pics/4369.jpg) Gemlong by JungleTerrain http://www.panschk.de/mappage/maps/(4)Gemlong1.0(n).scx ![[image loading]](http://www.panschk.de/mappage/amonti10.jpg) Amontillado by JungleTerrain http://www.panschk.de/mappage/(4)Amontillado(n).scx If you want something less standard: ![[image loading]](http://www.panschk.de/mappage/pics/4240.jpg) Lucid Dream by Freakling http://www.panschk.de/mappage/maps/(4)Lucid Dream(n).scx ![[image loading]](http://www.panschk.de/mappage/pics/4237.jpg) Melting Pot, a collaborative effort by several mappers at bwm http://www.panschk.de/mappage/maps/(4)Melting Pot(n).scx The minerals in center are hallucinated: they vanish from the game pretty quickly. | ||
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Skeggaba
Korea (South)1556 Posts
Have a half written guide on that map laying around somewhere, maybe time to publish it now ^^ | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
Geez guys I don't believe it. 1 BW is active, but even greater 2 THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE WHO EXPRESS A SENTIMENT OF BEING SICK OF THE SAME STANDARD MAPS! You can't appreciate how huge a shock this reality is until you spend a night on iCCup (or Fish I guess) trying, OH SURE TRYING, to break the monotonous monopoly on fun that FS (that's it really) and Pyt. No, the list isin't even 3 members long, because 3 maps must be WAY too much for people to manage, or fit in their brains, or being remotely interested in. "Ugh, I have to learn a new map?" No, it's a priviledge, you GET to play on a different map! If (perish the thought) someone would dare stand up to the challenge of defeating that monstrous market share, saturation and control of Fighting Spirit, how would they do it? A lone crusader like me fails when I can't host. We need Celebrity Endorsement! Gem league was so much more fun than it could have been if the'd stuck to your typical ladder maps. These wonky community events (which, by the way, is the only way foreign BW will stay active, fun, and alive) are much more humorous and entertaining when it's not just the players and strategies, but the maps as well, that diverge from the norm. Get playing old maps guys! The tragedy is that maps I detested and was sick of (from over-use) back when I started ladder in 2008 (BS, Katrina, Tau, Andro, Athena, Desti even) I am now starting to love, cause I really fucking miss them! I yearn and groan for them each time I have to settle for Python, least alone FS. Chup Gaia HBR (!) Othello Grand Line LT MP (!) Medusa (list goes on and on) are the sort of maps you'd always expect to see around, and they're good enough that they deserve to be seen, but they're certainly not from my seat (maybe I'm doing it wrong, I hope so)! Fuck those people who only HOST FS or Pyt, seriously, that's how frustrated I am with them. Monotony sucks, I want something interesting! Yes yes my win-ratio is far more dependent on how much I focus on SCV production and macro, and not really affected by the map, but still, I want it to at least FEEL like I'm not just playing the exact same TvP as the last 20 games. Geez | ||
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brolaf
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EMPaThy789
New Zealand878 Posts
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Puyi
United States175 Posts
On July 14 2012 06:35 bITt.mAN wrote: I was thinking Azalea as well q: Geez guys I don't believe it. 1 BW is active, but even greater 2 THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE UNIVERSE WHO EXPRESS A SENTIMENT OF BEING SICK OF THE SAME STANDARD MAPS! You can't appreciate how huge a shock this reality is until you spend a night on iCCup (or Fish I guess) trying, OH SURE TRYING, to break the monotonous monopoly on fun that FS (that's it really) and Pyt. No, the list isin't even 3 members long, because 3 maps must be WAY too much for people to manage, or fit in their brains, or being remotely interested in. "Ugh, I have to learn a new map?" No, it's a priviledge, you GET to play on a different map! If (perish the thought) someone would dare stand up to the challenge of defeating that monstrous market share, saturation and control of Fighting Spirit, how would they do it? A lone crusader like me fails when I can't host. We need Celebrity Endorsement! Gem league was so much more fun than it could have been if the'd stuck to your typical ladder maps. These wonky community events (which, by the way, is the only way foreign BW will stay active, fun, and alive) are much more humorous and entertaining when it's not just the players and strategies, but the maps as well, that diverge from the norm. Get playing old maps guys! The tragedy is that maps I detested and was sick of (from over-use) back when I started ladder in 2008 (BS, Katrina, Tau, Andro, Athena, Desti even) I am now starting to love, cause I really fucking miss them! I yearn and groan for them each time I have to settle for Python, least alone FS. Chup Gaia HBR (!) Othello Grand Line LT MP (!) Medusa (list goes on and on) are the sort of maps you'd always expect to see around, and they're good enough that they deserve to be seen, but they're certainly not from my seat (maybe I'm doing it wrong, I hope so)! Fuck those people who only HOST FS or Pyt, seriously, that's how frustrated I am with them. Monotony sucks, I want something interesting! Yes yes my win-ratio is far more dependent on how much I focus on SCV production and macro, and not really affected by the map, but still, I want it to at least FEEL like I'm not just playing the exact same TvP as the last 20 games. Geez just host motw maps. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
Here's a one-line reply pointing you towards the blatant flaw in your suggestion - regardless, obscure and old maps are out of the question, the problem is that people don't venture out of their comfort zone EVEN FOR MOTW, and then they do stupid stuff like making Pyt and FS motw, which defeats the purpose... | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
But that was when iCCup had 1000+ active users on... nowadays we have like 400  | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
1) Andromeda 2) Fighting Spirit 3) Outsider IDK if these were part of your pack, but you should definitely check them out. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
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sc2CruSha
United States105 Posts
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MusicalPulse
United States162 Posts
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