anyone else interested in how kespa didn't use any GSL maps? also everything they used here is on the ladder so that the pros can get some good practice in, but GSL maps are on the ladder and they seem pointedly avoided. I guess we can look forward to those kespa map makers starting to get to work on making some sc2 maps.

also shout out to a small map pool. i'll be watching to see if i get bored with the small map pool. this season stuff might be boring just because of the maps but then maybe we'll see some very map specific strategies.

INTOtheVOID

United States225 Posts

May 15 2012 06:55 GMT

#62

Man, proleague with both games is a horrible idea in my opinion...I can't believe that they are actually intending to do this. Either keep it pure BW or switch completely to SC2, having a mix only hurts the players and will make for less entertaining games.

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

May 15 2012 06:59 GMT

#63

On May 15 2012 15:50 bgx wrote:

Show nested quote +

And his opponent will retire from progaming.

Teamliquid will burn to the ground as Jaedong ragequits from progaming after a humiliating defeat against Bisu.

Viva la revolution.

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

May 15 2012 07:04 GMT

#64

EDIT oh fuck i just realized this was the completely wrong thread.

NeWeNiyaLord

Norway2474 Posts

May 15 2012 07:18 GMT

#65

New Sniper Ridge 2.0 looks like the Nazi logo =o

Clafou

Belgium921 Posts

May 15 2012 07:26 GMT

#66

Antiga Shipyard, Entombed Valley, Ohana and Cloud Kingdom remain unchanged from their ladder editions (which means no lowered supply ramp blocks, no forced cross spawns and gold bases on Antiga).

Seriously?

Brace yourselves, pylons blocks and bunker rushes are coming.

SeinGalton

South Africa387 Posts

May 15 2012 07:38 GMT

#67

When I saw "Proleague Map Updates" I automatically assumed they had swapped out the SC2 map pool (which is terrible for Zergs). But the kept it exactly the same, and to emphasize the unchangedness and sameness of the SC2 maps, they decided to change the BW map.

I guess the silver lining is that BW pros don't need to start out with the likes of Jungle Basin and Steps of War. Still.

haitike

Spain2726 Posts

May 15 2012 07:48 GMT

#68

I think that when they got some experiencie, probably they will begin use some own sc2 maps mixed with international maps. It would be interesting to see some of the kespa mapmakers with the sc2 editor.

Clafou

Belgium921 Posts

May 15 2012 07:50 GMT

#69

Yep but still... if they don't change anything on these sc2 maps, it will be a pain to watch (and I'm a SC2 fan).

slytown

Korea (South)1411 Posts

May 15 2012 08:11 GMT

#70

Why did they remove the cliff on neo geo?!

j1nzo

Germany367 Posts

May 15 2012 08:25 GMT

#71

i can't wait any longer!

Aunvilgod

2653 Posts

May 15 2012 08:43 GMT

#72

The maps for SCII are not as bad as some might think. Antiga is the only map that sucks. Entombed, although being turtley makes awesome games.

haitike

Spain2726 Posts

May 15 2012 09:04 GMT

#73

On May 15 2012 16:18 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
New Sniper Ridge 2.0 looks like the Nazi logo =o

No, it is inverted, they are different symbols:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauwastika
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

ne4aJIb

Russian Federation3209 Posts

May 15 2012 09:08 GMT

#74

Really interesting changes in Ground Zero. Jade i think become less friendly for T in TvP with reduced gas on third.

Clafou

Belgium921 Posts

May 15 2012 09:16 GMT

#75

On May 15 2012 17:43 Aunvilgod wrote:
The maps for SCII are not as bad as some might think. Antiga is the only map that sucks. Entombed, although being turtley makes awesome games.

The maps aren't bad in GSL/MLG versions. The ladder versions of these maps suck a lot because of this :

which means no lowered supply ramp blocks, no forced cross spawns and gold bases on Antiga

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

May 15 2012 09:21 GMT

#76

What if they played the BW games on the SC2 maps and the SC2 games on the BW maps?

/philoso-Stork

Norada

China482 Posts

May 15 2012 09:32 GMT

#77

In an interview they said the teams didnt have much practice time and only played on ladder. Which is why they're going with the ladder maps for the proleague. Will be funny seeing a bad game on even badder maps :>

one-one-one

Sweden551 Posts

May 15 2012 09:55 GMT

#78

I understand that they don't want to use GSL map versions, but since they have an agreement with MLG they could use their maps.

The only issue I have is that some spawn constellations are bad on Antiga and Entombed.

neutral depots at the ramps are nice, but I haven't seen a good zerg lose to that kind of abuse in a very long time on any of the streams I watch.

lugaidster

Chile30 Posts

May 15 2012 12:44 GMT

#79

Pylon/bunker blocks won't be that much of a problem on ramps now that the queens have 5 range. They can safely shoot from above the ramp and even kill the worker. It might be a slight annoyance but any player that tries it will also be behind because of it. 3 pylons/bunkers are the same as one hatchery and now they won't be as effective. Using them for cannons will require an additional pylon out of range making the total investment at least 550 minerals for protoss, plus defending your main base because of a possible ling run-by after breaking out.

People are bitching way before time. Besides, cheeses are quite common in sc2, I'm pretty sure we'll see some of them in varying forms.

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

May 15 2012 13:03 GMT

#80

I like what they did with the bw maps, but do they really have to use blizzard ladder editions maps, and anitiga with gold bases, ewwwww.