• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:59
CEST 13:59
KST 20:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy8uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event15Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again"
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September
Tourneys
Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI The year 2050 Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1385 users

Media Day: SK Planet Proleague Season 2 - Page 30

Forum Index > BW General
950 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 48 Next All
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2012 11:51 GMT
#581
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
May 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#582
I think the switching between the games might be a little hard on all the players. Hopefully they can all do well in both games
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#583
I love this but i can agree with the sentiment that having both is a bad idea. Go SC2 and be done with it. However i can see why they did it.. but yeah maybe it won't work as intended.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
May 10 2012 12:07 GMT
#584
Hope they have vods or I wont be able to watch a single game ever, 5am is pretty much the worst time possible.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 10 2012 12:10 GMT
#585
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.
Cackle™
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:13:23
May 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#586
I'm really interested in watching the SC2 side of this to see how exactly will a new, independent metagame develop and how that will impact the existing SC2 scene.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#587
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.


Yeah, like I said earlier. I'm expecting a lot of the games to be crap for both because of the split focus/training.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#588
By the way, this now is extraordinarily painful, because they learn SC2 for the first time - that's extremely time consuming.

However...

Once they get deeply skilled in SC2, it would become much easier actually to perform close to their highest skill in both games and prepare well for each match. Especially since the scheme still allows to plan this in advance.

That's why I still have solid hopes for the OSL to remain pure BW - and that's why they still say they are undecided about OSL and don't call their OGN individual league in SC2 "OSL something".
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:17:08
May 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#589
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
May 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#590
On May 10 2012 21:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.

Yeah, Korean SC is now dead, as far as I'm concerned. It's really destroyed, and I won't be going near it again. Pretty sad.
EleGant[AoV]
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
May 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#591
So the current players in sc2 will have no part of the sc2 part of pro league or what?
Hell, it's about time
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:23:19
May 10 2012 12:21 GMT
#592
On May 10 2012 21:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.

As were half of the proleague games the last season and players weren't practicing sc2 intensively or at all back than as far as I know.
Well see how its going to be like in the ro16.I'm not saying that the games will be a work of art but they may end up being better than everyone expected but at a high cost.
Cackle™
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#593
^

People were practicing. They were confirmed to have been practicing for some time actually.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#594
On May 10 2012 20:36 Darksoldierr wrote:
What MVP thinks about it, and i agree

Show nested quote +
As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.


A lot of people have been saying the same thing for some time now. -_-

It's honestly not good for entertainment value or competition. We'll be lucky to get 1-2 decent/good games a night with this format.

If I'm GOM or any other League. I'm laughing because KeSPA just deteriorated one thing they had going for them. This will be the one season to forget.

It's okay teams. Everyone WINS!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#595
On May 10 2012 21:20 Cinim wrote:
So the current players in sc2 will have no part of the sc2 part of pro league or what?


They aren't members of the Association, so no not yet.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
May 10 2012 12:30 GMT
#596
Dam it why is the ace match SC2? FML
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
May 10 2012 12:35 GMT
#597
I'm interested to see the BW pros play SC2 on one hand but I really hope the quality of BW games doesn't drop as much T.T
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
May 10 2012 12:37 GMT
#598
This was what I was afraid for, this'll be really boring to watch.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:50:54
May 10 2012 12:43 GMT
#599
from IMMvp's Interview

As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.

edit: sorry already posted, didnt see it.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#600
On May 10 2012 21:43 dragonborn wrote:
from IMMvp's Interview

As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.

That was already posted in this thread
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Prev 1 28 29 30 31 32 48 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LiuLi Cup
11:00
#2
Harstem371
TKL 183
IndyStarCraft 173
CranKy Ducklings157
SteadfastSC87
Rex79
IntoTheiNu 45
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 371
mouzHeroMarine 225
TKL 183
IndyStarCraft 173
SteadfastSC 87
Rex 79
Lowko53
trigger 11
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 1774
ggaemo 628
Barracks 399
Hyuk 397
Larva 379
actioN 322
hero 283
ZerO 277
firebathero 223
Snow 222
[ Show more ]
Soma 211
EffOrt 190
TY 152
Leta 151
Rush 149
Mind 119
Hyun 116
Mong 115
ToSsGirL 100
Liquid`Ret 75
Sharp 48
soO 45
Movie 39
JYJ33
sSak 32
Shine 26
[sc1f]eonzerg 25
Free 22
Aegong 20
Icarus 17
scan(afreeca) 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 14
HiyA 10
ivOry 5
IntoTheRainbow 4
Dota 2
Gorgc2104
qojqva761
XaKoH 357
XcaliburYe263
ODPixel129
Counter-Strike
zeus552
markeloff11
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King34
Westballz30
Other Games
FrodaN2151
singsing2099
olofmeister1311
B2W.Neo1198
mouzStarbuck272
crisheroes180
Fuzer 166
Pyrionflax114
ArmadaUGS29
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 24
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 27
• davetesta9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV408
League of Legends
• Nemesis1460
• Jankos893
Upcoming Events
Online Event
3h 1m
BSL Team Wars
7h 1m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
23h 1m
SC Evo League
1d
Online Event
1d 1h
OSC
1d 1h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 3h
CSO Contender
1d 5h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 23h
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
2 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.