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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2012 11:51 GMT
#581
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Felvo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States124 Posts
May 10 2012 11:53 GMT
#582
I think the switching between the games might be a little hard on all the players. Hopefully they can all do well in both games
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 10 2012 12:04 GMT
#583
I love this but i can agree with the sentiment that having both is a bad idea. Go SC2 and be done with it. However i can see why they did it.. but yeah maybe it won't work as intended.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
May 10 2012 12:07 GMT
#584
Hope they have vods or I wont be able to watch a single game ever, 5am is pretty much the worst time possible.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 10 2012 12:10 GMT
#585
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.
Cackle™
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:13:23
May 10 2012 12:12 GMT
#586
I'm really interested in watching the SC2 side of this to see how exactly will a new, independent metagame develop and how that will impact the existing SC2 scene.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:14 GMT
#587
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.


Yeah, like I said earlier. I'm expecting a lot of the games to be crap for both because of the split focus/training.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#588
By the way, this now is extraordinarily painful, because they learn SC2 for the first time - that's extremely time consuming.

However...

Once they get deeply skilled in SC2, it would become much easier actually to perform close to their highest skill in both games and prepare well for each match. Especially since the scheme still allows to plan this in advance.

That's why I still have solid hopes for the OSL to remain pure BW - and that's why they still say they are undecided about OSL and don't call their OGN individual league in SC2 "OSL something".
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:17:08
May 10 2012 12:16 GMT
#589
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1692 Posts
May 10 2012 12:18 GMT
#590
On May 10 2012 21:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.

Yeah, Korean SC is now dead, as far as I'm concerned. It's really destroyed, and I won't be going near it again. Pretty sad.
EleGant[AoV]
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
May 10 2012 12:20 GMT
#591
So the current players in sc2 will have no part of the sc2 part of pro league or what?
Hell, it's about time
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:23:19
May 10 2012 12:21 GMT
#592
On May 10 2012 21:16 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 21:10 TheKefka wrote:
On May 10 2012 20:51 Zergneedsfood wrote:
And the thing is you realize that the BW games are going to be utter shit because no one's going to practice from them as much, knowing that the full switch to SC2 is coming anyway.

So in other words, we get to watch the final days of BW as the days when everyone stops even practicing the game.

That doesn't make any sense tho.There is a prize money for these things.You honestly think the finalists of the OSL are going to be like:" O well fuck this first place check" and not end up practicing at all?
No lol.If anything these people will practice more in the upcoming week than they have in their entire career and that is the real problem here.The greed of kespa and sponsors have thrown them into such a situation that they will be mentally on the edge...
I would not be surprised if we see decent or very good quality of the games but the players will suffer so much its going to be ridiculous.


Have you SEEN any of the OSL games?

Pure shit. I don't need to argue logistics or theories when the evidence is right there. The OSL games are terrible.

As were half of the proleague games the last season and players weren't practicing sc2 intensively or at all back than as far as I know.
Well see how its going to be like in the ro16.I'm not saying that the games will be a work of art but they may end up being better than everyone expected but at a high cost.
Cackle™
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
May 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#593
^

People were practicing. They were confirmed to have been practicing for some time actually.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:22 GMT
#594
On May 10 2012 20:36 Darksoldierr wrote:
What MVP thinks about it, and i agree

Show nested quote +
As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.


A lot of people have been saying the same thing for some time now. -_-

It's honestly not good for entertainment value or competition. We'll be lucky to get 1-2 decent/good games a night with this format.

If I'm GOM or any other League. I'm laughing because KeSPA just deteriorated one thing they had going for them. This will be the one season to forget.

It's okay teams. Everyone WINS!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2012 12:24 GMT
#595
On May 10 2012 21:20 Cinim wrote:
So the current players in sc2 will have no part of the sc2 part of pro league or what?


They aren't members of the Association, so no not yet.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4132 Posts
May 10 2012 12:30 GMT
#596
Dam it why is the ace match SC2? FML
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4132 Posts
May 10 2012 12:35 GMT
#597
I'm interested to see the BW pros play SC2 on one hand but I really hope the quality of BW games doesn't drop as much T.T
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
May 10 2012 12:37 GMT
#598
This was what I was afraid for, this'll be really boring to watch.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 12:50:54
May 10 2012 12:43 GMT
#599
from IMMvp's Interview

As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.

edit: sorry already posted, didnt see it.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 10 2012 12:47 GMT
#600
On May 10 2012 21:43 dragonborn wrote:
from IMMvp's Interview

As Kespa enters the Starcraft 2 scene, fans are already hyping up the match between you and Flash.

It will be fun to play against him. However, I’ve seen recent articles about Starcraft 1-Starcraft 2 running in parallel. Frankly, the two games running in parallel is too hard on progamers. I’ve played Starcraft 1 from time to time as a Starcraft 2 gamer and it feels way too different. I regret the fact that Starcraft 1 gamers have to play two games at once. I think the people who decided this were too selfish. They didn’t consider the players at all.

That was already posted in this thread
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