BW Head Coaches on SC2 - Page 35

On April 22 2012 01:36 okum wrote:
I don't understand the argument that we should wait 4-5 years, or that "we" can make SC2 better. The expansions will only provide minor enhancements. Maps can only do so much. There's no way Blizzard is going to fix the fundamental issues with the game. The best possible scenario is that fans eventually develop a mod that provides more differentiated races and fixes the clumping and lack of defender's advantage, but that's probably not going to happen soon, and even then, it's not likely that a mod would be used for tournaments. And even a mod probably wouldn't change the fact that the game looks like blue blur.

On April 22 2012 03:09 Aunvilgod wrote:


You are saying the races are less differencial? Ever heard of creep spread?

Fundamentally there is not that much of a difference. You don´t have to babysit your workers for mining and you don´t have to babysit your goons but you can spend your apm otherwise. For example for splitting units so they don´t clump... Please explain why the defenders advantage is bigger in BW.

On April 22 2012 03:59 Neurosis wrote:
I really hope Blizzard can get sc2 into a more balanced shape before these guys get good at the game. It's pretty clear that at the absolute highest level protoss is lacking. Both terran and toss have had their openers nerfed into oblivion but due to the extremely high micro potential of the terran race we still see top players find ways to win even when they probably shouldn't be. I feel the game was balanced around all of these openers that were ultimately nerfed and now we have toss players left with a weak race.

I also want to point out that it's very obvious that players have been playing wrong all this time. Players got caught up on the idea of cheese and allin (myself included) and decided that any one base opener was wrong and couldn't be transitioned out of. I think what needs to be done is a reset on most of the changes done to the game since launch minus some of the truly broken stuff such as siege tank damage and the extremely early cheeses like rax before depot and proxy 2 gate. Anyways I'm excited to see how the BW gods will do.

On April 22 2012 04:07 huehuehuehue wrote:

Do you even watch SC2? Toss weak? What??

On April 22 2012 03:59 Neurosis wrote:
I really hope Blizzard can get sc2 into a more balanced shape before these guys get good at the game. It's pretty clear that at the absolute highest level protoss is lacking. Both terran and toss have had their openers nerfed into oblivion but due to the extremely high micro potential of the terran race we still see top players find ways to win even when they probably shouldn't. I feel the game was balanced around all of these openers that were ultimately nerfed and now we have toss players left with a weak race.

I also want to point out that it's very obvious that players have been playing wrong all this time. Players got caught up on the idea of cheese and allin (myself included) and decided that any one base opener was wrong and couldn't be transitioned out of. I think what needs to be done is a reset on most of the changes done to the game since launch minus some of the truly broken stuff such as siege tank damage and the extremely early cheeses like rax before depot and proxy 2 gate. Anyways I'm excited to see how the BW gods will do.

On April 22 2012 04:09 Vita` wrote:



mind=blown

do you even watch sc2?

On April 22 2012 04:10 Neurosis wrote:


Yes, probably far more than most :D

On April 22 2012 04:22 Vita` wrote:


So either you're trolling or you just missed that there was almost 50% toss in ro16 in Code S, and both first places in ro16 groups have so far been to toss, i dont see that changing in the other last two groups either tbh (mkp vs parting is hard to predict though).

and we had a toss in last seasons finals, maybe you were afk during that time too.

On April 22 2012 04:25 Neurosis wrote:


Yes but they're only there because blizzard has artificially buffed the strats people have been trying. Also I don't see any of the protoss players winning this gsl.

On April 22 2012 04:27 Rainfall7711 wrote:


I'd like an example of said buffs and strats.

On April 22 2012 03:40 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:


I heard Flash was a little cheesey early in his career. It would be kinda hilarious if when some of the famously skillful BW players show up, instead of displaying godlike macro/micro, they instead invented some uber 1/1/1 or something that just shatters the metagame.

On April 22 2012 02:00 Clafou wrote:



This kind of comments have to stop, seriously... How can you think that Flash doesn't know the units in starcraft 2? And btw, Master League is like "terrible league" when you talk about progaming.

On April 22 2012 05:24 EienShinwa wrote:

For what it's worth.... I heard he got to Masters by playing with only one hand.. I doubt half of the people in the 2% Masters League can do that.