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On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game.
Goddamnit, I have followed SC2 since 2007. Don't say that we don't know anything about SC2. From you post, it sounds like you don't know anything about STARCRAFT.
Question: Do you know why the 3 time OSL winner and two time MSL winner Jaedong became popular? Hint: It's because of something he won't be able to replicate in SC2.
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On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game.
In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ?
Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities 
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On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities
Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL
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Stunted Growth of SC2, by Plexa
Bit relevant to the thread. I've made similar arguments about BW needing a major over-arcing storyline beyond "Flash beats everyone a lot" for a while, with Legend of the Fall being exactly what it needed. If KeSPA wants foreign SC2 fans to watch Proleague, they need to realize that most SC2 fans knowledge of BW is "Flash is good", some know about TLBS, and a few were really into it a few years ago and don't know the knew names. I'm really interested in how they intend to explain BW to the foreign SC2 scene. A lot hinges on that. If they fuck that up, not only will they not get foreign fans watching BW, they won't get foreign fans watching their SC2 either if TLBS underperforms.
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On April 22 2012 06:31 Ribbon wrote:Stunted Growth of SC2, by PlexaBit relevant to the thread. I've made similar arguments about BW needing a major over-arcing storyline beyond "Flash beats everyone a lot" for a while, with Legend of the Fall being exactly what it needed. If KeSPA wants foreign SC2 fans to watch Proleague, they need to realize that most SC2 fans knowledge of BW is "Flash is good", some know about TLBS, and a few were really into it a few years ago and don't know the knew names. I'm really interested in how they intend to explain BW to the foreign SC2 scene. A lot hinges on that. If they fuck that up, not only will they not get foreign fans watching BW, they won't get foreign fans watching their SC2 either if TLBS underperforms.
Not sure how KeSPA is supposed to create storylines, that is something that players do themselves. I don't really see the lack of storylines as a problem for BW anyway, seeing how BW contiously creates epic stories like the last OSL for example. BW isn't suffering from the "faceless Korean invasion" Plexa talked about.
And sure, the coaches talked a lot about reaching out to the foreign fans, but I’m pretty sure that the main idea behind the upcoming mixed PL-season is to introduce Korean BW fans to SC2 – not getting foreign SC2 fans to become BW fans. It is just too late for that.
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On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL
See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is.
And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is.
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On April 22 2012 06:45 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:31 Ribbon wrote:Stunted Growth of SC2, by PlexaBit relevant to the thread. I've made similar arguments about BW needing a major over-arcing storyline beyond "Flash beats everyone a lot" for a while, with Legend of the Fall being exactly what it needed. If KeSPA wants foreign SC2 fans to watch Proleague, they need to realize that most SC2 fans knowledge of BW is "Flash is good", some know about TLBS, and a few were really into it a few years ago and don't know the knew names. I'm really interested in how they intend to explain BW to the foreign SC2 scene. A lot hinges on that. If they fuck that up, not only will they not get foreign fans watching BW, they won't get foreign fans watching their SC2 either if TLBS underperforms. Not sure how KeSPA is supposed to create storylines, that is something that players do themselves. I don't really see the lack of storylines as a problem for BW anyway, seeing how BW contiously creates epic stories like the last OSL for example. BW isn't suffering from the "faceless Korean invasion" Plexa talked about. And sure, the coaches talked a lot about reaching out to the foreign fans, but I’m pretty sure that the main idea behind the upcoming mixed PL-season is to introduce Korean BW fans to SC2 – not getting foreign SC2 fans to become BW fans. It is just too late for that.
Ye i agree, they want the current viewership to accept the change. If they would have cared that much about the foreigner scene, they would have done something earlier, this really feels like "oh we gonna open for sc2, better make ourselves look better for them"
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On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is.
Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!”
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stop hating sc2. thank you.
Flash is playing protoss well it's kinda sad at least we have bisu now
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On April 22 2012 07:03 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is. Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!”
But theres a point what he says. The die hard BW fans wouldn't accept anything but BW with upgraded graphics. But these days you cannot sell a game like that. Blizz had to do something.
I agree, it didn't come out right, the result is lot worse than BW but its not a bad game at the end, just not good enough :\
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On April 22 2012 07:08 HQuality wrote:stop hating sc2. thank you. Flash is playing protoss well it's kinda sad at least we have bisu now
Go back to your sc2 forum, thank you.
PD: bisu sucks.
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On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game.
User was temp banned for this post.
why should he be banned? it's ridiculous how biased mods are. if we hate on bw, we get banned. if we hate on sc2...well it's encouraged rather...
User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 22 2012 07:20 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game.
User was temp banned for this post. why should he be banned? it's ridiculous how biased mods are. if we hate on bw, we get banned. if we hate on sc2...well it's encouraged rather...
What is hard to understand about this is the broodwar forums and BW vs sc2 has been discussed to death so don't post it here?
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On April 22 2012 07:09 Darksoldierr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 07:03 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is. Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!” But theres a point what he says. The die hard BW fans wouldn't accept anything but BW with upgraded graphics. But these days you cannot sell a game like that. Blizz had to do something. I agree, it didn't come out right, the result is lot worse than BW but its not a bad game at the end, just not good enough :\
This is getting very hypothetical but I think that people generally change games if they find the new one more interesting. I agree that a small minority always will be displeased with the sequel, you can’t make everyone happy. But I’m not really surprised that the new game design was a big turnoff for many BW players. This doesn’t mean that SC2 is bad or that it wasn’t a good decision to aim for casuals.
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On April 22 2012 07:20 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game.
User was temp banned for this post. why should he be banned? it's ridiculous how biased mods are. if we hate on bw, we get banned. if we hate on sc2...well it's encouraged rather...
For how long has BW been on this world now? 13 years or so? And SC2? 2 years? And yet you want equality. SC2 has yet to prove it's worth.
Well, what "luck" do I have today? Are my quotes cursed?
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On April 22 2012 07:03 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is. Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!”
NoNo ok what i mean is, people may have been hyped but it's pretty obvious the majority would have been disappointed no matter what game SC2 turned out to be. People obviously just wanted BW HD. People have complained about.... Bad ui, bath unit pathing, bad units, clumping, bad maps, bad balance, lack of multitasking, casual friendly, no skill required. There aren't actually any more things that could be complained about. There is literally 0 positive about SC2.
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On April 22 2012 07:34 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 07:03 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is. Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!” NoNo ok what i mean is, people may have been hyped but it's pretty obvious the majority would have been disappointed no matter what game SC2 turned out to be. People obviously just wanted BW HD. People have complained about.... Bad ui, bath unit pathing, bad units, clumping, bad maps, bad balance, lack of multitasking, casual friendly, no skill required. There aren't actually any more things that could be complained about. There is literally 0 positive about SC2.
The minerals looks nice.
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On April 22 2012 07:34 Rainfall7711 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 07:03 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:51 Rainfall7711 wrote:On April 22 2012 06:28 gn0m wrote:On April 22 2012 06:17 algue wrote:On April 22 2012 06:05 -Duderino- wrote:
At first I was amazed by all the hating on sc2 by bw elitists but I realize now its because none of you know anything about the game 90% of posts by yall bout sc2 are just wrong and ignorant. It would great for the starcraft 2 communtity for bw fans to switch over along with the pros but after reading a handful of posts I think it might be best for everyone if the haters go down with the ship.
Can't wait for some of the top bw pros to come over to sc2 and innovate the game. In the one hand you are right , there is imo way too much hate and SOME bw players should be a little bit more open minded but on the other hand you can't say that Sc2 is a better game than BW atm and you are on the BW forum , what did you expect ? Its sad too see some Sc2 and BW player doing the same shit as CS 1.6 and CS:S communities Whenever a sequel to a popular game is released, there is bound to be some disappointment for some of the fans of the original game. It is no secret that SC2, and new games in general, are being catered to casuals and the remaining foreign BW community is pretty hardcore by now. Hence the low interest for SC2 for some in the BW community. But saying that BW fans don’t like SC2 because they “didn’t gave it a chance” etc. is ridicules. BW fans were by far the most hyped when SC2 was announced. Also, this wouldn’t really be an issue if BW players weren’t forced to switch to a less developed game. I can imagine that SC2 fans would be pretty upset if every SC2 pro switched to LoL See i don't believe all of this about BW fans being hyped for SC2. It seems plausible on the surface but let's look at this logically. The only way BW fans would accept SC2 is if it was EXACTLY the śame but with better graphics. This was never going to happen. It doesn't matter how good SC2 is/will be because it will never actually be BW. This is the major point, it will never be BW, and it was never going to actually be BW. Therefor it will never be able to reach the standards set. This will actually happen until the end of time. Agreat game is released, when the inevitable sequel is released, it's subject to all the hate SC2 is. And btw, i agree and hope SC2 is improved alot into the future, but i still believe some people will never ever be satified with it because it's not their baby gem BW is. Well, given your late join date it is pretty evident that you weren’t even around when SC2 was announced. Regardless of what you find logical or not, people were pretty fucking hyped. And a lot of the former TL community DID actually move over to SC2. My point is that by putting a bigger emphasises on casual players, they probably attracted more new players but missed portions of the BW community. This was obviously the correct decision if you want to sell as many copies of the game as possible. Imo, people have stated pretty logical reasons for disliking SC2, so I wouldn’t say that its just “this is not BW, therefore it sux!” NoNo ok what i mean is, people may have been hyped but it's pretty obvious the majority would have been disappointed no matter what game SC2 turned out to be. People obviously just wanted BW HD. People have complained about.... Bad ui, bath unit pathing, bad units, clumping, bad maps, bad balance, lack of multitasking, casual friendly, no skill required. There aren't actually any more things that could be complained about. There is literally 0 positive about SC2.
Voidrays are better than scouts.
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I could get behind sc2 if they had bw-like positional units and changed some of the mechanics like warpgate. Unfortunately, from the HotS preview it seems blizzard is unwilling to make fundamental changes to the game. Instead they are just adding and removing very specialized units and not changing the core army units.
Coach lee was spot on, it is starcraft in name only. sc2 players dont seem to understand where the hate/animosity is coming from but imagine if all of sc2 suddenly collapsed and moved to LoL. There is already plenty of hate and jealousy of sc2 fans for LoL's popularity and ease of mechanics (seeing any similarities?). Just look at the reaction sc2 fans had when the LoL finals preceded the sc2 finals in ipl3 to see what im talking about.
Then imagine a bunch of LoL fans posting all over the sc2 forum saying how happy they are that sc2 is dying and all the best players are switching to play LoL instead. Don't tell me you'd be happy.
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