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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 08:00:08
March 31 2012 18:31 GMT
#1
So a couple days ago without warning Hamachi suddenly switched the slot max from 8 to 5. I've started organizing Starcraft games with some of my old LAN nerd night friends using Hamachi now that we're in separate cities. Because it's only now and then that we get above 5, I'm not really interested in paying $20/year to a company that changes their services without warning.

I use Hamachi rather than going through iCCup and the like because I find it easier to explain to neophytes rather than port forwarding. Furthermore, as far you can only port forward one computer on a local network and there's usually two if not more at my house that I'd need to port forward when we're trying to run these games (house mate and local friends playing over.)

So what I'm looking for is a good alternative to Hamachi that's not to difficult to set-up. From the Hamachi forums of outraged people switching, I've seen
Neo-Router Free
Remobo
Wippien
Comodo Unite

Of those, Neo-Router is mentioned the most.

What I'm wondering is which is the best replacement and is there any issues with finding games? Hamachi, R1CH had created a ForceHamachi plugin for the Chaos Launcher. I'm going to start experimenting with a couple computers before I start recommending my friends to switch to a program with bugs running Brood War.

Edit- I'm hoping this new progam absolutely has 8 slots available for free as that's really all I need for BW- although it would be nice to not have to add/remove friends.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 31 2012 18:36 GMT
#2
Try Gameranger. very easy and no need for iccup.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
March 31 2012 18:37 GMT
#3
Don't you need to port forward for that as well?
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:42:15
March 31 2012 18:41 GMT
#4
On April 01 2012 03:37 Falling wrote:
Don't you need to port forward for that as well?


hmmm not sure. but I would give it a try since it is very quick to test. sorry though!

also:

http://www.tunngle.net/index.php?l=en

have you heard of tunngle? never used it but I heard it is similar to hamachi.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:50:03
March 31 2012 18:44 GMT
#5
I remember downloading it as one of the alternatives before I went to Hamachi and then it started talking about port forwarding. Not a problem for me as I've already got it port forwarded, but if only one computer per wireless network can be forwarded then it doesn't work. I'll try it out again though.

Edit.
Ah what is this?

Port-Restricted Cone NAT Router

Your internet connection is behind a Port-Restricted Cone NAT ROuter that may prevent some people from connecting.

Ah, then it starts talking about Universal Plugins and forwarding 16000. Don't think this is going to work.
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Gatsbizzle
Profile Joined March 2010
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-31 18:50:33
March 31 2012 18:49 GMT
#6
My friends and I used to use LAN Bridger for VLAN stuff in WC3 (http://www.lanbridger.com/). We've since moved on to the devs' follow-up project Evolve (https://www.evolvehq.com/), which incorporates the VPN-base of LAN Bridger along w/ a suite of other features (playtime tracking, overlay, messaging, voice, video-capture, etc). AFAIK port-forwarding isn't required for either of these; feel free to give it a shot.
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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 31 2012 18:53 GMT
#7
On April 01 2012 03:31 Falling wrote:
Furthermore, as far as I can tell port forwarding only works with one computer on a local network and there's usually two if not more at my house when we're trying to run these games.



That is not true, you can change the port BW uses with Chaos launcher for example and hence forward those separate ports to separate machines on the same network.
KivTM
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia90 Posts
March 31 2012 18:53 GMT
#8
My and my friends use Garena. after the download, takes about 2 minutes to set up.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
March 31 2012 18:56 GMT
#9
I use http://www.tunngle.net/index.php?l=en to play Diablo II with my friends and it works great. Also tested it with Brood War and didn't have any problems.
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
March 31 2012 23:53 GMT
#10
I'm also interested in this, a lot of the alternatives posted here require sign-up though.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
April 01 2012 00:01 GMT
#11
I second garena!
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
April 01 2012 00:32 GMT
#12
I use garena pretty easy and fast
JameS_dodo
Profile Joined February 2009
New Zealand9 Posts
April 01 2012 00:37 GMT
#13
Garena is prob one of the better choices!
If you can get it to work try tunngle, the latency you get on it is near godlike
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AroundTweed
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand27 Posts
April 01 2012 01:11 GMT
#14
I am also putting a good word in for tunngle, it might stuff up occassionally (and require a restart to install ), but once everything is up and running it is very good to use.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
April 01 2012 01:45 GMT
#15
On April 01 2012 03:36 Golgotha wrote:
Try Gameranger. very easy and no need for iccup.

I have never tried it for Sc, but some friends and I use this for Diablo II after we got tired of b.net deleting our characters for inactivity (it's like a once every year or two fad for us, we get into it for a few months then it fades away until we decide to get back into it). I wasn't a huge fan, but it did work, had more or less no setup, and worked fine with some of us having more than one PC per network.
Nihn'kas Neehn
Tru_m4n
Profile Joined September 2009
162 Posts
April 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#16
Tunngle or Garena work very well from my experience.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 02:36:46
April 01 2012 02:26 GMT
#17
Also looking for a hamachi alternative too, since now for some reason my friends and I only get relayed connections between each other. The reduced maximum from 16 --> 10 --> 5 is just icing on the cake.

I will try out NeoRouter and Remobo first, Tuungle and Garena are also possible alternatives.
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Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
April 01 2012 03:03 GMT
#18
I've tried Garena and tunngle and I prefer Garena. Garena is quite easy to set up and get working.
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Gairbear
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States80 Posts
April 01 2012 04:59 GMT
#19
www.filehippo.com/download_hamachi/3325/
still hamachi but its an older version that stills hosts more than 8. Use it all the time on all other games as well.
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
April 01 2012 05:09 GMT
#20
Both garena and tunngle works great, im not sure if garena works on every game like tunngle though.
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