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puppykiller
United States3137 Posts
On February 15 2012 11:46 Release wrote: Stork is the only exception out of the entire progaming community. So when you get a High Templar icon are you going to ask why HT's have caster delay and must each cast storm separately else they will all target the same location? | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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kdgns
United States2427 Posts
On February 15 2012 11:53 puppykiller wrote: So when you get a High Templar icon are you going to ask why HT's have caster delay and must each cast storm separately else they will all target the same location? HTs don't target the same location if you magic box it http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33677 | ||
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Yeah, pretty much. | ||
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VGhost
United States3618 Posts
On February 15 2012 11:32 Wohmfg wrote: I thought the only significant nerf to reavers was that they stopped the scarab shot reload time from resetting when it was loaded into a shuttle so that players couldn't fire off scarabs at a ridiculously imba rate. I didn't know they actually made the AI dumber? I kind of think that what happened was that they didn't (either on purpose or by accident) reset the targeting to match the actual attack cooldown when they did that. So you end up with reavers trying to target the wrong thing. Though that's only my guesswork based on watching hundreds of games and trying to micro reavers myself. Anyway it seems a lot rarer to have duds when the reavers are staying on the ground, though that could be a false impression. | ||
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SkimGuy
Canada709 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7FPCw.png) Cute pic xd | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On February 15 2012 12:03 VGhost wrote: I kind of think that what happened was that they didn't (either on purpose or by accident) reset the targeting to match the actual attack cooldown when they did that. So you end up with reavers trying to target the wrong thing. Though that's only my guesswork based on watching hundreds of games and trying to micro reavers myself. Anyway it seems a lot rarer to have duds when the reavers are staying on the ground, though that could be a false impression. Hmmmmm interesting. Can anyone confirm whether they did intentionally dumb down the AI? | ||
Falling
Canada11524 Posts
Anyways, I'm pretty sure that ai scarab is semi-predictable depending on what angle you're attacking- and then what angle the opponent retreats. Reaver micro is perhaps one of my favourite things even though I suck at it. Regardless of how dumb the ai may be, it creates such exciting play. | ||
white_horse
1019 Posts
On February 15 2012 11:50 sluggaslamoo wrote: Sometimes though scarabs will completely miss their target and fly into open space and blow up. Its pretty funny. Yeah, that happens when the targeted unit has already died, and I believe the scarab automatically explodes if it fails to hit anything after a certain period of time. | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
"we felt the reaver Ai was too intellectual so the Reaver Ai has been reverted to drunk 4th grader levels" | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On February 15 2012 12:46 white_horse wrote: Yeah, that happens when the targeted unit has already died, and I believe the scarab automatically explodes if it fails to hit anything after a certain period of time. Think of them as a blob of energy that decreases its battery life as each seconds pass by. Then everything will start to make more sense. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
Reavers are not in fact machines but have been nerfed to become emotionally attached to the player controlling it. As a result, only the kindest and forgiving Protoss players are able to earn the genuine affection of the reaver who trains secretly on its own until it is mechanically perfect. i.e. Stork and Jangbi love and care for their revears and their reavers care for them. And of course, this statement is reverse causal: if a player does not treat his revear with love and adoration, the reaver will not listen to you. | ||
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jimminy_kriket
Canada5532 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On February 15 2012 12:55 Taekwon wrote: This actually allows me to clarify something. Reavers are not in fact machines but have been nerfed to become emotionally attached to the player controlling it. As a result, only the kindest and forgiving Protoss players are able to earn the genuine affection of the reaver who trains secretly on its own until it is mechanically perfect. i.e. Stork loves and cares for his revears and his reavers care for him. And of course, this statement is reverse causal: if a player does not treat his revear with love and adoration, the reaver will not listen to you. But Much made a heart out of pylons and canons! | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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Game
3191 Posts
On February 15 2012 11:45 Spekulatius wrote: *Sunset* *Game lights the campfire and gathers the children around the soothing source of warmth* "Listen well, kids. I shall tell you a story of the old days..."  More! I really only know things from 98-00 and 05-06 progamer wise. Although, from 98-00 most of it is about irrelevant non-Koreans who were the first pros, or potentially could've been. | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
But TBH, this is also one of the good things about SC. Yes, it's true that no matter how good you get your reavers will still do stupid things, but if you look at the elite users of reavers throughout history dating all the way back to Zileas, it's always been said that their reavers were "different." Somehow they bug less frequently and score big kills more often. Reavers are a unit that require huge star sense, similar to muta vs scourge except even higher. In other words, this is yet another case of Starcraft favoring the better player who practices harder to perfect his usage of a unit. | ||
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