EPTWhat did we get from JD vs Flash multiple finals? A lot of rolling over and dying, and a few drawn out epic games. That's what we're seeing here, except with less talent.
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bearbuddy
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What did we get from JD vs Flash multiple finals? A lot of rolling over and dying, and a few drawn out epic games. That's what we're seeing here, except with less talent. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On February 15 2012 03:55 Milkis wrote: yeah because i just clearly make this shit up just to annoy you guys seriously, what makes you think i'm lying? what makes you think i'd keep mentioning it if i didn't have a good source for it or heard from enough people? Why did come back to write that but still not include where you're getting this stuff from? I for one don't telepathically know what your reliable sources are, but maybe if I did I would be just as convinced as you are. Is there some reason you don't want to share? | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On February 15 2012 04:25 Djabanete wrote: Why did come back to write that but still not include where you're getting this stuff from? I for one don't telepathically know what your reliable sources are, but maybe if I did I would be just as convinced as you are. Is there some reason you don't want to share? Because it's how communication works in esport it seems, by rumor and hearsay. Annoying as hell. + Show Spoiler + Even if I think he's right :/ | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On February 15 2012 03:55 Milkis wrote: yeah because i just clearly make this shit up just to annoy you guys seriously, what makes you think i'm lying? what makes you think i'd keep mentioning it if i didn't have a good source for it or heard from enough people? Why are you taking it personally? Hell, even if entire TL staff (whom I really respect) came out and published well-looking article that basically says "BW players practicing SC2 on side!" I'd still demand for the source if they fail to publish appropriate evidence. Most importantly, please do understand the subject of brood war players practicing for SC2 is extremely emotional matter for the some. It is highly selfish of you to make such attention-grabbing statement then call foul about people disrespecting you when we only want to know concrete evidence supporting such assertion. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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Pelopidas
Canada225 Posts
On February 15 2012 03:55 Milkis wrote: yeah because i just clearly make this shit up just to annoy you guys seriously, what makes you think i'm lying? what makes you think i'd keep mentioning it if i didn't have a good source for it or heard from enough people? People are going to react like that if you don't actually provide any evidence. It makes it seem like you are gloating about being important enough to know insider information that average TL member doesn't. You have to give us something. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
On February 15 2012 04:09 bearbuddy wrote: Don't think that's what contributed to the "lower" quality of game. The builds are crisper, so the execution of cheese is more powerful. It's been mentioned at the beginning of the season that there's going to be less default macro-game because players are going into the match with a build planned over the longer time between matches. What did we get from JD vs Flash multiple finals? A lot of rolling over and dying, and a few drawn out epic games. That's what we're seeing here, except with less talent. I agree with your post. Builds are distinct and well-defined and players definitely come out with "a plan." Last season, with Bo7's and a ton of matches per week between OGN and MBC, a lot of matches felt like players came out just to go general-safe-macro-with-harassment-and-gain-little-edges-until-snowball-into-win. Can't blame them, because they had two games (up to four if ace player) in SPL to prepare for, then there was MSL and OSL to worry about... easily 5+ matches to prepare for, possibly all on different maps against different races... whoa! Now, with only ONE match per week, they have a definite idea of what build to execute on the specific map. If they go for a timing-based build, they precisely execute that timing attack - whether it succeeds or fails is another story. If they go for a macro match, they really get hardcore greedy and sometimes get punished - or else, roll the power of economy and win (against a player who only half-assed their economy, for example). That is, unless you're Turn... + Show Spoiler [KT vs Samsung Spoilers] + Is that manner pylon I see? Well, F**K you and F**K the build I prepared, I'm gunna just impromptu-roll you over with biomech! | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
dont you know if they also play lol or poker ? | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
as an aside, there was a thread which i can't find which lists a lot of the players' music that's played pregame, someone post a link please? closest thing to a low content thread we have and i've been looking for the last 20 minutes so qq | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On February 15 2012 04:45 Pelopidas wrote: People are going to react like that if you don't actually provide any evidence. It makes it seem like you are gloating about being important enough to know insider information that average TL member doesn't. You have to give us something. Milkis is just about one of the last people you would EVER call out for making something up, if he says something then it would only be because he has evidence for it | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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riverkim09
United States291 Posts
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
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salito
1647 Posts
On February 15 2012 09:09 sixfour wrote: not been able to watch much of recent so can't comment a great deal, but cannot complain with stats and soulkey in the top 5 as an aside, there was a thread which i can't find which lists a lot of the players' music that's played pregame, someone post a link please? closest thing to a low content thread we have and i've been looking for the last 20 minutes so qq http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=299938¤tpage=3#47 Yeah, it was hard to find. | ||
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Wohmfg
United Kingdom1292 Posts
On February 15 2012 04:56 OpticalShot wrote: I agree with your post. Builds are distinct and well-defined and players definitely come out with "a plan." Last season, with Bo7's and a ton of matches per week between OGN and MBC, a lot of matches felt like players came out just to go general-safe-macro-with-harassment-and-gain-little-edges-until-snowball-into-win. Can't blame them, because they had two games (up to four if ace player) in SPL to prepare for, then there was MSL and OSL to worry about... easily 5+ matches to prepare for, possibly all on different maps against different races... whoa! Now, with only ONE match per week, they have a definite idea of what build to execute on the specific map. If they go for a timing-based build, they precisely execute that timing attack - whether it succeeds or fails is another story. If they go for a macro match, they really get hardcore greedy and sometimes get punished - or else, roll the power of economy and win (against a player who only half-assed their economy, for example). That is, unless you're Turn... + Show Spoiler [KT vs Samsung Spoilers] + Is that manner pylon I see? Well, F**K you and F**K the build I prepared, I'm gunna just impromptu-roll you over with biomech! As well as what you guys are discussing, do you think we're seeing more planned builds because the maps tend to encourage this? There are two 2 player maps, and it seems the maps have more exploitable features than past seasons of PL. Edit: Even Jade, the 'standard' macro map has reverse ramps making things like Action's proxy hatch vs Jangbi possible. | ||
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KenNage
Chile885 Posts
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
The only thing that might even sway the proportional balance is the lack of an Ace match, so maybe games are a bit less quality, even proportionally. The problem is you see a lot of stomping from the S-Class and high-A-Class players on the mediocre guys instead of seeing a TBLS battle every time their respective teams meet. But Flash is more perfect than ever, so there's that going for the scene this season. Psh, practicing SC2. Stork routinely makes finals while playing WoW, Cell Phone games, and watching Anime. Hey, they only practice BW up to 10-12 hours a day, right? That should be plenty of time for an hour or two of a little hobby on the side, such as SC2, so they can relax and unwind from the APM-intensive day. | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On February 15 2012 10:36 KenNage wrote: why would you care about what milkis says? every single post i read from him about bw players practicing sc2 is more bitter than the previous one, don't let it affect you, maybe he has nothing better to do, throw the rock and then hide the hand, everything he says its just rumors, nothing solid, so whatever, let the rumors be You're new here | ||
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KenNage
Chile885 Posts
im here since 2005 | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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