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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
July 28 2011 04:19 GMT
#121
On July 28 2011 12:20 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 12:12 Ciryandor wrote:
On July 28 2011 10:09 goldfishs wrote:
Some deluded people got into their head that broadwarplayers are superior and more hardcore or whatever then starcraft 2 players. These people are mainly former starcraft 2 players who wants to be hardcore bw player and figures the brightest way to show everyone their resolve is to bash starcraft 2 as loud and often as possible.

You find this in any game, It's the cool club.


There are comparatively fewer trolls from BW players; and many of those trolls wouldn't even touch SC2 with a ten-foot pole in the first place. (at least as far as I've seen them)

Well more like you guys bash SC2 with every chance you get and keep telling us it's a terrible game


The only chances we get are when people come to troll BW-related Community News-featured threads. When those aren't around nobody randomly goes to aggravate SC2ers for no reason.


Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#122
Unless taunted, BW fans hardly make any hostile comments about SC2. We largely just don't care about SC2.
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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
July 28 2011 04:45 GMT
#123
It's nice to see randoms drop in from SC2 that DONT troll. The other day there was some guy that was like
"Does anyone else find this interesting? Imma pop open a beer" and just sat there and watched.

Also it's not like we don't discuss SC2 ourselves. We watched HuK play the other day alongside that kpop thingamabob and OSL/MSL (er what was it).

Personally i would watch more sc2 if it were not for GomTvT. (also the finals of Code A was terribad)

Also Yellow vs Boxer. sif we're not gonna watch that.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 28 2011 04:50 GMT
#124
I may or may not be unique in this, but I find SC2 more playable, but find BW more fun to watch. I enjoy the better graphics, the easier macro, and generally feeling awesome at being able to control 100+ food army in a way I could not in BW(especially zerg or MnM terran). But watching it on a monitor is a lot less appealing.
Meh
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
July 28 2011 04:52 GMT
#125
It's not really surprising - if you look at WoW and MMORPGs, it's all about "my game is better than yours". Or, if you're in primary school, it's "my dad can beat up your dad".

I find it works both ways, BW elitists are hostile towards SC2 while there are also SC2 players hostile towards BW.
Slaynte
Profile Joined April 2010
United States155 Posts
July 28 2011 05:03 GMT
#126
how do you hide the starcraft 2 sidebar? i need to do that ahah
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
July 28 2011 05:05 GMT
#127
yesterday I was in an sc2 stream for the fun of it and there were some guy explaining how bw toss players put their nexuses on 09 beause the probe hotkey was on p. I corrected the dude explaining and said that only foreigners did that and koreans put it near 4-5. and then this one guy chimes in:

"omg only foreigners?
I want to smack this dude."

w-wh-what did I ever do to deserve this hostility?
im gay
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
July 28 2011 05:06 GMT
#128
On July 28 2011 14:03 Slaynte wrote:
how do you hide the starcraft 2 sidebar? i need to do that ahah


Oh come on, this is exactly what the OP was talking about

I think there is hostility because of the "If BW dies then SC2 gets better" or the other way around, i have grown fond of both games, and quite frankly i can see them coexisting together, other than that i dont understand why there would always be that one troll from either sides and starts a flame war, its not cool.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
July 28 2011 05:07 GMT
#129
Hate is from Blizzard vs Kespa. I think BW fanatics feel like someone is shoving food in their mouth with stopping bw starleagues and throwing money into sc2. Although it's just a matter of IP laws that was ongoing for years, opportunity of sc2 release went both ways for blizzard.

If that didn't happen, bw elitists won't hold much grudge. And the korean culture is very sensitive to foreign culture in regards to how business is ran.

Seeing as the blizz vs kespa has now been resolved, I think this hostility will soon fade in time.

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Slaynte
Profile Joined April 2010
United States155 Posts
July 28 2011 05:13 GMT
#130
On July 28 2011 14:06 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 14:03 Slaynte wrote:
how do you hide the starcraft 2 sidebar? i need to do that ahah


Oh come on, this is exactly what the OP was talking about

I think there is hostility because of the "If BW dies then SC2 gets better" or the other way around, i have grown fond of both games, and quite frankly i can see them coexisting together, other than that i dont understand why there would always be that one troll from either sides and starts a flame war, its not cool.


I'm not hostile towards SC2. I just don't care at all about it, so I'd rather not have to scroll further to get to the BW forums.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:22:53
July 28 2011 05:20 GMT
#131
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=199225

my thoughts on the matter...sorta..

but I'm sure even those who hate SC2 wouldn't miss a LIMJINROK..
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 28 2011 05:23 GMT
#132
On July 28 2011 06:27 puppykiller wrote:
No one I know is hostile to ppl who are switching from sc2 to BW. Most hostility i notice is directed towards ppl who know absolutely nothing about BW trying to talk about the game like they play it everyday.


This. BW fans have to put up with a lot of bullshit posts like "Flash/JD/Bisu/X should switch to SC2", "BW is outdated", etc by people who clearly have never even watched competitive BW. Just look at all the hate that intrigue got when he wrote this. Facts that were obvious to anyone who was familiar with both scenes get shouted down by a legion of people who have only ever watched SC2 and still think their opinion is worth just as much as people who have been following Starcraft for years.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
simbot
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:30:29
July 28 2011 05:29 GMT
#133
I think it's worth pointing out that the vast majority of the posts in this thread (and generally the BW forum) are:
more polite, well written, well reasoned and explained than the SC2 forum.

E: especially regarding 'strategy'
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 28 2011 05:29 GMT
#134
When the Proleague season first started, every single BW LR thread had comments like "die BW die" or "BW is dead" from SC2 fans. And I mean every LR thread. It only stopped after awhile when the mods started issuing bans.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 28 2011 05:32 GMT
#135
On July 28 2011 14:23 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 06:27 puppykiller wrote:
No one I know is hostile to ppl who are switching from sc2 to BW. Most hostility i notice is directed towards ppl who know absolutely nothing about BW trying to talk about the game like they play it everyday.


This. BW fans have to put up with a lot of bullshit posts like "Flash/JD/Bisu/X should switch to SC2", "BW is outdated", etc by people who clearly have never even watched competitive BW. Just look at all the hate that intrigue got when he wrote this. Facts that were obvious to anyone who was familiar with both scenes get shouted down by a legion of people who have only ever watched SC2 and still think their opinion is worth just as much as people who have been following Starcraft for years.

well that article wasnt really written in the nicest sense and only based off of mostly speculation at that point, although with people like mma and puma with recent wins theres more and more evidence that BW training => big SC2 wins
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lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:38:26
July 28 2011 05:37 GMT
#136
Fan of both games. I care for the global scene and the rapid evolution of gameplay in SC2, while I like how refined and more epic pro BW tends to be.

Most fans for either side either respect or don't care for each side. Some SC2 fans are kiddies that can't see past outdated graphics or can't appreciate history. And some BW fans are just disillusioned with Blizzard antics and with SC2 not being similar enough to SC1
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
July 28 2011 05:42 GMT
#137
However, there's a general trend of SC2-bashing and not specifically SC2 fan-bashing. I get the impression that some BW-exclusive fans are becoming defensive because of the international popularity and fame that SC2 has gotten in just one year, and not to mention the fantastic prize pools. I personally still find BW more enjoyable to watch, but I've found many comments in the BW section about SC2 to be unabashedly biased to the nth degree.

There's some edginess between SC2 and BW fans. Many SC2 fans cannot accept that BW has a higher skill ceiling and that BW pros have dominated the SC2 scene today (international, especially American BW doesn't count since the scene was practically dead and the talent pool had already moved over to WC3). Many BW fans cannot accept that BW as an esport is dying; sponsors are harder to come by, young amateurs are switching over, teams are being disbanded, even TV channels are possibly dropping BW. While I'm sure that as long as the current A and S-class players continue playing, there will be enough fans to sustain pro BW for a while, I really don't think BW will outlast this TBLS era

Flash is the last bonjwa. Stork won't ever make a come back T.T
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 28 2011 05:52 GMT
#138
On July 28 2011 14:03 Slaynte wrote:
how do you hide the starcraft 2 sidebar? i need to do that ahah

You can minimise all the tabs under SC2 but if you want it to disappear entirely then this is the link you need
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=205112
It's for chrome, but IIRC there was someone who made a script for Firefox as well somewhere in that thread if you use FF
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 28 2011 05:53 GMT
#139
I don't care about SC2. Different game. But I agree with other people about the constant influx of trolls in the BW threads which are annoying as hell.

And I have to say that since SC2 was released I fell that the number of trolls has increased significantly. Also I'm under impression SC2 fans are younger than average BW fan (make sense since SC1 was released in 1998) and hence less mature which I find also annoying.

But to re-iterate: "I just don't care about SC2; at all, whatsoever."
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 05:55:20
July 28 2011 05:54 GMT
#140
On July 28 2011 14:42 tyCe wrote:
However, there's a general trend of SC2-bashing and not specifically SC2 fan-bashing. I get the impression that some BW-exclusive fans are becoming defensive because of the international popularity and fame that SC2 has gotten in just one year, and not to mention the fantastic prize pools. I personally still find BW more enjoyable to watch, but I've found many comments in the BW section about SC2 to be unabashedly biased to the nth degree.

There's some edginess between SC2 and BW fans. Many SC2 fans cannot accept that BW has a higher skill ceiling and that BW pros have dominated the SC2 scene today (international, especially American BW doesn't count since the scene was practically dead and the talent pool had already moved over to WC3). Many BW fans cannot accept that BW as an esport is dying; sponsors are harder to come by, young amateurs are switching over, teams are being disbanded, even TV channels are possibly dropping BW. While I'm sure that as long as the current A and S-class players continue playing, there will be enough fans to sustain pro BW for a while, I really don't think BW will outlast this TBLS era

Flash is the last bonjwa. Stork won't ever make a come back T.T


I don't think so, I mean everyone fully understands BW will die and that isn't the problem. What annoys people are either people coming purposefully to taunt people at any sign of BW's scene having problems. That and the never ending "y u no move on to sc2???"

I don't know about you guys but when BW dies I'll probably wash my hands of RTS and eSports. Tried SC2 (the BW people were the most hyped about sc2 back in the days ) didn't enjoy it. Felt nothing like BW and I don't see a game like BW coming back for a long time so adios~
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