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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 30 2011 19:30 GMT
#541
On July 31 2011 04:13 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 04:06 Blasterion wrote:
=0 You guys let the Bisu remark slip by! You should've jabbed at that....

We are all fans of Bisu. Insulting him is not something we will ever do. You're new, so we can forgive you for one such remark.

You can stop trolling too, it gets a little repetitive
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ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 19:35:19
July 30 2011 19:33 GMT
#542
I watched some SC2 today w friends (some tournament, not sure which one, the one w Huk vs SongDurae(sp?)..) and i lol-ed hard at the commentator xD.. I know next to nothing about SC2, and i could tell whos winning.. They clearly couldnt, + Show Spoiler +
and everytime they go like "Huk has built up a scary army, SDR isnt getting much income, etc" SDR crushed Huk right afterwards. At one point (in a TvT game) they were saying how someone has attacked from a bad angle, and the other T already fortified n stuffs.. The attacker won the game within 20 seconds (same attack).. They said "I dont understand what i am seeing right now".. Cmon man T_T, the commentators for Evo2011 are SOOO much better, i learnt a lot watching (i knew nothing about SF)
.. Of course there are a bunch of other moments, but why waste pixels? :3

Oh and i come back here half expecting someone still talking about Final Fantasy or Visual Novels.. Sigh im slightly disappointed
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
klops
Profile Joined June 2010
United States674 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 19:50:40
July 30 2011 19:50 GMT
#543
On July 31 2011 04:33 ffreakk wrote:
I watched some SC2 today w friends (some tournament, not sure which one, the one w Huk vs SongDurae(sp?)..) and i lol-ed hard at the commentator xD.. I know next to nothing about SC2, and i could tell whos winning.. They clearly couldnt, + Show Spoiler +
and everytime they go like "Huk has built up a scary army, SDR isnt getting much income, etc" SDR crushed Huk right afterwards. At one point (in a TvT game) they were saying how someone has attacked from a bad angle, and the other T already fortified n stuffs.. The attacker won the game within 20 seconds (same attack).. They said "I dont understand what i am seeing right now".. Cmon man T_T, the commentators for Evo2011 are SOOO much better, i learnt a lot watching (i knew nothing about SF)
.. Of course there are a bunch of other moments, but why waste pixels? :3

Oh and i come back here half expecting someone still talking about Final Fantasy or Visual Novels.. Sigh im slightly disappointed


yeah man, day9 knows nothing about starcraft.

also, its DongRaeGu.
Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
July 31 2011 02:03 GMT
#544
On July 31 2011 04:50 klops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 04:33 ffreakk wrote:
I watched some SC2 today w friends (some tournament, not sure which one, the one w Huk vs SongDurae(sp?)..) and i lol-ed hard at the commentator xD.. I know next to nothing about SC2, and i could tell whos winning.. They clearly couldnt, + Show Spoiler +
and everytime they go like "Huk has built up a scary army, SDR isnt getting much income, etc" SDR crushed Huk right afterwards. At one point (in a TvT game) they were saying how someone has attacked from a bad angle, and the other T already fortified n stuffs.. The attacker won the game within 20 seconds (same attack).. They said "I dont understand what i am seeing right now".. Cmon man T_T, the commentators for Evo2011 are SOOO much better, i learnt a lot watching (i knew nothing about SF)
.. Of course there are a bunch of other moments, but why waste pixels? :3

Oh and i come back here half expecting someone still talking about Final Fantasy or Visual Novels.. Sigh im slightly disappointed


yeah man, day9 knows nothing about starcraft.

also, its DongRaeGu.


Cmon im pretty shure day 9 is only trying to keep the hype up. ( I hate it too)
But he is great for e-sports so i just try to avoid him :D
Aa a huge fan of Dj. Wheat, (knew him already from his Quake casts), im pretty confused when they comment a game together.

anyway BW>SCII !
But in my eyes SCII is much better than expected and probably the best RTS game of the last 10 years... so who cares.
F-
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 31 2011 20:59 GMT
#545
For all the "BW is dead wah" people, the Ribbon Classic just crossed 400 viewers, despite A.) Being a relatively small tournament, and B.) Being on during the last day of MLG Anaheim.

I'm hoping to have my next tournament cross 500, or even 750. I think I know how to make it happen
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 31 2011 21:51 GMT
#546
On August 01 2011 05:59 Ribbon wrote:
For all the "BW is dead wah" people, the Ribbon Classic just crossed 400 viewers, despite A.) Being a relatively small tournament, and B.) Being on during the last day of MLG Anaheim.

I'm hoping to have my next tournament cross 500, or even 750. I think I know how to make it happen


Gogo Ribbon <3
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 22:17:59
July 31 2011 22:17 GMT
#547
Yes, Ribbon. That jungle match with the two hatch lurker drop (vT lol) was quite enjoyable.
More enjoyable than both MLG streams.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
July 31 2011 22:43 GMT
#548
On August 01 2011 07:17 blubbdavid wrote:
Yes, Ribbon. That jungle match with the two hatch lurker drop (vT lol) was quite enjoyable.
More enjoyable than both MLG streams.

How would you know? If you were watching Ribbon's stream? Why make the comment in the first place? The whole point of this thread has been forgotten, and there is nothing but people saying there game is better than yours in these last pages. Some of the BW fans are worse than Sc2 fans. If you actually watched MLG you might know that there have been some really exciting games (OMG Sc2 has only been out for a year and people are still learning to play different ways!?!?!?!?!). Stop shitting all over each other. Congratz on the viewers Ribbon. Ima turn on your stream now, even though I'm watching MMA vs DRG on the blue stream.
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 31 2011 22:48 GMT
#549
On August 01 2011 07:43 Wrongspeedy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 07:17 blubbdavid wrote:
Yes, Ribbon. That jungle match with the two hatch lurker drop (vT lol) was quite enjoyable.
More enjoyable than both MLG streams.

How would you know? If you were watching Ribbon's stream? Why make the comment in the first place? The whole point of this thread has been forgotten, and there is nothing but people saying there game is better than yours in these last pages. Some of the BW fans are worse than Sc2 fans. If you actually watched MLG you might know that there have been some really exciting games (OMG Sc2 has only been out for a year and people are still learning to play different ways!?!?!?!?!). Stop shitting all over each other. Congratz on the viewers Ribbon. Ima turn on your stream now, even though I'm watching MMA vs DRG on the blue stream.


People can switch between streams to decide which they like best, relax man.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
July 31 2011 22:49 GMT
#550
On July 30 2011 03:02 hiawatha wrote:
This thread has devolved into a mess in hilarious, expected fashion. You guys are literally picking apart the way previous posters have worded their comments? Really?

Anyways, MLG Anaheim is this evening, BW fans I invite you to check it out if you haven't bothered watching anything SC2 related yet/in a while. You might find yourself entertained.

I wrote it because of this. I have to admit, the recent game DRG vs MMA on shattered temple was interesting, but not as interesting as the aformentioned lurker drop.

Oh, btw, look at my signature.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1401 Posts
July 31 2011 23:02 GMT
#551
On August 01 2011 07:49 blubbdavid wrote:A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD


You know that's a pretty low post count you got there blubbdavid.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 31 2011 23:25 GMT
#552
This is why
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245595&currentpage=82#1629
You can't fight the feeling.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 23:34:08
July 31 2011 23:28 GMT
#553
On August 01 2011 08:25 lokiM wrote:
This is why
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=245595&currentpage=82#1629


You may forgive him, none of the players in his signature is a toss.

That guy has an average of 40 posts per day O_o.

Well, you can't hate him, he wrote this:

On July 27 2011 19:01 Yew wrote:
Well, I wish all of you BW fans the best of luck. I never watched BW like I said earlier in the thread, but I realize how important it is for eSports. Hopefully this thing falls through and BW lives on. So from a SC2 fan, BW fighting!!!


which is nice.

Wtf, this thread becomes an "automated ban list lite".
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
July 31 2011 23:38 GMT
#554
@OP: What is the point of making this thread and asking this question if there is "hostility" You will most likely either fuel it more, or it won't matter.

Also, as far as I can see, there really is no hostility. I haven't seen someone create a thread in SC2 forums bashing SC2 (there were some that complained about game features/units/new game mechanics, but they were well thought out, edited and well prepared. they are not your "hostility" material.) However, I believe that some people from both sides can't understand each other well enough.

For example, someone posts something that is related to expansion of SC2 and perhaps a big profile BW player switching to SC2 (say, Jaedong) and then some people just react very negatively to that in an elitist manner by looking down upon those who love SC2, and that angers some SC2 fans to start a BW v. SC2 war in that thread, while lacking the knowledge for BW, so their arguments fall short from doing anything. People still claim BW has had 10 years of development so Starcraft 2 needs time to improve in certain areas (say, gameplay). Yet, as so many people who regularly follow BW point out, BW had 10 years from the start with like no previous concrete RTS knowledge and skill set? Macro, micro, timing attack, all those sorts of things were already known when SC2 launched, so it's not exactly 10 years we're looking at here.

From the point of those who follow SC2, seeing someone like Flash play SC2 is really exciting because they want to see what he can do with this new game. They're passionate and excited. There is nothing wrong with it, and I don't think any comment of this sort would create a negative response (except those who want to troll or sth) Problems is when the responses are of this manner (Flash would never play a worse game. He really loves BW so much, he won't play an inferior game)

Although the comment may really be true, this response, is sort of really negative to some people, and they want to respond with their passion, which turns into BW v. SC2 war. When they know almost nothing about BW though, it becomes hilarious. I only try to talk about the simplified mechanics when I can, which is the only thing I feel like I can talk about. Some people go and try to prove BW will die not too long from now and SC2 will dominate or something. It's just stupid to read comments like this.

There are some people who I really am tired of arguing from both sides, such as those who think babysitting an scv every time to mine is a big part of "skillset". But hey, it's human nature. Just avoid coming here maybe, or responding to them, and keep watching the game you love.

Threads like this won't accomplish anything.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
August 01 2011 00:15 GMT
#555
On July 31 2011 04:09 SeraKuDA wrote:
Brood Wars time is done. Move past it already.

User was temp banned for this post.


and THIS is why ppl are "hostile"
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
August 01 2011 01:14 GMT
#556
Well, I think some comments are not even borderline hostile.

'Oh you won't see this in SC2?' -> these might irk some people, but it's true that different units result in different plays.

As for real hostile comments, I have seen users who cross that line reprimanded quickly (more often a temporary ban than a warning). Overall, a very small number of forum lurkers and veteran users (going by post-count, not date of registry) who relay the message a few times before they return to better judgment.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
August 01 2011 08:16 GMT
#557
On August 01 2011 10:14 domane wrote:
Well, I think some comments are not even borderline hostile.

'Oh you won't see this in SC2?' -> these might irk some people, but it's true that different units result in different plays.


The reasonable BW people are in the BW forums, and the reasonable SC2 people are in the SC2 forums. So all BW people see of SC2 is trolls, and all SC2 people see of Brood War is trolls. Hence, hostility. 0.01% of people are trolls, but they know how to stick out.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 01 2011 08:48 GMT
#558
On August 01 2011 08:38 Bleak wrote:
@OP: What is the point of making this thread and asking this question if there is "hostility" You will most likely either fuel it more, or it won't matter.

Also, as far as I can see, there really is no hostility. I haven't seen someone create a thread in SC2 forums bashing SC2 (there were some that complained about game features/units/new game mechanics, but they were well thought out, edited and well prepared. they are not your "hostility" material.) However, I believe that some people from both sides can't understand each other well enough.

For example, someone posts something that is related to expansion of SC2 and perhaps a big profile BW player switching to SC2 (say, Jaedong) and then some people just react very negatively to that in an elitist manner by looking down upon those who love SC2, and that angers some SC2 fans to start a BW v. SC2 war in that thread, while lacking the knowledge for BW, so their arguments fall short from doing anything. People still claim BW has had 10 years of development so Starcraft 2 needs time to improve in certain areas (say, gameplay). Yet, as so many people who regularly follow BW point out, BW had 10 years from the start with like no previous concrete RTS knowledge and skill set? Macro, micro, timing attack, all those sorts of things were already known when SC2 launched, so it's not exactly 10 years we're looking at here.

From the point of those who follow SC2, seeing someone like Flash play SC2 is really exciting because they want to see what he can do with this new game. They're passionate and excited. There is nothing wrong with it, and I don't think any comment of this sort would create a negative response (except those who want to troll or sth) Problems is when the responses are of this manner (Flash would never play a worse game. He really loves BW so much, he won't play an inferior game)

Although the comment may really be true, this response, is sort of really negative to some people, and they want to respond with their passion, which turns into BW v. SC2 war. When they know almost nothing about BW though, it becomes hilarious. I only try to talk about the simplified mechanics when I can, which is the only thing I feel like I can talk about. Some people go and try to prove BW will die not too long from now and SC2 will dominate or something. It's just stupid to read comments like this.

There are some people who I really am tired of arguing from both sides, such as those who think babysitting an scv every time to mine is a big part of "skillset". But hey, it's human nature. Just avoid coming here maybe, or responding to them, and keep watching the game you love.

Threads like this won't accomplish anything.


People respond negatively because it's annoying when people come into the Brood War boards to talk about players switching to Starcraft 2. Like, what do you expect? It'd be like me telling you that I hope your best friends move away.

As for manually making SCVs mine: it obviously is an important part of the game. It takes up APM and attention, and lesser players are unable to keep up.
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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
August 01 2011 09:14 GMT
#559
Hey, I was mentioned in this thread xD
fatfail
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States386 Posts
August 12 2011 00:31 GMT
#560
I think the reason for the hostility is just because a small portion of posters in both sc2 and bw forums who write insensitive posts, which increase tension and hostility. As the sc2 members are more in number, it is natural that bw gets a bit more pressure from sc2 than sc2 gets from bw. It is unfair to say that bw players look down on sc2 players, or that sc2 players continually harass bw players. Really, those are just generalizations and generalizations are what cause hostility in the first place. We all just need to have a bit more discipline and ignore the 1% of really irritating people on TL.
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