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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:23:04
March 07 2011 16:20 GMT
#1
I seriously envy you BW and SC2 fans that you can just pick a side and be happy that you can just argue against the other side in some god forsaken thread where someone said some random shit like

move over BW,SC2 is the best!!

and every single BW fan will flame you
or
SC2 is a joke of a game and does not deserve the name starcraft

and every SC2 fan will flame you.

and me?Where do I stand?Right in between...I enjoy BW and SC2 a lot even though I don't play both that much,but I enjoy watching them as a spectator.I've been following the BW scene since 2008 and immediately started following SC2 scene as I got my beta key,I also joined TL soon after that(for the second time).

I feel the need to argue for and against both sides because I don't see myself as a BW or a SC2 fan but a fan of StarCraft.therefore I cannot pick a side since they are 2 parts of a whole.

so If you say stuff like SC2 suck bro and will never be as good as BW,then I will punch you in the face through the internet.and if you say stuff like BW is old and SC2 is better then I will kick you in the face(because its downright retarded).

I will never pick a side,but I wish I could,but I wish even more that there are no sides and every one is happy with each other.

this is for my 4000.

Im really tired,I haven't slept for 52 hours,I'm pretty sure this blog still makes sense to you.

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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 07 2011 16:24 GMT
#2
Just pick both sides, I did. :D
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
March 07 2011 16:24 GMT
#3
Come to our side, we have cookies!

Also, you fail at math ^^
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
March 07 2011 16:24 GMT
#4
On March 08 2011 01:24 kOre wrote:
Just pick both sides, I did. :D


I did too..but its starting to pain me a lot.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 16:25 GMT
#5
Ok I agree sides are not good things but seriously, our side is right. There hasn't been a single valid argument contrary.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 07 2011 16:26 GMT
#6
It almost makes sense since you fail at math but you are really tired and so am I so math is irrelevant. Its hard to pick sides T___T Decisions are hard to make.
Jaedong :3
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 07 2011 16:26 GMT
#7
4000 huh? You still have 3999 on my screen =]

I'm at a crossroad myself, where I think I prefer SC2 more, simply because I'm better at it and it's more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes (shitty reasons I know). But I love how BW was so mechanically difficult and how the games are just waaaaay more exciting, not to mention the crazy micro battles and tricks you see that most likely won't carry over to SC2.

In the end, they're both Starcraft and I'll love both of them!
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 16:28 GMT
#8
On March 08 2011 01:26 Synystyr wrote:
4000 huh? You still have 3999 on my screen =]

I'm at a crossroad myself, where I think I prefer SC2 more, simply because I'm better at it and it's more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes (shitty reasons I know). But I love how BW was so mechanically difficult and how the games are just waaaaay more exciting, not to mention the crazy micro battles and tricks you see that most likely won't carry over to SC2.

In the end, they're both Starcraft and I'll love both of them!

Yeah I would love to love them both but this is like Harry Potter IMO
Neither can live while the other survives.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
des
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:34:32
March 07 2011 16:32 GMT
#9
BW rules SC2 isn't bad.

I mean we could all be playing warcraft 3 right

On March 08 2011 01:28 etheovermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 01:26 Synystyr wrote:
4000 huh? You still have 3999 on my screen =]

I'm at a crossroad myself, where I think I prefer SC2 more, simply because I'm better at it and it's more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes (shitty reasons I know). But I love how BW was so mechanically difficult and how the games are just waaaaay more exciting, not to mention the crazy micro battles and tricks you see that most likely won't carry over to SC2.

In the end, they're both Starcraft and I'll love both of them!

Yeah I would love to love them both but this is like Harry Potter IMO
Neither can live while the other survives.


What why can't two games coexist don't be silly
my larvae bring all the zerg to the yard
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 16:37 GMT
#10
On March 08 2011 01:32 des wrote:
BW rules SC2 isn't bad.

I mean we could all be playing warcraft 3 right

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 01:28 etheovermind wrote:
On March 08 2011 01:26 Synystyr wrote:
4000 huh? You still have 3999 on my screen =]

I'm at a crossroad myself, where I think I prefer SC2 more, simply because I'm better at it and it's more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes (shitty reasons I know). But I love how BW was so mechanically difficult and how the games are just waaaaay more exciting, not to mention the crazy micro battles and tricks you see that most likely won't carry over to SC2.

In the end, they're both Starcraft and I'll love both of them!

Yeah I would love to love them both but this is like Harry Potter IMO
Neither can live while the other survives.


What why can't two games coexist don't be silly

Market is too small for two games that target the same sector.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
March 07 2011 16:38 GMT
#11
Lol I am in the same boat as you. But unlike you, the only pain I feel is when sc2 people flame BW and not the other way around lol. I like sc2 because I am better at it (not a good reason I know lol), but I just like BW...because of many reasons.
End my suffering
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
March 07 2011 16:39 GMT
#12
I wanna play BW in the SC2 engine... :8
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:40:48
March 07 2011 16:39 GMT
#13
On March 08 2011 01:38 Ayush_SCtoss wrote:
Lol I am in the same boat as you. But unlike you, the only pain I feel is when sc2 people flame BW and not the other way around lol. I like sc2 because I am better at it (not a good reason I know lol), but I just like BW...because of many reasons.


if you read the post you will see that I am more in favour of BW than SC2.

On March 08 2011 01:39 Catch]22 wrote:
I wanna play BW in the SC2 engine... :8


starcraft 2 brood war
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#14
I like both too! It's the only way to go imo~
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:43:50
March 07 2011 16:42 GMT
#15
I think the two sides really tend to flare up in the BW/SC2 sections, but overall for me:

- enjoy BW because of the players, amount of mechanical skill required by the players and the amount of battles which occur etc (doesn't suffer as much from "giant ball syndrome" as SC2). Proleague is also awesome (GCPL and the GSTL are ok but ideally it'd be nice to see a much much longer, korean/international team league).

- enjoy SCII because of the foreigners in Korean tournaments, how huge the scene has gotten outside of Korea, and the fact that there is constantly available English commentary. Korean commentators have a lot of energy and all but nothing beats being able to understand it. edit: Personally I found the gameplay in the GSL at first to be all-in/cheese/awful 10 minute games every time, but with the introduction of new maps/macro style/etc I tend to enjoy it more.

There's no reason the two can't co-exist (as we've already seen they can). The only thing that irks me is when people go into the BW scene and tell people that their scene is dead/should die/etc. >_>
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
March 07 2011 16:43 GMT
#16
Both SC2 and SC:BW are great amazing games, choosing one of them is impossible in my eyes.
They both have their good and bad sides
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
March 07 2011 16:50 GMT
#17
I just stopped caring regardless. Most of the flames are generally people trolling for a reaction, so I really don't care about those. Oh no someone on the internet just said that "BW is an archaic piece of shit that just needs to die", what are we to do?! I just chuckle to myself and move on.

If people actually give a reason why they think one game is better or worse that is terribly misguided I might try to explain it why thats not really true to them, but that is pretty much the extent to which I will worry about it.

So many of the posts are motivated purely by emotions, desire to troll, or just plain ignorance. The only ones worth considering at all are the last, and even then alot of times people just don't want to consider the other side of the coin at all. While I do wish people would stop posting random hate because it frequently causes derailment of otherwise decent threads (we are doing ALOT better about this than before though) I personally hardly notice, or care, about the random hate posts.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
TheAura
Profile Joined November 2010
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 16:51:45
March 07 2011 16:50 GMT
#18
The only thing that irks me is when people go into the BW scene and tell people that their scene is dead/should die/etc.


as much as i love both, BW is dying. Fact is SC2 will be around for at least a few more years, the expansions will make sure of that. BW can not stay on life support forever waiting for sc2 to potentially die. The international scene is effectively gone, and i reckon the korea sc2 scene will eventually (unfortunately) whither off as well. People will still play BW, but i think the korea pro scene can only last a little longer.
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
March 07 2011 16:53 GMT
#19
On March 08 2011 01:50 TheAura wrote:
Show nested quote +
The only thing that irks me is when people go into the BW scene and tell people that their scene is dead/should die/etc.


as much as i love both, BW is dying. Fact is SC2 will be around for at least a few more years, the expansions will make sure of that. BW can not stay on life support forever waiting for sc2 to potentially die. The international scene is effectively gone, and i reckon the korea sc2 scene will eventually (unfortunately) whither off as well. People will still play BW, but i think the korea pro scene can only last a little longer.


Just....no....

You're probably saying this because of WCG or something like that, The Koreans don't particularly care about WCG compared to pro league/msl/osl because it's not as prestigious. While they have to say things like "we hope to have another korean rep but the competition is stiff" everyone unofficially knows that Koreans will rape any foreign competition and the gold/silver will be in korean hands.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 16:54 GMT
#20
On March 08 2011 01:50 TheAura wrote:
Show nested quote +
The only thing that irks me is when people go into the BW scene and tell people that their scene is dead/should die/etc.


as much as i love both, BW is dying. Fact is SC2 will be around for at least a few more years, the expansions will make sure of that. BW can not stay on life support forever waiting for sc2 to potentially die. The international scene is effectively gone, and i reckon the korea sc2 scene will eventually (unfortunately) whither off as well. People will still play BW, but i think the korea pro scene can only last a little longer.

He says saying that bothers him,
so you say it
>_<
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
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