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Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
March 07 2011 16:57 GMT
#21
I love watching both. There has been times where GSL and BW were on at the same time and I picked based on players. I really hope both stay strong.
RIP MBC Game Hero
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
March 07 2011 17:01 GMT
#22
I envy people who can actually like sc2 , watching it aswell as playing it. I would love to try and get good at it and play tournies , I would love to be able to watch all the millions of tournaments out there...But I just can't , I can't help the way I feel about the game so I don't find "the Broodwar" only side that glorious actually
BW for life !
TheAura
Profile Joined November 2010
96 Posts
March 07 2011 17:02 GMT
#23
On March 08 2011 01:53 Trowabarton756 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 01:50 TheAura wrote:
The only thing that irks me is when people go into the BW scene and tell people that their scene is dead/should die/etc.


as much as i love both, BW is dying. Fact is SC2 will be around for at least a few more years, the expansions will make sure of that. BW can not stay on life support forever waiting for sc2 to potentially die. The international scene is effectively gone, and i reckon the korea sc2 scene will eventually (unfortunately) whither off as well. People will still play BW, but i think the korea pro scene can only last a little longer.


Just....no....

You're probably saying this because of WCG or something like that, The Koreans don't particularly care about WCG compared to pro league/msl/osl because it's not as prestigious. While they have to say things like "we hope to have another korean rep but the competition is stiff" everyone unofficially knows that Koreans will rape any foreign competition and the gold/silver will be in korean hands.




The WCG is just another sign that the foreign BW scene is almost gone. So that leaves BW in korea. Now i believe that in future many factors will whither it out. Factors such as how hard it will be to even get started in BW, great money popping up everywhere for SC2 tourneys, who knows how the blizzard kespa thing will turn out. There is more incentive for new players to begin sc2, and the amount of pros playing BW will fall. I hope im wrong though.

He says saying that bothers him,
so you say it
>_<



umm no... he said he hates when people say its dead/should die.. i said that i believe it is dying. I dont want it to die, and i know it isnt dead. I just think it is dying.

Note i truly hope my feelings are wrong, as i very much enjoy both, but i agree with the harry potter reference that was made.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 17:08:00
March 07 2011 17:04 GMT
#24
I don't really pick sides but I'm sort of forced into one group regardless. I love both scenes, but I absolutely can't stand some of the crap that goes on in the BW forums. BW forums have better LR threads by far but in the general section, any mention of liking SC2 as well gets countless replies of elitist stupidity. I gave up trying to appeal to the BW only crowd a long time ago because the fact that I think SC2 is a worthy sequel discredits my entire posts to them. I suppose I'm able to tolerate the "BW should die" idiots easier but at least I don't have to appeal to the SC2 crowd simply because I watch BW also.

Edit: All in all the whole thing is stupid so I've just refrained from posting at all in most threads. Lurker ftw.
Taengoo ♥
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
March 07 2011 17:07 GMT
#25
I like both too!
except I'm terrible at broodwar so I mostly just watch -_-;
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#26
On March 08 2011 02:04 xBillehx wrote:
I don't really pick sides but I'm sort of forced into one group regardless. I love both scenes, but I absolutely can't stand some of the crap that goes on in the BW forums. BW forums have better LR threads by far but in the general section, any mention of liking SC2 as well gets countless replies of elitist stupidity. I gave up trying to appeal to the BW only crowd a long time ago because the fact that I think SC2 is a worthy sequel discredits my entire posts to them. I suppose I'm able to tolerate the "BW should die" idiots easier but at least I don't have to appeal to the SC2 crowd simply because I watch BW also.

Its just tough for people who know that BW is the best game ever to cope with the fact that SC2 is taking away all the best foreigners from their scene. Its not elitism. Make a topic in the BW forums asking for help or something. Everyone will help as much as they can and usually do their best to help you.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
March 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#27
I love BW and I'll always stand by it but I also try to limit my douchiness and ire against people who say SC2 is better. Different strokes for different folks, and I can enjoy SC2 as well even if I like another game more.

Sometimes I do feel like saying something elitist and patronizing to people who joined from WC3 or for SC2 but then I also try to stamp down on that urge and tell myself not to be a dumbass. This system mostly works for me. Mostly.

Now I find that the more I can control my urge to respond to SC2 vs. BW posts that annoy me, the less those posts actually annoy and I can just easily ignore them.
TheAura
Profile Joined November 2010
96 Posts
March 07 2011 17:10 GMT
#28

Its just tough for people who know that BW is the best game ever to cope with the fact that SC2 is taking away all the best foreigners from their scene. Its not elitism. Make a topic in the BW forums asking for help or something. Everyone will help as much as they can and usually do their best to help you.


while i agree that BW is a better game, the opinion of best game ever is purely subjective, and to deny that and claim its superiority based on your opinions is indeed showing elitism.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
March 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#29
BW forever, and long live SC2!
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 17:15:16
March 07 2011 17:12 GMT
#30
So because it is my opinon that StarCraft 2 is only a mediocre decent game, while StarCraft is awesome, you will punch me in the face?

very mature

I didn't choose my opinion... my opinion was a reaction to playing the games.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
March 07 2011 17:14 GMT
#31
see for me BW outside korea is dead,literally nothing,just mu(japanese) since TSL2 and since then whenever I heard someone say BW is dying I want to kick them in the face with my spiked shoes.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 17:15 GMT
#32
On March 08 2011 02:10 TheAura wrote:
Show nested quote +

Its just tough for people who know that BW is the best game ever to cope with the fact that SC2 is taking away all the best foreigners from their scene. Its not elitism. Make a topic in the BW forums asking for help or something. Everyone will help as much as they can and usually do their best to help you.


while i agree that BW is a better game, the opinion of best game ever is purely subjective, and to deny that and claim its superiority based on your opinions is indeed showing elitism.

Well maybe we just have different understandings of elitism. I would view an elitist attitude as being one that doesn't allow new players to join.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
March 07 2011 17:16 GMT
#33
I like sc2, but it brings no where near the same enjoyment as BW does.

LoL caught my attention way more.

Good blog yo!
In the woods, there lurks..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
March 07 2011 17:22 GMT
#34
On March 08 2011 02:12 vOdToasT wrote:
So because it is my opinon that StarCraft 2 is only a mediocre decent game, while StarCraft is awesome, you will punch me in the face?

very mature

I didn't choose my opinion... my opinion was a reaction to playing the games.


Whatever,most people don't justify the points they make,as for yourself I can understand your points but aloy of guys react to sc2 like the kt coach reacted to savior's stream.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 07 2011 17:27 GMT
#35
You are not pure, the SC2 side doesn't even want you!
I play SC2 because it's a fun game, I'd probably play BW if there was no SC2.
They can both be fun to watch or extremely boring to watch & I do watch quite alot( both).
I seriously don't understand taking any sides. Sometimes the veryvery newbie SC2 guys comments can be quite hilarious though, especially if they are about anything BW.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
TheAura
Profile Joined November 2010
96 Posts
March 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#36
So because it is my opinon that StarCraft 2 is only a mediocre decent game, while StarCraft is awesome, you will punch me in the face?

very mature

I didn't choose my opinion... my opinion was a reaction to playing the games


if this was in response to my post, i re-read mine and dont think i portrayed my thoughts correctly.

Yes clearly everyone has their opinion and thats fine, but it is when people belittle others of their opinions (for example sc2>bw) is when the elitist attitude is shown, and a punch to the face may be warranted.




see for me BW outside korea is dead,literally nothing,just mu(japanese) since TSL2 and since then whenever I heard someone say BW is dying I want to kick them in the face with my spiked shoes.


fair enough. Question : how do you think BW is going to fair over the next few years? Less pros playing and less up and coming new players?
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#37
wait, 52 hours? why are you staying up for so long...
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 17:34 GMT
#38
On March 08 2011 02:31 TheAura wrote:
fair enough. Question : how do you think BW is going to fair over the next few years? Less pros playing and less up and coming new players?

For foreigners, I imagine most of the SC2 players will switch back to BW within 2 years. In korea, there is still lots of up and coming new players.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
March 07 2011 17:37 GMT
#39
On March 08 2011 02:34 etheovermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 02:31 TheAura wrote:
fair enough. Question : how do you think BW is going to fair over the next few years? Less pros playing and less up and coming new players?

For foreigners, I imagine most of the SC2 players will switch back to BW within 2 years. In korea, there is still lots of up and coming new players.


Some pro SC2 players said they enjoyed BW better but they play SC2 because it is popular all around the world, but I doubt they'll switch back because they know they'll never win anything except for foreigners only tournaments .
TheAura
Profile Joined November 2010
96 Posts
March 07 2011 17:42 GMT
#40
I dont believe foreigners would return. First off they are pros and rely on this to make a living. Money oppurtunities are great in SC2 with it only looking to get much better, and they would surely be destroyed by koreans if they tried to return to BW after such a hiatus. Although if SC2 completely fails i guess its a possibility.
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