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On July 29 2011 11:41 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 11:38 Sawamura wrote:On July 29 2011 11:36 Blasterion wrote:On July 29 2011 11:31 Sawamura wrote:
Although with due respect caladblog in my opinion your example of saying we are michael jordan and they are kobe byrant let's put it to perspective basketball it self hasn't change in any way it is played did the hoops get bigger and has the stand become much shorter so you can slam dunk all day ? . I don't think so Sc2 is a much watered down version of bw much easier in term of mechanics very friendly to any users who are interacting the interface compared to the MICHEAL JORDAN in bw who are dealing with so much difficulties in handling micro and mechanic on the fly to pull of that moment that WOW in the game you have been seeing in any bw game . Sorry but it's hard for me to swallow a game that it's not even ready to receive our torch not when they haven't gone through what we had to win a single game in bw . Sc2 is not the successor that we are looking for. @ wassbix behold, your phantom elitist What I read Your game is watered down, it's easier, Brood war is harder there for you all suck. Did i expressly said that sc2 or all other suck I am merely stating the fact as it is hard for you to swallow it down ? Sc2 is easier down right in terms of mechanics compared to bw bring any sc2 scrubs to bw and try playing it against a pro let me see a 4 v 1 flash i don't think you can even graze him at all. Let me translate what you said into simpler terms SC2 is easier, your pros suck, our pros are gosu, Flash can own your pros any day. Oh yeah and all your pros are scrubs
Reasonably speaking it makes no sense to think so otherwise when one game has been out a year and the other 13 years + having an established commercial pro-gaming infrastructure for 10 of those years. Not sure what you are getting at here or why this makes you upset other than the tone in which it is stated, which is not something specific to any player group.
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Part of the reason that it's rather frustrating to talk to people who are mostly from SC2 is that most of them are clueless about BW. It's generally pretty useless to try to draw comparisons between SC2 and BW most of the time because people who started playing from only sc2 simply don't understand the concepts from BW. Likewise, there are some parts of sc2 that bw people may not understand. However, I do feel like there is a higher majority of people who like BW who also have tried out sc2 seriously than people who like sc2 and tried playing BW seriously.
In regards to why I feel like SC2 people might perceive BW people to be elitest, I think that partially just by the virtue that one is still playing BW instead of SC2 means that one has already decided that BW > SC2. In general, I'd hope that one made a choice based on whichever game they find more fun. This much is pretty simple to understand. However, the trouble becomes when one tries to explain why BW fans like BW over SC2. Naturally, comparisons are going to be drawn, and these same comparisons are going to be lost on SC2 people, and even if they aren't, I think it's natural to see it as elitist.
Then in regards to why SC2 fans like SC2 more, when trying to explain to BW fans, there's a lot of vague reasons given such as "it's still developing, give it more time", "It's really popular" are going to be lost on BW fans because truth to be told, because it's half an unsure bet, and half because it still seems really silly wasting time on a game that's perceived as really unstable(Think of it from a BW perspective, all these crazy patches, lack of consistent gameplay and wierd map/metagame shifts). Then of course sometimes reasons that are given that are naturally going to piss BW fans off like "graphics in BW are old, but SC2 ones are really good", or "BW is really old" because you know, BW has had these graphics for forever, and it's been around for a long time, yet BW fans still perceive much beauty in the game, so they see SC2 fans as massively ignorant.
As a massive fan of BW, I'd really like to more SC2 people try to play BW at a competitive level(iccup+ watch some vods and stuff). But when most don't even bother, it's really, really quite frustrating to talk to them(and yes, I have given my shot at SC2). I do see why SC2 fans view BW fans as such though, but I don't a solution.
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On July 29 2011 12:09 Kibibit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 11:59 ILOVEKITTENS wrote:On July 29 2011 11:39 Kibibit wrote:
Finally got to a computer to get to say this. The big problem is I think most people are confusing peoples general opinion on SC2 (I don't like it, no sir) with the rare, vitriolic BW-for-life guys that exist far more in strawman than in real life, but I can take part of the blame for Blasterion's woes and thoughts; He hangs around 4 massive trolls (including myself) who find it funny to watch SC2 fans squirm at our over-the-top elitism and fanatacism. At the end of the day, the people you see generally have little to nothing to say about SC2 when you or other enthusiastic SC2 fans are around. I'm not saying what we do is right by any means, I just want to clarify that the four of us do NOT represent the community as a whole, and the consistently banned status of two of them should tell you enough. Wow. Since, of course, the amount of times a user has been banned on this website is reflective of their ability to make coherent thoughts, opinions, and appropriate actions in real life. I guess I can't blame you for seeing people as extensions of their handles, but I thought I knew you better than that. It doesn't, and my statement never had any bearing on you on whether or not you are a coherent and capable person, and as someone who knows me, you should know I think nothing of the sort. My point still stands, if you were entirely standard, either everyone would be banned or nobody would. The original point of the entire statement is that everyone he's hung around for BW are actually disproportionately willing to take digs at the game openly. I'll lay it out right now, I don't do underhanded digs, I mean what I say quite literally to the word here. There is little to no content in that original sentence about what I think about you as a person. (addendum: at least in serious conversations)
Making excuses for others might seem like the mature thing to do, but I stand by my words and am always willing to discuss things logically with someone of the opposing viewpoint. If people take offense and don't speak up until there is a thread on TL about it, then that discussion is skipped and thus there is a lot less respect and understanding between two people. The part I found offensive was the connotation of "they're banned users, they don't know how to act," which doesn't really change if you say that you didn't say it. While perhaps true within the confines of how TL operates (and even here I was only banned once for anti-SC2 sentiments, when tensions were high in the "Elephant..." topic), I feel that this was inappropriate and uncalled for given the context of both this thread and our meetups. I think jpak made a typo when he meant to say "fans," btw, if that is what triggered this.
I have pretty much given up arguing about SC2 with anyone, most of my arguments against SC2 people nowadays arise because they think that I am trashing their game because I play Brood War, not because I am actually trashing their game. As was said earlier in this thread, to get mad at SC2 people for suggesting that BW die and its progamers move on, for saying that BW is strategically equal to SC2 right now... I will cut this list short here to basically say that it is the ignorant statements from both communities that should be causing issues, not the factually correct ones. Whether SC2, after all expansions are released and 10 years of game play, will be equal to BW right now is anyone's guess, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it lasted that long and got to that height. The fact that SC2, right now, in its infancy and incomplete form, has an inferior proscene to even the damaged BW one is what it is - a fact. Same can be said about the level of strategic development and mechanical prowess. It's a natural result of one game being much, much older than the other, and everyone who gets offended by someone saying these things needs to remember the age of each game.
This does not mean SC2 is not fun or is not a good game, it's just not what BW is now, and because of that SC2 people see BW people as elitists and BW people see SC2 people as ignorant fanboys. We will get along much better once we start separating fact from opinion, and educate people with uninformed opinions by using facts instead of banning or arguing with them. Opinions about which game is 'better' are as skewed as each person's background with gaming, level of competitiveness, and other preferences. I think it's mostly due to the testosterone-driven nature of RTS gaming that makes group A mad that group B called them casuals because their game requires 1/3rd the APM. High APM is something that is indeed not an intrinsic quality of a strategy game, but it does make it more challenging and time-consuming to master. Same applies for autosurround, MBS, automine, etc. The more shortcuts you take the shorter your journey is. Similar concept. This does not detract from the value of the game to some people, but it does to others. Some men like big tits, while others like big asses, and both can go on for days about why one is better than the other, but in the end your preference of game is yours only and no one can tell you what to like or not like. Don't get mad if they try to, because they are dumb.
Sorry for the rant.
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On July 29 2011 12:34 ILOVEKITTENS wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 12:09 Kibibit wrote:On July 29 2011 11:59 ILOVEKITTENS wrote:On July 29 2011 11:39 Kibibit wrote:
Finally got to a computer to get to say this. The big problem is I think most people are confusing peoples general opinion on SC2 (I don't like it, no sir) with the rare, vitriolic BW-for-life guys that exist far more in strawman than in real life, but I can take part of the blame for Blasterion's woes and thoughts; He hangs around 4 massive trolls (including myself) who find it funny to watch SC2 fans squirm at our over-the-top elitism and fanatacism. At the end of the day, the people you see generally have little to nothing to say about SC2 when you or other enthusiastic SC2 fans are around. I'm not saying what we do is right by any means, I just want to clarify that the four of us do NOT represent the community as a whole, and the consistently banned status of two of them should tell you enough. Wow. Since, of course, the amount of times a user has been banned on this website is reflective of their ability to make coherent thoughts, opinions, and appropriate actions in real life. I guess I can't blame you for seeing people as extensions of their handles, but I thought I knew you better than that. It doesn't, and my statement never had any bearing on you on whether or not you are a coherent and capable person, and as someone who knows me, you should know I think nothing of the sort. My point still stands, if you were entirely standard, either everyone would be banned or nobody would. The original point of the entire statement is that everyone he's hung around for BW are actually disproportionately willing to take digs at the game openly. I'll lay it out right now, I don't do underhanded digs, I mean what I say quite literally to the word here. There is little to no content in that original sentence about what I think about you as a person. (addendum: at least in serious conversations) Making excuses for others might seem like the mature thing to do, but I stand by my words and am always willing to discuss things logically with someone of the opposing viewpoint. If people take offense and don't speak up until there is a thread on TL about it, then that discussion is skipped and thus there is a lot less respect and understanding between two people. The part I found offensive was the connotation of "they're banned users, they don't know how to act," which doesn't really change if you say that you didn't say it. While perhaps true within the confines of how TL operates (and even here I was only banned once for anti-SC2 sentiments, when tensions were high in the "Elephant..." topic), I feel that this was inappropriate and uncalled for given the context of both this thread and our meetups. I think jpak made a typo when he meant to say "fans," btw, if that is what triggered this. I have pretty much given up arguing about SC2 with anyone, most of my arguments against SC2 people nowadays arise because they think that I am trashing their game because I play Brood War, not because I am actually trashing their game. As was said earlier in this thread, to get mad at SC2 people for suggesting that BW die and its progamers move on, for saying that BW is strategically equal to SC2 right now... I will cut this list short here to basically say that it is the ignorant statements from both communities that should be causing issues, not the factually correct ones. Whether SC2, after all expansions are released and 10 years of game play, will be equal to BW right now is anyone's guess, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it lasted that long and got to that height. The fact that SC2, right now, in its infancy and incomplete form, has an inferior proscene to even the damaged BW one is what it is - a fact. Same can be said about the level of strategic development and mechanical prowess. It's a natural result of one game being much, much older than the other, and everyone who gets offended by someone saying these things needs to remember the age of each game. This does not mean SC2 is not fun or is not a good game, it's just not what BW is now, and because of that SC2 people see BW people as elitists and BW people see SC2 people as ignorant fanboys. We will get along much better once we start separating fact from opinion, and educate people with uninformed opinions by using facts instead of banning or arguing with them. Opinions about which game is 'better' is as skewed as each person's background with gaming, level of competitiveness, and other preferences. I think it's mostly due to the testosterone-driven nature of RTS gaming that makes group A mad that group B called them casuals because their game requires 1/3rd the APM. High APM is something that is indeed not an intrinsic quality of a strategy game, but it does make it more challenging and time-consuming to master. Same applies for autosurround, MBS, automine, etc. The more shortcuts you take the shorter your journey is. Similar concept. This does not detract from the value of the game to some people, but it does to others. Some men like big tits, while others like big asses, and both can go on for days about why one is better than the other, but in the end your preference of game is yours only and no one can tell you what to like or not like. Don't get mad if they try to, because they are dumb. Sorry for the rant.
It's cool. I'm not someone who knows when not to say they're wrong, and upon a bit further thought, I was. The general point behind my posts still stands, but I'll definitely retract the statement, it's a bit out of line in retrospect. That said, I still don't appreciate someone who knows me reasonably well attaching intentions to me that It's very clear I would never have. Just like the fact that what I mean has no bearing on how people take it, doesn't mean how people take it has any bearing on what I mean.
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OP, there is a reason why most of the old BW posters got a REPORT button, you know.
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On July 29 2011 10:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
SC2 fans think that SC2>>>>> BW. thus in return, all we can do is anti troll them. seriously, without the popularity of BW, there would be no SC2. just putting that out there.
I don't know, but this to me is the whole us vs them. Seriously, SC2 fandom is made up of a lot of BW fans. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wholly agree with zatic's 'one community' sentiment as I find myself in both camps. I prefer to play BW and follow BW proleagues on and off (I really wish there was consistent English commentary like the old GOMTV/ SC2GG days), but diligently follow SC2. A good portion of foreign players are BW fans- listen to Day9 talk nostalgic about BW. For most foreigners it hasn't be come an either/or.
I agree there are some very insensitive SC2 trolls that don't know the history of BW. But the BW-onlyists have become very sensitive to any mention of SC2. And quite honestly, I do see the "I minimize SC2 forums, har, har, har" as a form of passive-aggression. The actual act no. That's a customization and preference choice. But very few conversations go by without BW-onlyists feeling compelled to demonstrate their disdain for all thing SC2 by parading around this fact as though increasing their BW cred. But here's the kicker. BW-onlyists are not the only BW fans. Fans of SC2 have not necessarily 'moved on.' zatic I can only imagine is still a BW fan. However, there is just a fairly vocal culture of posters within the BW threads that delights in passive-aggressive pokes at SC2 or expressing their morale outrage at the latest travesty of some 12 year old SC2 troll.
Oh, and I do find it frustrating when I try and recruit another LAN member for BW nerd night and find they dislike it due to graphics!!! Come on!
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On July 29 2011 13:34 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 10:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
SC2 fans think that SC2>>>>> BW. thus in return, all we can do is anti troll them. seriously, without the popularity of BW, there would be no SC2. just putting that out there. I don't know, but this to me is the whole us vs them. Seriously, SC2 fandom is made up of a lot of BW fans. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wholly agree with zatic's 'one community' sentiment as I find myself in both camps. I prefer to play BW and follow BW proleagues on and off (I really wish there was consistent English commentary like the old GOMTV/ SC2GG days), but diligently follow SC2. A good portion of foreign players are BW fans- listen to Day9 talk nostalgic about BW. For most foreigners it hasn't be come an either/or. I agree there are some very insensitive SC2 trolls that don't know the history of BW. But the BW-onlyists have become very sensitive to any mention of SC2. And quite honestly, I do see the "I minimize SC2 forums, har, har, har" as a form of passive-aggression. The actual act no. That's a customization and preference choice. But very few conversations go by without BW-onlyists feeling compelled to demonstrate their disdain for all thing SC2 by parading around this fact as though increasing their BW cred. But here's the kicker. BW-onlyists are not the only BW fans. Fans of SC2 have not necessarily 'moved on.' zatic I can only imagine is still a BW fan. However, there is just a fairly vocal culture of posters within the BW threads that delights in passive-aggressive pokes at SC2 or expressing their morale outrage at the latest travesty of some 12 year old SC2 troll. Oh, and I do find it frustrating when I try and recruit another LAN member for BW nerd night and find they dislike it due to graphics!!! Come on!
I don't get it why do you have to response with such a wall of text to a simple answer by flash ftw sigh.
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On July 29 2011 13:34 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 10:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
SC2 fans think that SC2>>>>> BW. thus in return, all we can do is anti troll them. seriously, without the popularity of BW, there would be no SC2. just putting that out there. I don't know, but this to me is the whole us vs them. Seriously, SC2 fandom is made up of a lot of BW fans. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wholly agree with zatic's 'one community' sentiment as I find myself in both camps. I prefer to play BW and follow BW proleagues on and off (I really wish there was consistent English commentary like the old GOMTV/ SC2GG days), but diligently follow SC2. A good portion of foreign players are BW fans- listen to Day9 talk nostalgic about BW. For most foreigners it hasn't be come an either/or. I agree there are some very insensitive SC2 trolls that don't know the history of BW. But the BW-onlyists have become very sensitive to any mention of SC2. And quite honestly, I do see the "I minimize SC2 forums, har, har, har" as a form of passive-aggression. The actual act no. That's a customization and preference choice. But very few conversations go by without BW-onlyists feeling compelled to demonstrate their disdain for all thing SC2 by parading around this fact as though increasing their BW cred. But here's the kicker. BW-onlyists are not the only BW fans. Fans of SC2 have not necessarily 'moved on.' zatic I can only imagine is still a BW fan. However, there is just a fairly vocal culture of posters within the BW threads that delights in passive-aggressive pokes at SC2 or expressing their morale outrage at the latest travesty of some 12 year old SC2 troll. Oh, and I do find it frustrating when I try and recruit another LAN member for BW nerd night and find they dislike it due to graphics!!! Come on!
Fine. I hate sc2... every aspect of it, and everything that reminds me of it. There... I said it.
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If that invalidates my entire line of reasoning, I'll edit it out. But I could quote quite a few passive-aggressive examples in this thread I just happened to hone into that particular one when I was rereading the thread. I'll stand by actual 'wall of text' though.
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On July 29 2011 13:38 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 13:34 Falling wrote:On July 29 2011 10:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
SC2 fans think that SC2>>>>> BW. thus in return, all we can do is anti troll them. seriously, without the popularity of BW, there would be no SC2. just putting that out there. I don't know, but this to me is the whole us vs them. Seriously, SC2 fandom is made up of a lot of BW fans. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wholly agree with zatic's 'one community' sentiment as I find myself in both camps. I prefer to play BW and follow BW proleagues on and off (I really wish there was consistent English commentary like the old GOMTV/ SC2GG days), but diligently follow SC2. A good portion of foreign players are BW fans- listen to Day9 talk nostalgic about BW. For most foreigners it hasn't be come an either/or. I agree there are some very insensitive SC2 trolls that don't know the history of BW. But the BW-onlyists have become very sensitive to any mention of SC2. And quite honestly, I do see the "I minimize SC2 forums, har, har, har" as a form of passive-aggression. The actual act no. That's a customization and preference choice. But very few conversations go by without BW-onlyists feeling compelled to demonstrate their disdain for all thing SC2 by parading around this fact as though increasing their BW cred. But here's the kicker. BW-onlyists are not the only BW fans. Fans of SC2 have not necessarily 'moved on.' zatic I can only imagine is still a BW fan. However, there is just a fairly vocal culture of posters within the BW threads that delights in passive-aggressive pokes at SC2 or expressing their morale outrage at the latest travesty of some 12 year old SC2 troll. Oh, and I do find it frustrating when I try and recruit another LAN member for BW nerd night and find they dislike it due to graphics!!! Come on! I don't get it why do you have to response with such a wall of text to a simple answer by flash ftw sigh.
Because some people see the irony in showing BW elitism or fanboyism in a thread that is largely dedicated to dispelling the notion that most BW players are of that nature, or at least providing an area for people to discuss the fact that it is morally and intellectually weak to harbor such aggressive and secular beliefs. This is what his post managed to grasp, that I think "flash ftw" would have probably not encompassed. Although, this is essentially what you posted, except with judgment of a decent post wrapped around it.
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On July 29 2011 13:46 Blunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 13:38 Sawamura wrote:On July 29 2011 13:34 Falling wrote:On July 29 2011 10:59 FlaShFTW wrote:
SC2 fans think that SC2>>>>> BW. thus in return, all we can do is anti troll them. seriously, without the popularity of BW, there would be no SC2. just putting that out there. I don't know, but this to me is the whole us vs them. Seriously, SC2 fandom is made up of a lot of BW fans. The two are not mutually exclusive. I wholly agree with zatic's 'one community' sentiment as I find myself in both camps. I prefer to play BW and follow BW proleagues on and off (I really wish there was consistent English commentary like the old GOMTV/ SC2GG days), but diligently follow SC2. A good portion of foreign players are BW fans- listen to Day9 talk nostalgic about BW. For most foreigners it hasn't be come an either/or. I agree there are some very insensitive SC2 trolls that don't know the history of BW. But the BW-onlyists have become very sensitive to any mention of SC2. And quite honestly, I do see the "I minimize SC2 forums, har, har, har" as a form of passive-aggression. The actual act no. That's a customization and preference choice. But very few conversations go by without BW-onlyists feeling compelled to demonstrate their disdain for all thing SC2 by parading around this fact as though increasing their BW cred. But here's the kicker. BW-onlyists are not the only BW fans. Fans of SC2 have not necessarily 'moved on.' zatic I can only imagine is still a BW fan. However, there is just a fairly vocal culture of posters within the BW threads that delights in passive-aggressive pokes at SC2 or expressing their morale outrage at the latest travesty of some 12 year old SC2 troll. Oh, and I do find it frustrating when I try and recruit another LAN member for BW nerd night and find they dislike it due to graphics!!! Come on! I don't get it why do you have to response with such a wall of text to a simple answer by flash ftw sigh. Because some people see the irony in showing BW elitism or fanboyism in a thread that is largely dedicated to dispelling the notion that most BW players are of that nature, or at least providing an area for people to discuss the fact that it is morally and intellectually weak to harbor such aggressive and secular beliefs. This is what his post managed to grasp, that I think "flash ftw" would have probably not encompassed. Although, this is essentially what you posted, except with judgment of a decent post wrapped around it.
judgement of decent post ? i just don't feel like tearing it apart imo ....
First he categorized broodwar player to onlyist /loyalist/elitist and assume everyone is like that because after all ( we all hate sc2 and never even bother to try it out ) than talks about aggressiveness which in my opinion are pretty justified they came on put up a big parade about sc2 is the future for us bw fan's are in a state of probably losing years of history and prestige all wash down the drain and yet SOME people are not sensitive about it . It is definitely not acceptable that such things are allowed . I don't like it I gave a go at sc2 my terran units do not feel terran any more the powerful vultures are gone my siege tank are getting friendlier with my enemy units .
The graphics looks as if i am playing warcraft in space 3d does not even make a happy person . I seriously tried and yet I cannot stand it . My friends some of them made the transition from bw -> sc2 the reason was they have nothing to learn ? That's totally bull shit bw has never stop evolving and it will not at this current stage . I don't like the matter of fact that people are discrediting broodwar and some of the sc2 players didn't even try to play bw at all and even they do probably BGH only and that call it a piece of trash . Bw has been a part of my child hood and until now still something very dearly for me . I won't allow people trash talk it as though it's some archaic bull shit that should be stomp to allow the majority to surpass it .
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I stopped following BW ever since SC2 came out.
Main reason is that Terran ruined BW for me. I mean all this BS that Flash is a bownja and Jaedong is not, has anyone ever looked at what races they played?
I personally cbf with BW unless Terran gets a nerf.
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On July 29 2011 13:52 Highways wrote:
I stopped following BW ever since SC2 came out.
Main reason is that Terran ruined BW for me. I mean all this BS that Flash is a bownja and Jaedong is not, has anyone ever looked at what races they played?
I personally cbf with BW unless Terran gets a nerf.
LMAO
Well if you love bitching about imbalance on the forums... sc2 is the game for u lol
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On July 29 2011 13:54 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 13:52 Highways wrote:
I stopped following BW ever since SC2 came out.
Main reason is that Terran ruined BW for me. I mean all this BS that Flash is a bownja and Jaedong is not, has anyone ever looked at what races they played?
I personally cbf with BW unless Terran gets a nerf. LMAO Well if you love bitching about imbalance on the forums... sc2 is the game for u lol
Typical QQ from a player who doesn't even bother to fight the imbalance without determination and skill .
User was temp banned for this post.
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On July 29 2011 13:52 Highways wrote:
I stopped following BW ever since SC2 came out.
Main reason is that Terran ruined BW for me. I mean all this BS that Flash is a bownja and Jaedong is not, has anyone ever looked at what races they played?
I personally cbf with BW unless Terran gets a nerf.
Let us all direct our hate elsewhere! Flash is an amazing player, no matter how you spin it. I don't even like him, in fact I always hope he loses. But that's because he's too good. Now, if you want to actually see a balance discussion, read this and respond to me in PMs if you have logical counterpoints:
+ Show Spoiler + This is the most balanced RTS of all time. WarCraft 2 only had 3? unique units per race (the others were identical), unique spells, and 1 unique upgrade. It was far less balanced than BW. If there are imbalances, they would have been pronounced in the proscene, and here is what they are: P > T > Z > P. This seems pretty balanced to me, and you can look it up yourself using TLPD or the search function. The fact that Terran users have won the most SLs is a testament to their qualities as players, not because of their racial advantage. It's their ability to control the race to its maximum potential, not the race itself.
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On July 29 2011 13:42 puppykiller wrote:
Fine. I hate sc2... every aspect of it, and everything that reminds me of it. There... I said it.
Was it cathartic?
But I do think an underlying hate for SC2 for some posters is part of the equation. Not just SC2 trolls. If mere mentions of SC2 riles up BW-onlyists, then that's kinda their cross to bear and in my opinion makes our forum the poorer. But there it is.
Oh, and lol at terran imba qq. Terran's not imba, Flash is imba  (And I desperately want him to lose- can you tell from my team tag?)
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On July 29 2011 14:05 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 13:42 puppykiller wrote:
Fine. I hate sc2... every aspect of it, and everything that reminds me of it. There... I said it. Was it cathartic? But I do think an underlying hate for SC2 for some posters is part of the equation. Not just SC2 trolls. If mere mentions of SC2 riles up BW-onlyists, then that's kinda their cross to bear and in my opinion makes our forum the poorer. But there it is. Oh, and lol at terran imba qq. Terran's not imba, Flash is imba (And I desperately want him to lose- can you tell from my team tag?)
Yeah no way in hell Fantasy can stand against flash in a TvT..... Bisu is... I don't think so....
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On July 29 2011 14:11 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 14:05 Falling wrote:On July 29 2011 13:42 puppykiller wrote:
Fine. I hate sc2... every aspect of it, and everything that reminds me of it. There... I said it. Was it cathartic? But I do think an underlying hate for SC2 for some posters is part of the equation. Not just SC2 trolls. If mere mentions of SC2 riles up BW-onlyists, then that's kinda their cross to bear and in my opinion makes our forum the poorer. But there it is. Oh, and lol at terran imba qq. Terran's not imba, Flash is imba (And I desperately want him to lose- can you tell from my team tag?) Yeah no way in hell Fantasy can stand against flash in a TvT..... Bisu is... I don't think so....
You might wanna take a look at Big File MSL Semi-final.
Fantasy can be scary when he is prepared.
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On July 29 2011 13:54 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 13:52 Highways wrote:
I stopped following BW ever since SC2 came out.
Main reason is that Terran ruined BW for me. I mean all this BS that Flash is a bownja and Jaedong is not, has anyone ever looked at what races they played?
I personally cbf with BW unless Terran gets a nerf. LMAO Well if you love bitching about imbalance on the forums... sc2 is the game for u lol
If someone can't handle BW because of balance there would like .... zero RTS game you'd able to handle.
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Well Bisu did snipe him that one Team League game. But yeah, as much as I'm a Bisu fan, I get scared everytime he goes carrier vT
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