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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
July 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#781
Screw this, I have no idea what is happening any more. Is this sensationalism? Is it truth? I'm gonna do what we all should be doing. I'm gonna play BroodWar, and it's gonna be awesome.
EleGant[AoV]
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
July 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#782
WTFFFF I always liked the MBCGame commentators better than the OGN ones
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
July 27 2011 11:17 GMT
#783
wow, this fucking sucks, i actually loved MBCGame for all it did, there's even some MBC places here in the states and I always think HEY! MBCGame or MBCGame Hero! when I see it.

This is truly a sad sad day =(

no more MSL either... what the fuck.... guess that means no more golden badge =(
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
July 27 2011 11:18 GMT
#784
wow.... im speechless
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:22:21
July 27 2011 11:20 GMT
#785
On July 27 2011 19:48 obsKura wrote:
Sad news.

Hm, do you guys also see a trend that SC goes back to the internet and backs away from TV? If this is the case maybe it might even be good for SC as the internet offers so much more options to build a community around the game and provide professional players with additonal sources to earn money (coaching, streaming...).

If I remember correctly a few weeks ago in one of the bigger shows (OMG.tv or SotG) somebody alread discussed that maybe SC/eSports does not need the TV to be successful or "mainstream".

Perhaps in other countries, but in Korea eSports on TV works a bit differently.

BW is broadcasted on 2 public game channels, so BW on TV pulls in more viewers than BW on the Internet does. How? People who never heard of eSports typically don't take the time to involve themselves with it/look up information on it since they are uninterested. However, if you have BW on public TV, while someone is channel surfing, they may accidentally stumble upon a live broadcast of a BW match happening and it may capture their interest. Now on the Internet, you may accidentally stumble across a BW video or click on something BW-related out of boredom as well, but the odds of getting a new viewer from TV is greater than getting one from the Internet.

This is one of the various ways how BW gains more viewers and has become mainstream in Korea, and some progamers have stated in interviews that the reason they became a progamer is because of seeing Starcraft on TV when they were little. Thanks to the help of public television, BW has become widely successful and mainstream in Korea. Now people having less access to the Internet back in the day did play a large role in BW's success in Korea, but people in Korea usually prefer sitting in front of the TV with their family and enjoying a meal together while watching some live Starcraft instead of sitting alone and watching Starcraft on their computer.

Tl;dr: eSports, in Korea, needs the help of TV viewers in order to be successful. This is one of the major reasons why SC2 is not as popular as BW right now in Korea.
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 27 2011 11:20 GMT
#786
On July 27 2011 20:04 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:00 Kiyo. wrote:
On July 27 2011 19:53 Mannerheim wrote:
Online streaming technology will still need several years to be become a stable, "complete" product like TV is. There are still a lot of glitches, uncertainties and problems of scale, it's not going to replace TV any time soon.


It already is starting to replace TV in some parts of the world. Look at the SC2 international scene(which is larger than any other e-sport right now), which is thriving without being on TV(except for Anibox in Korea). It definitely is possible for bw to go back to an internet thing, but I think it'd be harder as it's not as popular internationally as some other e-sports that use the internet.


How much have SC2 streams peaked at so far? 100k? That's really fucking small compared to TV viewerships. Could a stream handle 1 million concurrent viewers without acting up? Does anyone even know? Those are the uncertainties I'm talking about.


The royal wedding had millions and millions of viewers and did not stutter even once.

Streaming is ready for mainstream.
twitch.tv/medrea
Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
July 27 2011 11:21 GMT
#787
Woke up from a nightmare into another.

It's ok...I'm probably still dreaming...right guys?...right?
+ Show Spoiler +
hold me ;_;
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 27 2011 11:21 GMT
#788
On July 27 2011 20:13 EaryKing wrote:
why? Broodwar is still so popular in Korea, why>?

Because its a great game?
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 27 2011 11:22 GMT
#789
On July 27 2011 20:21 Wubbles wrote:
Woke up from a nightmare into another.

It's ok...I'm probably still dreaming...right guys?...right?
+ Show Spoiler +
hold me ;_;


It is true T_T
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 27 2011 11:23 GMT
#790
On July 27 2011 20:21 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:13 EaryKing wrote:
why? Broodwar is still so popular in Korea, why>?

Because its a great game sport?

WriterXiao8~~
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
July 27 2011 11:24 GMT
#791
This thread ruined my day but the awesomeness of the G20 video salvaged it a little, thanks for posting it.
vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
July 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#792
Cant believe this is happening, damn sad news
Oh, I'm chasing this guy. [Dodd shoots at Leonard] No... he's chasing me.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
July 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#793
Of all the alternatives they could broadcast they choose music? WTF O_o
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timestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada73 Posts
July 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#794
Thats heavy stuff...
"whoop whoop whoop whoop" - Dr. Zoidberg
zimms
Profile Joined November 2009
Austria561 Posts
July 27 2011 11:26 GMT
#795
Nooo...
Why T_T

Last finals better be epic.
Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
July 27 2011 11:27 GMT
#796
On July 27 2011 20:21 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:13 EaryKing wrote:
why? Broodwar is still so popular in Korea, why>?

Because its a great game?

I think he means why would MBC do this since BW is still so popular.
Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:29:43
July 27 2011 11:29 GMT
#797
On July 27 2011 20:20 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:04 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:00 Kiyo. wrote:
On July 27 2011 19:53 Mannerheim wrote:
Online streaming technology will still need several years to be become a stable, "complete" product like TV is. There are still a lot of glitches, uncertainties and problems of scale, it's not going to replace TV any time soon.


It already is starting to replace TV in some parts of the world. Look at the SC2 international scene(which is larger than any other e-sport right now), which is thriving without being on TV(except for Anibox in Korea). It definitely is possible for bw to go back to an internet thing, but I think it'd be harder as it's not as popular internationally as some other e-sports that use the internet.


How much have SC2 streams peaked at so far? 100k? That's really fucking small compared to TV viewerships. Could a stream handle 1 million concurrent viewers without acting up? Does anyone even know? Those are the uncertainties I'm talking about.


The royal wedding had millions and millions of viewers and did not stutter even once.

Streaming is ready for mainstream.


By "millions and millions" you mean just above a million? Also that was one event, with absolutely massive resources behind it. That hardly proves streaming is ready for "mainstream" on a large scale.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 11:30:30
July 27 2011 11:30 GMT
#798
.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
July 27 2011 11:32 GMT
#799
I can't help but remember the conspiracy theory section of this post by Waxangel from an old OSL thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=238767#feature

It's rather unfortunate that MBCGame is goin down the tubes =0\
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 27 2011 11:32 GMT
#800
On July 27 2011 20:29 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 20:20 Medrea wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:04 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 27 2011 20:00 Kiyo. wrote:
On July 27 2011 19:53 Mannerheim wrote:
Online streaming technology will still need several years to be become a stable, "complete" product like TV is. There are still a lot of glitches, uncertainties and problems of scale, it's not going to replace TV any time soon.


It already is starting to replace TV in some parts of the world. Look at the SC2 international scene(which is larger than any other e-sport right now), which is thriving without being on TV(except for Anibox in Korea). It definitely is possible for bw to go back to an internet thing, but I think it'd be harder as it's not as popular internationally as some other e-sports that use the internet.


How much have SC2 streams peaked at so far? 100k? That's really fucking small compared to TV viewerships. Could a stream handle 1 million concurrent viewers without acting up? Does anyone even know? Those are the uncertainties I'm talking about.


The royal wedding had millions and millions of viewers and did not stutter even once.

Streaming is ready for mainstream.


By "millions and millions" you mean just above a million? Also that was one event, with absolutely massive resources behind it. That hardly proves streaming is ready for "mainstream" on a large scale.


Oh was that it? I thought it was something like 22 million. Either way. Peer 2 Peer streaming is the future of TV in general I believe. It's good because it means you don't need a football field of transmission equipment to produce something really well.

Then again, having said football field of dishes is always nice.
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