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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 20:56:25
July 07 2011 21:20 GMT
#1
Updated September 2011, after the conclusion of the 2011 Jin Air OSL. Starting at this post. This thread will be updated after every OSL and MSL.

Thread purpose: Winners are the most well remembered, but both finalists usually get fame. Semi-final appearances are also usually well-documented as deep pushes. But what about the forgotten Ro8 and Ro16 appearances? These players surpass the vast majority of their peers, but are not always remembered. This thread is noting consistently successful players in the two major individual leagues. That being said, first...

Let's roll with basics that many people remember:

Most MSL+OSL Wins
1.(T)NaDa 6
1.(T)Flash 6
+ Show Spoiler +
3.(Z)Jaedong 5
3.(T)iloveoov 5
5.(Z)sAviOr 4
6.(T)BoxeR 3
6.(Z)July 3
6.(P)Bisu 3
9.(P)GARIMTO 2
9.(P)Nal_rA 2


Most OSL+MSL Final Appearances
Name_Finals_Golds_Silvers
1.(T)NaDa 10 6 4
+ Show Spoiler +
2.(Z)Jaedong 9 5 4
3.(T)Flash 8 6 2
4.(T)BoxeR 7 3 4
5.(Z)sAviOr 6 4 2
6.(T)iloveoov 5 5 0
7.(Z)July 5 3 2
8.(P)Stork 5 1 4
9.(Z)YellOw 5 0 5
10.(P)Bisu 4 3 1
11.(P)Nal_rA 4 2 2
12.(P)Reach 4 1 3
12.(Z)ChoJJa 4 1 3
12.(T)Fantasy 4 1 3
13.(P)JangBi 3 1 2


Most OSL+MSL Semi-final (Ro4) Appearances
1.(Z)Jaedong 12
+ Show Spoiler +
2.(T)NaDa 11
3.(Z)YellOw 10
3.(T)Flash 10
5.(T)BoxeR 9
5.(T)iloveoov 9
7.(Z)ChoJJa 8
7.(P)Nal_rA 8
7.(P)Stork 8
10.(Z)sAviOr 7
10.(P)Bisu 7
12.(P)Reach 6
12.(T)Fantasy 6
14.(T)Goodfriend 5
14.(Z)July 5


OSL Consistency:

Most OSL Ro8 Appearances
1.(T)BoxeR 10
1.(Z)YellOw 10
1.(P)Reach 10
+ Show Spoiler +
4.(T)Flash 9
5.(P)Stork 8
6.(T)NaDa 7
6.(Z)July 7
8.(T)XellOs 6
8.(Z)Jaedong 6
10.(T)iloveoov 5
11.(T)Goodfriend 5
11.(T)Iris 5
11.(T)Midas 5
11.(P)Bisu 5
11.(T)Fantasy 5
16.(T)Sync 4
16.(Z)ChoJJa 4
16.(Z)ZerO 4
19.(Z)sAviOr, (P)Rock and many others 3
(Z)Calm only has 2 in the OSL, fyi
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 20:18:28
July 07 2011 21:20 GMT
#2
Most OSL Ro16 Appearances
1.(P)Stork 15
+ Show Spoiler +
2.(T)BoxeR 13
3.(T)Flash 12
4.(Z)YellOw 11
4.(T)NaDa 11
4.(Z)July 11
7.(P)Reach 10
8.(P)Rock 9
8.(P)Bisu 9
10.(T)XellOs 8
10.(Z)GGPlay 8
10.(T)Fantasy 8
10.(Z)Jaedong 8
10.(T)Sea 8
15.(Z)ChoJJa 7
15.(Z)GoRush 7
15.(Z)JJu 7
15.(T)Goodfriend 7
15.(Z)YellOw[ArnC] 7
15.(T)Hwasin 7
21.(T)TheMarine 6
21.(P)Kingdom 6
21.(T)iloveoov 6
21.(T)Iris 6
21.(Z)H.O.T-Forever 6
26.(P)GARIMTO 5
26.(Z)JinNam 5
26.(Z)MuMyung 5
26.(T)Sync 5
26.(T)Casy 5
26.(Z)sAviOr 5
26.(T)Midas 5
26.(Z)Shine 5
34.(P)Kal, (Z)Calm and many others 4


MSL Consistency:

Most MSL Ro8 Appearances
1.(T)NaDa 11
+ Show Spoiler +
2.(Z)ChoJJa 8
2.(P)Nal_rA 8
2.(Z)sAviOr 8
2.(Z)Jaedong 8
6.(T)iloveoov 7
7.(T)BoxeR 6
7.(T)XellOs 6
7.(T)Flash 6
10.(P)Bisu 5
10.(P)Kal 5
10.(Z)Calm 5
13.(P)Zeus 4
13.(Z)YellOw 4
13.(P)Kingdom 4
13.(T)Hwasin 4
13.(P)Stork 4
13.(P)free 4
13.(T)Light 4
13.(Z)ZerO 4
21.(P)Reach and many others 3


Most MSL Ro16 Appearances
1.(T)NaDa 15
+ Show Spoiler +
2.(Z)ChoJJa 11
2.(T)XellOs 11
2.(P)Nal_rA 11
5.(T)Hwasin 10
5.(Z)Jaedong 10
7.(T)BoxeR 9
7.(T)iloveoov 9
7.(Z)sAviOr 9
10.(Z)YellOw 8
10.(T)Light 8
10.(T)Flash 8
13.(T)TheMarine 7
13.(P)Zeus 7
13.(Z)JJu 7
13.(P)Bisu 7
13.(P)Kal 7
13.(P)Stork 7
19.(T)Sync 6
19.(P)Reach 6
19.(P)Kingdom 6
19.(Z)July 6
19.(Z)Kwanro 6
19.(P)free 6
19.(T)fOrGG 6
19.(T)Midas 6
27.(T)ChRh 5
27.(Z)JinSu 5
27.(Z)Silver 5
27.(Z)GoRush 5
27.(T)Sea 5
27.(T)Canata 5
27.(P)JangBi 5
27.(Z)Calm 5
27.(Z)ZerO 5
36.(T)Mind and many others 4


Errors are possible, of course. If you catch any, let me know.

Random thoughts:
Poor Rock He made the OSL Ro16 so many times but never made a Ro4.
Savior wasn't much for the OSL.
iloveoov came, saw, and conquered. But his empire isn't very far stretching.
Stork has been in more finals than any other Protoss, yay Stork!

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Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
July 07 2011 21:24 GMT
#3
boxer yellow reach were sooo consistent
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:32:29
July 07 2011 21:27 GMT
#4
If you want to extrapolate further, Flash has only failed to qualify for either tournament once: Waaay back when in his first MSL prelims. Ever since then he has always made the tournament proper.
Remember Violet.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:42:18
July 07 2011 21:41 GMT
#5
Hehe, I really can't extrapolate further. There wasn't always an MSL Ro32, and the OSL has changed forms several times, with the Ro36 and ODT and whatnot. The MSL had a losers bracket for a while, so Ro8 = semi-finals in both brackets.

The only thing I am someone unsure of are the Ro8s for the 3rd and 4th KPGA tours (MSL before MSL name). I'm not sure if it would affect these rankings, but I only counted 6 players for the Ro8 in those tournies because I couldn't figure out if there was a proper Ro8 and 6 players seemed to stand out more.

Pepsi Twist KPGA 3rd:

NaDa
Reach
Boxer
ChRh
Yellow
Zeus

Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th:

NaDa
Chojja
Kos
Jinnam
Boxer
Zeus

If anyone thinks they can figure it out and correct my Ro8 for those two leagues that would be nice.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 21:56:59
July 07 2011 21:56 GMT
#6
On July 08 2011 06:24 haxard wrote:
boxer yellow reach were sooo consistent


Even more consistent than flash or especially jaedong [image loading]
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 07 2011 21:58 GMT
#7
Haha, not even close Vain. They had full careers that had league berths for up to 7 years. Flash and Jaedong haven't been around that long -- they're absolutely gonna pass them and they're gonna do it in less tries. But, old accomplishments are meant to be beaten by new players.
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 07 2011 22:12 GMT
#8
Jaedong and Flash really stand out considering how much shorter their careers have been compared to for instance Nada's.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
July 07 2011 22:19 GMT
#9
There's SO few protosses... and there happen to be no protoss bonjwas whyyy

protoss players work harder please!

Thanks for sharing, happy to see Boxer and Stork so high
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
July 07 2011 22:21 GMT
#10
NaDa's accomplishments stretch from his first MSL Ro8 appearance in 2001 to his last in 2009. That's quite a feat. Jaedong and Flash came onto the scene in 2006 and 2007, respectively. Barring injury, like if Flash's wrist becomes far worse, I'm sure both will surpass NaDa in everything I posted. Just when I made this thread last year NaDa was alone as the #1 in Golds and semi-finals, but he's not anymore. He'll at least have the MSL Ro16 record for at least another 1-2 years, but in time it may also fall.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
July 07 2011 22:22 GMT
#11
Nice statistics...

I totally forgot about Chojja, he was pretty consistent..but not so dominating as the rest
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 07 2011 22:23 GMT
#12
whoa, so many round of 16 appearances by Rock! Can't believe he wasn't able to sneak into a few quarters or even a semi.

Also, 5 OSL quarterfinals for (P)Bisu without a final to show for it
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8168 Posts
July 07 2011 22:31 GMT
#13
only 1 time fantasy made the OSL Ro8 and didnt advance to the finals (and that time he lost to JD in the semi-finals) :O
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
July 07 2011 22:50 GMT
#14
Gotta love Stork. <3
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-07 23:52:01
July 07 2011 23:49 GMT
#15
Number of times in offline qualifiers: 3(1 OSL and 2 MSL)
Flash. Don't think anyone else in Brood War history can be that consistent.
Got in to OSL on his first try and only his second for MSL I believe
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Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 08 2011 00:10 GMT
#16
Nada is the best kids don't you forget it :D
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 00:22:59
July 08 2011 00:22 GMT
#17
On July 08 2011 08:49 RainmanMP wrote:
Number of times in offline qualifiers: 3(1 OSL and 2 MSL)
Flash. Don't think anyone else in Brood War history can be that consistent.
Got in to OSL on his first try and only his second for MSL I believe


Flash is pretty nuts.

Including this current OSL, Flash and Stork have both been in the most recent 12 OSL Ro16s consecutively. I'm quite sure that is an OSL record shared by the two of them.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
July 08 2011 00:44 GMT
#18
y u do dis 2 me bisu?
So close, and yet so far
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
July 08 2011 00:51 GMT
#19
rofl reach: 10 OSL Ro16s, 10 OSL Ro8s. group stage king??
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 08 2011 00:53 GMT
#20
On July 08 2011 09:44 Assymptotic wrote:
y u do dis 2 me bisu?

Maybe he wants you to write proper english?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 08 2011 01:03 GMT
#21
Oov's 5-5-0 combo was monstrous.

Flash is very close behind with his 8-6-2
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Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
July 08 2011 01:36 GMT
#22
On July 08 2011 10:03 Cambium wrote:
Oov's 5-5-0 combo was monstrous.

Flash is very close behind with his 8-6-2


YellOw's 5-0-5

=(
AnyOne
Profile Joined January 2008
Chile547 Posts
July 08 2011 02:12 GMT
#23
great information to know about
ty for the work
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Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
July 08 2011 03:21 GMT
#24
On July 08 2011 09:53 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2011 09:44 Assymptotic wrote:
y u do dis 2 me bisu?

Maybe he wants you to write proper english?


I imagine he'd prefer Korean. Just speculation of course.
So close, and yet so far
Ultimate Weapon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States132 Posts
July 08 2011 03:35 GMT
#25
Flash is so solid. I just wish his health does not fail him now. Can't see him losing any time soon.
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Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
July 08 2011 03:36 GMT
#26
And my love for NaDa grows even more......
So much accomplishments <3

And to see my oldies, BoxeR, Reach, YellOw...... was the perfect package :D
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
July 08 2011 03:44 GMT
#27
Wow the old gods of starcraft are still in the top...
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
July 08 2011 04:10 GMT
#28
Stork is really an OSL guy, eh?
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
July 08 2011 04:21 GMT
#29
oov's 5 for 5 is deceptive. a player with silvers as well as that many golds is more impressive, imo.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
July 08 2011 04:22 GMT
#30
nada... forever consistent wherever he goes.
xd
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-08 04:44:53
July 08 2011 04:41 GMT
#31
In all of the stats, the races are evenly distributed... kinda. Protoss is so close to being on the same par.

edit: the numbering is off for finals appearances (last guy should be 14)
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 08 2011 04:56 GMT
#32
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
July 08 2011 05:34 GMT
#33
i take a look at oov's record

then yellow

then u lol
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lequinow
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada17 Posts
July 09 2011 01:58 GMT
#34
On July 08 2011 13:21 rift wrote:
oov's 5 for 5 is deceptive. a player with silvers as well as that many golds is more impressive, imo.


A guy who win everything he takes part in is quite impressive though. A silver only mean a failed gold.
opsayo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
591 Posts
July 09 2011 02:20 GMT
#35
No he's right, oov's 5 for 5 in finals is deceptive -

Counting semifinals (Ro4) he's 5-4 - considering those 4 losses in Ro4 netted him bronze at best.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 09 2011 02:24 GMT
#36
oov also dropped out in earlier stages of leagues many times, including prelims. So yes, while he's 5-0 in finals, he certainly did not "win everything he took part in".
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 20:57:38
September 18 2011 20:44 GMT
#37
Updated after the 2011 Jin Air OSL. The following players may or may not have moved up in the ranking (I only note a certain number of significant appearances):

OSL Ro16

(T)Fantasy (P)Stork (Z)Calm (Z)Modesty
(Z)n.Die_soO (Z)Shine (P)JangBi (Z)Jaedong
(T)HiyA (T)Flash (T)BaBy (Z)hyvaa
(T)Sea (Z)Hydra (Z)Killer (Z)Hyuk

OSL Ro8

(T)Fantasy (Z)n.Die_soO
(Z)Hyuk (Z)Killer
(Z)Hydra (P)JangBi
(Z)Modesty (T)Flash

Semi-finals
(T)Fantasy (Z)n.Die_soO
(Z)Hydra (P)JangBi

Finals
+ Show Spoiler +
(T)Fantasy with another silver
(P)JangBi with his first gold
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
September 18 2011 20:53 GMT
#38
lol second spoiler fail :D

i understand you guys are under the impression about the OSL finals' epicness, but don't spoil... =___=
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Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 21:02:36
September 18 2011 20:55 GMT
#39
This thread being updated is a spoiler that the OSL ended, nothing more. I said I'd update it at the conclusion of every OSL (and MSL if it continues).

Just in case, I'll post the results in the new 2011 Jin Air OSL post in spoilers. But I have faith in my fellow man that no one would click a thread with "OSL" in the title if they haven't seen the most recent OSL finals.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
September 18 2011 23:19 GMT
#40
lol Oov is 5-0 in finals, YellOw 0-5 :D
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
September 18 2011 23:26 GMT
#41
Oov is famous for "5 finals 5 golds"
I've never realized how short flash's career has been. I feel like he is a veteran, but he is almost the youngest player out there, you know, minus baby.
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