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RAPiDCasting
Korea (South)594 Posts
1: MBCGameHero and OnGameNet Start their own SC2 Tournaments 2: They have regular Korean Tournaments, with free VODs (gogo nevake  )3: GSL. Gets. Raped. I mean, just look at the production values for the Existing SC:BW Starleagues right now. Ridiculously good. I am so happy for eSports. I think the best thing Blizzard can do is let it run free outside of GOM. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:21 eight.BiT wrote: Looking at this video since I can't find any dates on google. Says 1.13 was patched 5 different times in 2005. and then 2006 the ladder died.  Not balance patches. Mostly bugs / exploits. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:21 eight.BiT wrote: Looking at this video since I can't find any dates on google. Says 1.13 was patched 5 different times in 2005. and then 2006 the ladder died. It is true that BW was patched more, however Patch 1.08 is the last balance patch. This link will be of use for you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Patches | ||
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eight.BiT
United States240 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:26 Kipsate wrote: It is true that BW was patched more, however Patch 1.08 is the last balance patch. This link will be of use for you: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Patches ty<3 | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
so glad | ||
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ilbh
Brazil1606 Posts
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
I'm very confused about why people think that a possible end to the IP rights dispute that would allow OGN/MBC to finally broadcast legally would mean progamers should switch to SC2. If anything it will strengthen people's resolve that BW will be the RTS game in Korea. I just realized that I hope this means BW can return in WCG. Definitely not this year, but in the future. That would be great. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:35 thoradycus wrote: Now that blizz cant "artificially" end BW, i hope this gives more incentive and push to improve upon SC2. I somehow doubt lawyers were working on balance patches. | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3134 Posts
BW vs SC2 debates just make me angry. Soooooo much ignorance on both sides. BW is definitely more popular in Korea than SC2 at the moment, though SC2 seems to have a very healthy niche scene there and is growing rapidly. BW requires lots of skill, is much more developed as an e-sport than SC2 at the moment, and is a good game. SC2 requires lots of skill, is developing at an exponential rate, and is a good game. So sayeth we all. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6283 Posts
anyway nice to see it's getting solved . | ||
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Tomfour
United States173 Posts
Personally, I hope they don't broadcast any SC2, leave it to Gom, because they would make SC have a little bit more competition and could possibly be the start of it being phased out a little bit in Korea. | ||
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
YES so glad it's finally settled. No argument there I hope KeSPA doesn't ever broadcast or promote SC2 though, they will regret it. What they end up doing is up to them, however they can't badmouth any Blizzard products or future endevours. Which mostly means now that they can't badmouth GOM or HotS, which to Blizzard is just as good as them promoting SC2. "Interviewer: What do you think of HotS? KeSPA: That is a Blizzard product... No comment." I don't think anyone I've ever come across who watches and understands both BW and SC2 will ever say that the excitement SC2 brings about is anything worth comparing to BW's. That's probably also the same reason why some SC2ers, especially the very young ones make ridiculously uninformed comments about BW. I can't comment on what younger SC2ers say, but I enjoy both scenes and while I'm not sure what gets me more excited, I will say it's much easier to get excited about a good match I can watch live without waking up at 5am, in english, featuring international players. The BW scene is just never ever going to deliver in that department. So while I have tons of fun watching BW, I do get more excited when news of a good SC2 match is coming. [ | ||
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Chimpalimp
United States1135 Posts
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
And you are just blind if you think that BW progamers will transition in the near future. With Blizzard controlling the game flow of SC2, with 2 more expansions to come and how Blizzard has bombarded SC2 with it's patching, I don't think KeSPA will be happy with this if ever they are going to have a department for SC2. It's just too volatile. Blizzard have never truly balanced BW. The maps, the players' skills, time and money and drama balanced the game for the players and for the fans watching. But this is just my 2 cents. You can have your opinions on this matter but to me, Blizzard knew they were in the short end of the stick with one. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On May 09 2011 22:19 Milkis wrote: I think it will. As the beta started, I called SC2 the game (in sense of defining RTS / most prestigious esports title) for the then-next (and now-current) decade.no offence but in due time the SC2 bubble will die and everything you thought was stable will disappear and the SC2 scene will be only a shell of what is around now. let me know if sc2 lasts 10 years, because it wont. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:41 Furycrab wrote: No argument there What they end up doing is up to them, however they can't badmouth any Blizzard products or future endevours. Which mostly means now that they can't badmouth GOM or HotS, which to Blizzard is just as good as them promoting SC2. "Interviewer: What do you think of HotS? KeSPA: That is a Blizzard product... No comment." I can't comment on what younger SC2ers say, but I enjoy both scenes and while I'm not sure what gets me more excited, but I will say it's much easier to get excited about a good match I can watch live without waking up at 5am, in english, featuring international players. The BW scene is just never ever going to deliver in that department. So while I have tons of fun watching BW, I do get more excited when news of a good SC2 match is coming. [ Thats personal preference, and part of the reason why people will never agree, I don't like waking up at 5 am more then you, but it is so worth it to me. I personally couldn't care less about ''foreigners'', I care about the best players most of them are Korean(a feat noone can deny), but I have no bias. Also there hasn't been a really good english commentator who can deliver the same excitement as Klazart could for me(Watching SC2 with korean commentary is so much better for me btw). A problem with SCBW is that it is hard to understand for the casual person, the fact that it is commentated in Korean is amazing and fun for us(I mean, have you ever seen guys with so much passion?for a game?). However a new person does not understand korean, and does not really know what is going on in the game. Therefore he will have to delve back into older SCBW games, and that is simply not appeasing for him because the community does not watch it with him. Its personal preference I suppose. Also I find SCBW more appealing to the eye then SC2 for some reason keke(in most departments).(also personal preference). Its not nostalgia,the game still exists, its not because I refuse to accept change, frankly I haven't been here very long on Teamliquid. I came here because of SC2 beta, and realized that the game was not what I was looking for, I started following BW again(I used to watch randomly on youtube, jon747/Violetak). I don't dislike SC2 however: For me , SC2 is a game, SCBW is a sport. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
Then read page 11 and was like " =_= (cj face) sc2 infestation =_=" | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
On May 09 2011 23:55 ShadeR wrote: So read page 1 and was like "ohh yeah dispute is over =]" Then read page 11 and was like " =_= (cj face) sc2 infestation =_=" If you were a rabid fanboy, you too, would infest the infidel's forum. | ||
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