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Johnnybegood2night
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany31 Posts
November 27 2010 12:30 GMT
#1
Hi @all
I'm Zerg player with average APM and skills. I just wanted to know, which Hotkeys do I need to use if I play Zerg, also how high does my APM have to be, to play good iwth Zerg. At the moment I use the Hotkeys 1-3 for units 4-9 for hatches.
Also I could need some tips for gettin better with Zerg.

Thanks and regards
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-29 02:47:08
November 28 2010 19:41 GMT
#2
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.

EDIT: LOL
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 28 2010 19:44 GMT
#3
^this is the brood war forum
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Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-03 19:15:14
November 28 2010 20:24 GMT
#4
Well, the hotkeysetup you have seems pretty good.

What you can work on is redoing your setup mid-game. For example, if the game gets to lategame 1-3 will not be enough to control your army, 1-5 may not even be adequate.
For example, if I'm setting up for a big push with a 200/200 army I will bind pretty much 1-9 and then use savescreenposition to macro.

As for APM, the more the merrier. Around 100 apm should allow you to macro in every situation except from really tense micro battles.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
November 28 2010 21:40 GMT
#5
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


Can i ask you why you use queens? Broodlings is a pretty expensive upgrade...

Also what is this "diamond" ranking?
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iSiN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1075 Posts
November 28 2010 22:03 GMT
#6
On November 29 2010 06:40 TheNessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


Can i ask you why you use queens? Broodlings is a pretty expensive upgrade...

Also what is this "diamond" ranking?

I think this is my new favorite thread on all of team liquid possibly of all time!
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 28 2010 22:07 GMT
#7
On November 29 2010 06:40 TheNessman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


Can i ask you why you use queens? Broodlings is a pretty expensive upgrade...

Also what is this "diamond" ranking?


"D" is short for "diamond", not many people know this
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 23:38:22
November 28 2010 22:14 GMT
#8
On November 29 2010 07:07 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 06:40 TheNessman wrote:
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


Can i ask you why you use queens? Broodlings is a pretty expensive upgrade...

Also what is this "diamond" ranking?


"D" is short for "diamond", not many people know this

So that means "C" is copper! Suddenly this newfangled ranking system is starting to make sense.

EDIT also, how did you get green bubbles on your hatchery ? Is it a new glitch ?
oh darkplasmaball posted below, it probably is just ensnare on hatchery, nothing special, but why would you want to slow down something which doesn't move?

EDIT 2: also, you made a typo, overseer should be overlord, but that's minor... i guess you must really love drop strategy :O
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
November 28 2010 22:40 GMT
#9
Early game :

1 scout drone/army
2 first overlord/army
345 Hatch

Mid/late game :

1234 Army
567 Hatch (only 1 hatch per expo)
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 22:49:30
November 28 2010 22:48 GMT
#10
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


1 is Army? This means your ground army is never larger than 12 units? Do you always attack before the ten-minute mark as a general rule? If this is the case, then I'm confused as to why you need five hotkeys for different bases.

Also, do you prefer attacking with 12 zerglings or a mix of 6 zerglings and 6 hydras?
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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
November 28 2010 22:51 GMT
#11
Around 100 apm should allow you to macro in every situation except from really tense micro battles.

I doubt it. Even proper scout's control requires more APM.
I believe it should be at least 160-200.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
November 28 2010 23:00 GMT
#12
2 DarkPlasmaBall
Nah, he has 2 hotkeys for army actually:
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks

It seems like he prefer muta all-in into GG build.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 28 2010 23:01 GMT
#13
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


I tried this and couldn't get more than one hatchery on 0..I tried selecting them and shift clicking and stuff but nothing worked.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46543 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 23:06:36
November 28 2010 23:06 GMT
#14
On November 29 2010 08:00 Yodo wrote:
2 DarkPlasmaBall
Nah, he has 2 hotkeys for army actually:
Show nested quote +
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks

It seems like he prefer muta all-in into GG build.


Yeah, one for ground army and one for air. Interesting.

And he uses queens to put green bubbles on his hatcheries? Does ensnare work that way?
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
November 28 2010 23:10 GMT
#15
Personal Hotkeys =3
Early Game:
+ Show Spoiler +
1 Lings
2 Nothing yet (Maybe scouting drone)
3 Scouting Overlord
4 Main
5 Nat Exp

Mid Game:
+ Show Spoiler +
1-2 Army...
3 Mutalisk?
4 Main
5 Nat Expo
6 Third Hatch
#6: 3rd hatch could be my 2nd Expo or an aditional htach in my main
I prefer the one in my base cause this are the hatch u use to group ur army not your drones

Late Game
+ Show Spoiler +
1-4 A lot bunch of units !!
5 Main is here now or a hatch is in your main at least
6-8 Hatchzz... I cant really use more hotkeys than that....
I add one more hotkey for army because you can really move a big armies with just 3hotkeys Most of ur untis are lings so....


QUEENS are a terrible idea dont listen to that GenesisX. Clearly he is n00b !! xD
If you have extra minerals make more hactheries

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Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
November 28 2010 23:11 GMT
#16
I tried this and couldn't get more than one hatchery on 0

Did you try to ensnare them? Maybe there is a trick with queen ability and MBS.
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
November 28 2010 23:33 GMT
#17
On November 29 2010 07:51 Yodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
Around 100 apm should allow you to macro in every situation except from really tense micro battles.

I doubt it. Even proper scout's control requires more APM.
I believe it should be at least 160-200.



What I meant was that you could macro pretty well in all situations where you are not performing micro with some unit. I did come across a little "100 apm is all you need" though and and that is ofc not the truth.

Also, posting in epic thread.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
November 28 2010 23:39 GMT
#18
On November 29 2010 08:01 Microlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


I tried this and couldn't get more than one hatchery on 0..I tried selecting them and shift clicking and stuff but nothing worked.

The guy's obviously using some sort of multi-select hack.
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Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
November 28 2010 23:40 GMT
#19
On November 29 2010 08:39 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2010 08:01 Microlisk wrote:
On November 29 2010 04:41 GenesisX wrote:
~2300 Diamond Zerg here.
I personally use:
1 - First scouting drone -> Army
2 - First scouting overlord ->Mutalisks
3 - Defense drone (from pylon blocks and such) -> Overseer
4 - Nothing..
5-9 - Separate base hatches, 5 being main.
0 - All hatches, for pumping out units faster.

You'll notice I don't have a hotkey for queens. I realize this is bad, but since I check my base every 1 or 2 seconds, I can inject anytime I don't see green bubbles on my hatcheries.
Hope this helps.


I tried this and couldn't get more than one hatchery on 0..I tried selecting them and shift clicking and stuff but nothing worked.

The guy's obviously using some sort of multi-select hack.



Probably Oblivian. But good thing Blizzard is sueing Zynaster who made it.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
M!SHA
Profile Joined December 2009
44 Posts
November 28 2010 23:42 GMT
#20
oh god this thread made me ROFL
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