Hi there guys. This is my first topic on TL. I don't play BW or SC2 but I've been following Korean leagues for more than a year so far I like it very much. I'm not much of a writer but I just thought you might be interested in some Proleague statistic I prepared.
As all of you probably know the changes in Proleague format affected how teams play and their results as well, obviously favoring teams with deep lineups rather than teams with sole strong aces.
I've been looking for a handy way to evaluate the balance of each particular team, so here's my method. A little explanation on the team balance coefficient that I used. I analyzed all players on team rosters that appeared on stage at least once during the series (even if they didn't manage to win a single match) based on the number of games they won. In two words this means: 1 win = +1 point, appearance with no wins = 0 points but this zero result affects the team's stats. Then I formed the arrays for each team consisting of the points scored by the players. The formula for my team balance coefficient is as following:
So if all players in a team have won equal number of games each the team balance coefficient is 100% (the team is perfectly balanced). On the other hand, if all wins were brought to the team by a single player the coefficient will be 0% (a team of one player). The more is the coefficient, the more balanced is the team (the smoother is the bar graph representing wins count and the more even are the slices on the pie chart).
Now, the least balanced team in today's Proleague is of course: + Show Spoiler +
I would be glad to see your comments on this. If you liked my analysis I could do it after future rounds. The more data, the more accurate are the stats.
Cool topic, although I didn't need a formula to know which team is the most imbalanced. lol Currently team balance does not directly correspond to the team's overall performance but will that change as the season progresses?
I appreciate the effort you put I think your formula is not relevant
We are actually interested in the depth of the team, which team has at least 3 decent players, including an ace.
A team with 3 players with a very high winrate (including ace matches) and 3 players who suck is a lot better than a team with 7 players who suck equally. But your formula would say the contrary.
STX got a very good score with your formula because they used 11 different players, and have an overall Diff = 0
And SKT got a very mediocre score just because Bisu raped the shit out of everyone and made the win / loss record unbalanced ? I mean do you realize that if Bisu had lost two games, the team would have got a better score with a worse ace player ? It doesn't make any sense. A balanced team is a team with a good ace player (it doesn't mean a good ace player makes a team good, Oz anyone ?)
Oh and my examples have nothing to do with my T1 icon I promise, they were just appropriate examples of the flaws of your formula
And very nice graphics btw !!
edit : typo and yay 1337 posts
edit 2 : wait, a team who would have lost the 4 matches 0-4 using the same 4 players would have got a 100% right ? When we use the word balanced for a team it's related to its depth. According to your formula, a team composed of 4 awful players would be the deepest team of the proleague ? wtf.
Those are some ridiculously good looking graphs. However I don't think you have enough data yet, I would love to see what these would look like after a full round has been completed. Good work anyway!
On October 27 2010 19:20 endy wrote: I mean do you realize that if Bisu had lost two games, the team would have got a better score with a worse ace player ? It doesn't make any sense. A balanced team is a team with a good ace player (it doesn't mean a good ace player makes a team good, Oz anyone ?)
You're right, but I must emphasize that my balance rating isn't supposed to be related to team's performance. Theoretically it's possible to have a team with 10-20% balance ratio and it will rape any other team. The coefficient is just depicting the distribution of efforts between the players.
On October 27 2010 19:20 endy wrote: edit 2 : wait, a team who would have lost the 4 matches 0-4 using the same 4 players would have got a 100% right ? When we use the word balanced for a team it's related to its depth. According to your formula, a team composed of 4 awful players would be the deepest team of the proleague ? wtf.
Haha, luckily my formula doesn't work with zero wins (it results in division by zero). Edit: But I think I should consider adding some correction so that the formula will also depict the absolute strengths of the players.
On October 27 2010 19:20 endy wrote: I mean do you realize that if Bisu had lost two games, the team would have got a better score with a worse ace player ? It doesn't make any sense. A balanced team is a team with a good ace player (it doesn't mean a good ace player makes a team good, Oz anyone ?)
You're right, but I must emphasize that my balance rating isn't supposed to be related to team's performance. Theoretically it's possible to have a team with 10-20% balance ratio and it will rape any other team. The coefficient is just depicting the distribution of efforts between the players.
Yes, but if that was your purpose, we need a lot more data to obtain relevant results. Leta and Really are making a lot of efforts, believe me.
Also, read my edit2, which is an even bigger flaw in your formula. edit : you saw my edit, I know it doesnt work with 0 wins, but that's mathematically the results you obtain (using the limits, amirite ?)
I'm not saying this just because I harshly criticized your results, I sincerely find your graphics awesome. I'd love to see you designing the Proleague Round 1recaps (no offense at the current TL graphics team :D)
Is it possible to fuse this with team ''strenght'' to find out which teams have the highest amount of good-to-very-good playesrs. thus more likely to win in best of seven format?
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