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slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
October 28 2010 21:28 GMT
#61
I really like what you've done here, and I definitely would like to see more of it later on in the season when there is more data.

Although this doesn't show who's better or worse, it is interesting to see what team is balanced/imbalanced vs results
jaedong imba
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
October 28 2010 21:39 GMT
#62
i found lots of things to be really funny
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3099 Posts
October 28 2010 21:42 GMT
#63
This is cool, but it doesn't really say all that much at this point; I'd be interested in seeing the results later, when there's more data to work with.

Cool stuff, though.
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Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
November 04 2010 19:00 GMT
#64
This is interesting stuff. I think the "balance" that is trying to be calculated here is how evenly are the players pulling their weight for the team. Now it doesn't necessarily reflect that some players are better than others in the grand scheme but rather it reflects how they are doing now this particular round (i.e. Fantasy slumping. So much internal rage.) These numbers will be dependent on whether players dominate or fall into slumps and the length of time these periods occur. So this isn't exactly a predictor for things to come but it's interesting work nonetheless.

Thanks Tasou for the work.
ramen-
Profile Joined September 2009
90 Posts
November 04 2010 19:04 GMT
#65
Awesome, if starcraft is supposed to be a sport, then we need more stats, even if they're not obviously useful
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 04 2010 20:23 GMT
#66
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 04 2010 20:43 GMT
#67
Very very sexy, some additional stats are always welcome, indeed its a hell of entertainment.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 04 2010 22:58 GMT
#68
I think this is the first time I've ever said...Oz imba!!
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Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
November 05 2010 01:33 GMT
#69
hmmmmmm.. well STX isn't doing too well yet.
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Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 02:08:04
November 05 2010 02:06 GMT
#70
Coolio graphs. Tho I don't think this is that relevant without including several other variables. It would be cool to see some analysis regarding which team is best suited to win in the quarter finals, or which 4 players are most likely to win the MSL/OSL based on their records and the upcoming match-ups.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
November 05 2010 03:51 GMT
#71
This thread could be more awesome if you updated it every round, giving both per-round statistics and cumulative (overall) statistics.
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ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 05:26:21
November 05 2010 05:25 GMT
#72
It's a cool graph, although there are flaws. MBC doesn't seem no where near as balanced when you consider that it's literally only those six (Sea/Light/Hyun/Saint/Jaehoon/Tyson) that actually ever play.

Still, good work. These graphs are definitely interesting reads
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_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 05 2010 06:28 GMT
#73
What is "stdev"? I didn't find it anywhere in ur post.

But anyway, the idea is COOL. \m/_
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
November 05 2010 06:46 GMT
#74
Sexy charts, will you update them as the season goes? Poor KHAN
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 05 2010 06:53 GMT
#75
You mentioned what this graph shows wrong, its supposed to show how well the wins that the team has is balanced out between the player it is using.

Its not about depth, but about variance in play that would make high on the list.
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 05 2010 10:14 GMT
#76
Kt's become a much more well-rounded team these days. Scary.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
November 05 2010 10:53 GMT
#77
Bisu is 5-0? Fantasy is 1-3? Waaa, so much things I've missed.

I remember it is the other way round...
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
November 05 2010 10:55 GMT
#78
Jangbi? 0-4 o.O ><
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
stilz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States13 Posts
November 12 2010 16:51 GMT
#79
Great work! Thanks for your contribution.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
November 12 2010 16:56 GMT
#80
Great graphs! That was an interesting read. But def remake these after season 2
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